but the needle has steadily been moving in great part due to the Mueller Report. There's a clear timeline to follow.This won't move the needle at all.
It will be waved away as simply an indicted individual looking for a plea and nothing he says will be seen as having value.
We've already done this dance during the Mueller investigation. Funny enough, all the "Got ems!" in this thread remind me of those times. And we all know how that turned out.
This won't move the needle at all.
It will be waved away as simply an indicted individual looking for a plea and nothing he says will be seen as having value.
We've already done this dance during the Mueller investigation. Funny enough, all the "Got ems!" in this thread remind me of those times. And we all know how that turned out.
This won't move the needle at all.
It will be waved away as simply an indicted individual looking for a plea and nothing he says will be seen as having value.
We've already done this dance during the Mueller investigation. Funny enough, all the "Got ems!" in this thread remind me of those times. And we all know how that turned out.
Trump might be bulletproof sure but this will at least bring down Nunes (like Manafort, Cohen, Stone, etc. before him) if Parnas brings verifiable communications between himself and Nunes.
thisThe Republican chair of the intelligence committee is corrupt. In a sane world it would destroy the party and the administration.
With multiple convictions? Heck, Roger Stone was found guilty just last week.This won't move the needle at all.
It will be waved away as simply an indicted individual looking for a plea and nothing he says will be seen as having value.
We've already done this dance during the Mueller investigation. Funny enough, all the "Got ems!" in this thread remind me of those times. And we all know how that turned out.
So tired of reading that nothing's being done. Like...where are you? Space? LolWith multiple convictions? Heck, Roger Stone was found guilty just last week.
Yes. But if you destroy one big party, there would only be one big party left. That's a real problem. In comparison to that, we have almost too many parties in Germany. If one dies, there are dozens of alternatives you can vote.The Republican chair of the intelligence committee is corrupt. In a sane world it would destroy the party and the administration.
Link?Like 6 peopl have been convicted directly related to Trump with potential 3-4 more.
We'll see if Parnas has the juice though. I see Nunes has lawyered up which means he definitely did it.
State department actually released documents just 10 mins ago and yeah... they were all in on it (State department I mean with Guiliani).
With multiple convictions? Heck, Roger Stone was found guilty just last week.
Patience, friend.A bunch of cronies. How are Trump, McConnell, Graham, Ryan, etc... doing?
Of that list only Trump has been accused of blatant crimes, and Mueller made it clear he thought the remedy was with Congress - which it is and which we're currently witnessing. Nunes doesn't have the same protections the president does.A bunch of cronies. How are Trump, McConnell, Graham, Ryan, etc... doing?
He's just mimicking senpai.Link?
Also why is Nunes such a bitch when it comes to him getting accused of something? Its he always shitting on Dems and Schiff when he gets the chance? I mean he is accusing the Dems of trying to meddle in 2016 election with Ukraine. Wow throw dirt but cries like a bitch when someone does the same. The difference is that it's likely true that he has committed a crime.
there is speech or debate clause immunity for congress members which might give some cover. Though I'm not actually sure what crime people think Nunes is guilty of hereOf that list only Trump has been accused of blatant crimes, and Mueller made it clear he thought the remedy was with Congress - which it is and which we're currently witnessing. Nunes doesn't have the same protections the president does.
I'd assume campaign finance violations at the least. Though it's weird since in this case he's trying to help somebody else win so I'm not sure how that'd apply.and recall the other day Kash Patel, the former Nunes/current NSC staffer implicated in all this, sued Politico (using devin's Cow Lawyer) over a different Ukraine story. The party of Free Speech sure as hell likes filing bullshit lawsuits to discourage speech.
there is speech or debate clause immunity for congress members which might give some cover. Though I'm not actually sure what crime people think Nunes is guilty of here
Busy spreading defeatism.So tired of reading that nothing's being done. Like...where are you? Space? Lol
If the GOP disintegrated, the Dems probably would split in a future election and remnants of the GOP would eventually form another Conservative party.Yes. But if you destroy one big party, there would only be one big party left. That's a real problem. In comparison to that, we have almost too many parties in Germany. If one dies, there are dozens of alternatives you can vote.
Yes. But if you destroy one big party, there would only be one big party left. That's a real problem. In comparison to that, we have almost too many parties in Germany. If one dies, there are dozens of alternatives you can vote.
If the GOP disintegrated, the Dems probably would split in a future election and remnants of the GOP would eventually form another Conservative party.
But that wouldn't be much different, right? Would still be the old GOP with a new name in the end.There will always, eventually be a second party.
While the Democratic-Republicans (now known as the Democratic Party) have been around since the time of the founding fathers, and have survived by changing their platform to reflect the times, a second party does always pop up, eventually. The longest gap we've had with one party was thirty years, and that was at a time when the Northern and Southern branches of the Democratic Party were split into essentially two separate parties over the issue of slavery. There was a nine year gap between the end of the Federalists and the beginning of the Whigs, and a thirty year gap between the end of the Whigs and the beginning of the Republicans.
In a scenario where the Republican Party becomes non-viable, there are two likely scenarios: Either Republican politicians jump ship to a smaller conservative party to rebrand, or moderate Republicans change party affiliations, leading to a splinter between the moderate and progressive wings of the Democratic Party. Either way, a First-Past-the-Post system guarantees that we will always eventually return to a state of having two (and only two) viable parties on a national scale.
You realize that the left has been making major gains around the country for the past couple of years, right? All of this information is hurting Republicans pretty tremendously. Don't let the loud Trump base convince you that they're winning. They are not.Republicans have succesfully gridlocked the whole legal system it seems. I have no faith that anything will come of this, every single republican is lock step in line and they seem to be bulletproof to laws at this point. It feels pretty dire right now.
But that wouldn't be much different, right? Would still be the old GOP with a new name in the end.
Nah, dem fracturing would just lead con voters to band together forcing anyone to the left of them to never win an election again barring some major changes to how our electoral system works.Depends on which path is taken. If the ex-GOP hijack another conservative party, yeah.
If the Democratic Party fractures, even with moderate Republicans jumping ship, it would still move the overall discourse leftward, making someone like Biden be what would be considered Right Wing, instead of the Trumpites we have now.
Seems like an apt time to repost this gem from John Oliver about SLAPP Suits.
Yes. But if you destroy one big party, there would only be one big party left.
"Nothing will happen" is a fucking disease and fuck every poster who loves to say it or the paraphrasing du jour. You are a cancer on the future of society. Outcomes are more complicated than "removal by the Senate" and it's really, really fucking important than all this is happening. Eat turds, worthless humans. You are human scum and trash. You are lacking in value, at least as far as your role in the problematic landscape of social media. We are better than this.
"Nothing will happen" is a fucking disease and fuck every poster who loves to say it or the paraphrasing du jour. You are a cancer on the future of society. Outcomes are more complicated than "removal by the Senate" and it's really, really fucking important than all this is happening. Eat turds, worthless humans. You are human scum and trash. You are lacking in value, at least as far as your role in the problematic landscape of social media. We are better than this.
"Nothing will happen" is a fucking disease and fuck every poster who loves to say it or the paraphrasing du jour. You are a cancer on the future of society. Outcomes are more complicated than "removal by the Senate" and it's really, really fucking important than all this is happening. Eat turds, worthless humans. You are human scum and trash. You are lacking in value, at least as far as your role in the problematic landscape of social media. We are better than this.