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Github fired a Jewish employee for (rightfully) claiming there were Nazis at the Capitol riot [offered their job back and the head of HR is resigning]

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Admiral Woofington

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Not a good look, but I'm sure Microsoft's PR will be in on this soon after. Similar to when there was a bit of a shitstorm brewing with their streaming service
 
brawndolicious

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Either they must have some sort of zero tolerance policy or the supervisor wanted to fire him for a while. That's really fast to fire somebody.
 
brawndolicious

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PersonAndStuff said:
Or the boss was a sympathizer.
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Possibly but terminating somebody at a big company is rarely an instant thing unless you actually committed a crime or something. They require a gradual ramp up with documentation on warnings and write-ups just in case they get sued by the former employee.

I'm not saying the boss was a good or bad person, but that to me it seems most likely thst either this guy was on the verge of being fired or they have a draconian policy regarding political talk in the slack channel.

Also, it's funny that they use slack.
 
krazen

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I think my favorite part of this apocalypse is that conservatives swear there's like no bleedover to nazi's the klan, etc to their movement and are shocked when confronted with them.

She's not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I remember someone put up a Bari Weiss rant about the alt-right deplatforming this weekend and she called Parler 'Bright Red' on the political spectrum.

Which is like, I guess thats a soft admittance that you're down with the chuds, but an odd separation since I guess the rampant 'kill the dems and the minorities' talk on the platform is the same message...but they are just a bit more passionate since traditional conservatives are just plain red, lol.

Gonna have a wild Github take; you take any Trump rally of a decent size and yes, there will be nazi's there.
 
riotous

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Fair to cite their ownership but GitHub operates as a separate ~1500 person company and Microsoft is not involved in the day-to-day ops.

GitHub has their own HR / hiring / firing practices and MS isn't involved.

Like I said fair to cite their ownership as it will cause them to put pressure on GitHub, but this didn't involve Microsoft's policies. MS doesn't operate on Slack for instance for obvious reasons. This was a GitHub internal thing.. the CEO was involved in the message exchange since they operate more like a medium sized company.
 

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Removed og comment aimed at wrong company

riotous said:
Fair to cite their ownership but GitHub operates as a separate ~1500 person company and Microsoft is not involved in the day-to-day ops.

GitHub has their own HR / hiring / firing practices and MS isn't involved.

Like I said fair to cite their ownership as it will cause them to put pressure on GitHub, but this didn't involve Microsoft's policies. MS doesn't operate on Slack for instance for obvious reasons. This was a GitHub internal thing.. the CEO was involved in the message exchange since they operate more like a medium sized company.
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DIdn't know.
 
Fleck0

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President Biden even compared the seditionists to Nazis, not a good look for github at all.
 
Garrett 2U

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Looks like 200 employees signed a letter asking for an investigation, which the CEO promised will happen.
 
RexNovis

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Even Microsoft doesn't wanna use Teams...

but yea this is unacceptable. Is there some official process that the person fired can go through to dispute this decision? Surely there is for a company the size of MS
 
T0kenAussie

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Just to clarify the title even though Microsoft owns GitHub it's not Microsoft run. GitHub is autonomous

the Microsoft owned bit of the thread title is redundant
 
Morrigan

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T0kenAussie said:
Just to clarify the title even though Microsoft owns GitHub it's not Microsoft run. GitHub is autonomous

the Microsoft owned bit of the thread title is redundant
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Yeah, I've removed it from the thread title. Otherwise people are focusing too much on the MS part where Github's practices should be the focus of scrunity here.

John Kowalski said:
They use Slack on GitHub? Not Teams?
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That's just my speculation but Github no doubt used Slack long before their acquisition, and saw no reason to migrate after the acquisition. Especially if they're still largely autonomous in how they operate.
 
Joni

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Full article states that
  • The post evolved into a wide discussion, with people picking camps
  • Hr/Manager claimed 'patterns of behavior' but he didn't receive written confirmation.
  • Both COO and CEO reacted that it would be investigated.
 
julia crawford

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Morrigan said:
That's just my speculation but Github no doubt used Slack long before their acquisition, and saw no reason to migrate after the acquisition. Especially if they're still largely autonomous in how they operate.
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Yeah that's probably the case. Losing all those messages to move to another service would probably kill years of project critical conversations.

I just like thinking... they probably have MS people on some channels. MS people using a direct competitor to talk with "their own" is kinda funny,
 
Cyclonesweep

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Joni said:
Full article states that
  • The post evolved into a wide discussion, with people picking camps
  • Hr/Manager claimed 'patterns of behavior' but he didn't receive written confirmation.
  • Both COO and CEO reacted that it would be investigated.
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So it's 1 of 2 things.

Guy was on the verge of being fired for various things, and this was somehow a last straw. (I have a guy at work who uses work email to mass send people political shit all the time and has gotten warned about it as it's not appropriate use of work communications. Even if people agree with him)

Or

The manager is a Trumper
 
take_marsh

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I'd sure like to see that whole chat log. I particularly want to see the immediate counter-attack. "Divisive rhetoric" is bullshit. Camp Auschwitz t-shirt guy says hi.
 
taco543

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definitely no nazis that I see...
 
hateradio

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I just read about the Alphabet Union.

Tech really needs more radical/logical voices, because all these companies are doing is pretending that the world's problems can be "solved" by services that these very companies are selling. While at the same time, they're disintegrating and destroying democracy.


Sad that the guy said that he didn't want to continue to work in tech because of how toxic it is.


It's honestly the reason why I don't want to work at the bigger companies. Fuck them.

However, even small startups have problems.
 
krazen

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Damn, that statement was relatively benign too, if they popped off at something so slight..damn what kind of other fuckboy bigoted shit must have been happening behind the scenes?
 
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