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Giant Bomb |OT 13| I Want To Turn Into A Wolf And Shloot
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Huh, I think I'm at the final boss of Sekiro now.
I have still been enjoying it, but also I think this game has big issues. It feels like a flanderisation of From Software's previous games in many ways. Despite being the most radical shift FromSoft has done, a lot of it feels like going through the motions. Some boss encounters also feel designed for a Souls game and not Sekiro (Demon of Hatred) - which is a big problem given the different balances of the system.
I have still been enjoying it, but also I think this game has big issues. It feels like a flanderisation of From Software's previous games in many ways. Despite being the most radical shift FromSoft has done, a lot of it feels like going through the motions. Some boss encounters also feel designed for a Souls game and not Sekiro (Demon of Hatred) - which is a big problem given the different balances of the system.
The EU had highs that will probably never be reached again in the franchise but when it got bad it got bad.
He won't. I'm not saying that he should or shouldn't but he won't.
Which honestly is a shame because he's probably one of like three people in mainstream gaming press who would be in a position to and actually get a semi useful answer but yeah
I think you've basically hit the nail on the head on what's not working about it for me. The combat system they've designed is really good for fighting certain types of enemies but feels terrible for others, but leaning into that would mean there wouldn't really be variety. Which is an issue it already kind of feels like it's suffering from.
It does have the most fun exploration and level design in a FS game since Dark Souls 1 for me, but the bosses are wildly inconsistent. I want to admire this game more because when it's good it's From Software operating at their peak... but it's not always that.
My only real issue with Sekiro is they have all these systems that don't get much use. I almost think the game would have been better without the talent trees.
On the other hand:
On the other hand:
That ape grabbing the sword and his head for round 2 was classic From Soft.
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the shades and chainmail coif the main character wears makes them very interesting
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I listened to that Waypoint podcast on difficulty and Sekiro, and while I agree with everything they said about how customisable difficulty and accessibility are great trends that should be the standard throughout gaming, I also think it's great that there is at least 1 triple A developer that just says fuck it, and makes the exact game they want to make with no compromise.
I could only buy into the idea that From's approach is A Problem if it was a growing trend that started to limit the audience of gaming as a whole.
Anyway, this conversation has been done to death at this point.
Here is my one line review of Sekiro:
It's really good, but I will be disappointed in 2019 if it ends up being my GOTY (which it is currently).
I could only buy into the idea that From's approach is A Problem if it was a growing trend that started to limit the audience of gaming as a whole.
Anyway, this conversation has been done to death at this point.
Here is my one line review of Sekiro:
It's really good, but I will be disappointed in 2019 if it ends up being my GOTY (which it is currently).
Hooked up my PS3 to play through MGS2 HD, I can't believe they haven't released a PS4 port of this yet
I actually watched that trailer some time ago and it's hilarious to compare it to the game nowadays
giant bomb should do that kinda of stuff
looking back at old game demonstrations and talk over them
looking back at old game demonstrations and talk over them
Yeah but they would just say "I think that's still in the game right? Yeah, that's in there" and they would be wrong every single time
The game really isn't that hard, you just have to be constantly aggressive and it works 90% of the time.
That's kinda the thing, it's funny that the conversation sprung up on the from game where they arguably made quite a few things easier than previous games.
Whether or not the game is hard is relative to every individual. The no compromise is what I think is the interesting part, and what the discussion is really about.
I can't help but think a lot of these criticisms of Sekiro are unintentionally falling into the same elitist "git gud" mentality as those being reactionary about them being more accessible. The games are pretty straightforward and forgiving once you give over to their unique logic. Honestly think anyone can beat the likes of Dark Souls no matter how much they've played games in the past. Feel like Sekiro's reputation of being even more difficult than those just comes out of it being a slight reshaping of the formula that people aren't used to too.
Out of the 4 From Software titles I've played I feel Dark Souls 2 is the only one that has some bullshit contrived difficulty. That game is like "how can we be more challenging? idk 10 guys in a thin corridor that run at you with exploding barrels"
Out of the 4 From Software titles I've played I feel Dark Souls 2 is the only one that has some bullshit contrived difficulty. That game is like "how can we be more challenging? idk 10 guys in a thin corridor that run at you with exploding barrels"
Sekiro only allows for a thin variety of playstyles that some people will never get used to. At some point you just need to learn patterns and react to them. So this current debate didn't really come unexpected.
Like, the way Vinny plays DkS surprised me quite a few times, it's just totally different than me. That's just not possible here.
Look at Captain Accurately Predicts the Future over here
This is quixotic to me. The relative difficulty is the compromise. This same game studio produced a bunch of games where you could just ask a bunch of people to kill the boss for you and that was okay.
The compromise...the vision is broken by the team members, the publishers, the playtesters, the whosawhatsits. It is something marred by every step of the creative process in the modern world. Nothing is pure. Nothing by a large publisher is truly honest.
listening to waypwnt and wow @ R** casually bragging about his p*r*t*d cowbop beboy soundtracks and offering to share them with P******
We're talking about different things here. Difficulty is relative to the individual. Some people will find it impossible to finish Sekiro and there is no compromise for them. They just don't get to finish the game.
I don't think that is a bad thing and some people do. That's what the conversation is about.
look there has to be some cultural recognition that a lot of us were dirty pirates when we were younger and that influenced a lot of our attitudes to media. however there also has to be the cultural recognition that restera is a
Demon's souls is probably one of the most pure 0 compromise games out there. Like a lot of the things you don't put in there if you're designing something to appeal to a wide demographic.
And look at the influence it went on to have on the gaming landscape.
And look at the influence it went on to have on the gaming landscape.
Waypoint did what
Woooooow I cant believe that the most moral website advocated for piracy
haha he reminds me of my grandpa, he would always tell the same stories over and over again
but at least Grandpa would always start with "I may have said this before..."
To be fair, Dan often introduces his stories like this as well.
Most of the staff is guilty of this to some degree, Dan just seems to derail other conversations the most so it's more obvious.
I loaded up the witness and WOW I forgot how unsettling and sinister this game's atmosphere is to me!!
It is such a great game, I wish it was more replayable. I have tried multiple times to go back but due to it being so puzzle focused I just drop out eventually
She's a comedian, she should approve of improv. And she's met several wrestlers at this point, why she gotta be hostile.
And if she's serious is she saying "Wrestling is bad because of the massive amount of shitty stuff that it's associated with" or "Wrestling is bad because it's stupid"?
We know its the former. Just Abby has done alot of "wow you like X you're terrible!!!" In the past that was obviously facetious.
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