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GI.Biz: Red Dead Redemption 2 maybe sold around 408k units on the epic games store in its first month according to superdata
- Thread starter patapon
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My first read is that number seems pretty decent considering how long it's been available on consoles. People are interpreting it as a failure though?
Probably helps but I'm guessing this is more of a case that shows the strength of long tail sales on Steam with discounted prices. Top seller is monster hunter world and that is half the price of rdr2.
It probably didn't set up the world on fire due to R* Launcher's pre order bonuses and .... inevitability
How accurate is Playtracker?
So more like 3m sales in total on PC across all stores so far?
So they *only* got $20 million from EGS sales (and $100M on PC overall) in one month, after they've already recoup'd all of their investments a year ago?
Shudder. /s
Shudder. /s
EGS, RSL and Stadia? Well I wanted it on Steam and would've jumped in day 1, but the hype died during the wait combined with the performance talk. I almost bought it on the Stadia launch but it didn't run at 60fps.
Isn't that more like $180 million? $60 per copy, times 3 million?
thats a difficult number to assume, between regional prices, all the different editions.
It does not track EGS. It tracks data from Xbox Game Bar, which for RDR2 only has two versions, Steam and RGL+EGS combined.
So EGS number is the one from OP.
(It would track EGS numbers only for exclusives or exclusives + win10 I believe)
Then where does it gets it number for EGS only from, when EGS and RGL are combined?
TW3 had this exact discount many times on steam before, and its concurrent player number havent surged this high since the last expansion release. Obviously the show has renewed interest in the games, combined with the sales.
I love Steam and agree with your point about needing so many different launchers. However I don't get locking yourself to one platform over others. Freedom of choice is ultimately one of the fundamental perks of gaming on PC.
Of course you're free to choose to exclusively use Steam, but it just seems a bit odd. I've installed and used EGS for the first time this week and am simply saving too much money to ignore, compared to if I had bought the same games on Steam/elsewhere.
The user you are quoting, specifically said "until something better". And I'd agree with the sentiment. I've tried everything including EGS, and will remain open to all trusted and useful options providing value. EGS is by far not that for me right now, and seemingly extremely unlikely to be so for the long term at this rate. Meanwhile Steam is absolutely the king right now, and continuously provides reasons to use it, even via third party stores.
That is not "lock in" - that's a savvy customer exercising their free choice in the face of competition, dependant on the value users are getting.
Right now, I rather not buy games, than buy from and use EGS, following my experience with the store. That speaks volumes - that cheaper prices is not enough to risk having a game I can't refund easily, isn't supporting basic features I need, seemingly isn't even looking to improve customer experience etc etc
Lots of people feel the same and it is an entirely justifiable position.
it's already got a 20% discount on steam. i never expected it to sell as well as GTA V but i was surprised to see it at that price on Steam just a couple weeks after it launched there.
the game definitely had a lot of problems. i kept getting huge frame drops (15-20fps) and constant stuttering that made it unplayable for me. this was with every setting at the lowest. my PC has a 9900K running at 5.0Ghz, 32GB RAM, and an RTX 2080 so there is no excuse for this kind of performance.
I'm pretty suprised it sold that many. What incentive was there to buy off EGS instead of RGL or a key seller?
They were being a bit cheeky releasing a year old game at full price. I bet they were hoping for some GTAV type success, and obviously they wouldn't be discounting it if it turned out like that, but I doubt they're too cut up by the numbers it's doing on pc. Discounting it now adjusts the price closer to what it probably should have launched at on pc but makes it look like a bargain to anyone who was on the fence.
They were being a bit cheeky releasing a year old game at full price. I bet they were hoping for some GTAV type success, and obviously they wouldn't be discounting it if it turned out like that, but I doubt they're too cut up by the numbers it's doing on pc. Discounting it now adjusts the price closer to what it probably should have launched at on pc but makes it look like a bargain to anyone who was on the fence.
All completely fair. Steam is my favourite store by a substantial amount and like I said, PC offering freedom of choice does include the choice to exclusively use Steam. It's just something you see around the internet a lot (to varying degrees of passion verging on fanboyism) that I think is still worth questioning. Digital purchasing choice is something we have on PC that other platforms don't, so it's interesting to see why people don't.
All these poor quality download managers like Origin, UPlay+, Battlenet, EGS, etc are the ones restricting freedom of choice on PC, not Steam. Valve doesn't care if Rainbow Six Siege is also available on UPlay. It's primarily THE PUBLISHERS restricting choice, and more recently Epic. Because they'd rather have that last 30% to themselves than do anything to improve overall quality of the platform.
You're only "saving money" on EGS if you were going to buy these free games otherwise. I'm not telling you not to get your free games if you actually want them. But Epic uses these games to inflate their install base, and convince publishers that they're not taking such a big risk keeping their games off Steam. Rather than making a desirable platform with a superior user experience, Epic is simply buying an install base to solidify their foothold as a PC distribution outlet. I don't want anything to do with it.
Also, this is not just a question of where you buy and download games. Steam is a platform. It has the kinds of unifying features players and developers expect on modern consoles: party invites, achievements, streaming, controller API, etc. The splintering of PC into lots of different pseudo-platforms like Origin seriously limit not just the user experience but the actual quality of games. We can debate whether Valve is the right player to "lead" the platform, but PC games really should be implementing one API so that games behave consistently. It would be ridiculous if your Playstation had 10 different accounts with different achievement lists, friends lists, inconsistent controller support, party invites only work between games from the same publisher, etc. But PC gamers are forced to accept it so that EA can pocket more revenue.
Major publishers + Epic are dragging PC gaming back to the pre-Xbox360 user experience. Valve is trying to make PC gaming what it historically has been: the most advanced platform.
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Very good number if true. Probably means that Epic's strategy is paying off, and a large amount of people are using Epic as a standard store/launcher.
Rockstar gets 100% of the profits by selling it on their own launcher.
1. Regional pricing
2. The Rockstar Launcher doesn't even have an actual store in some regions last I checked
Should I as a consumer care about how much money huge corporations get? I'd rather have good launchers with unified libraries. Too many launchers is about to ruin PC gaming more than anything. I would prefer to not fuel that even more.
RDR2 had more than 50K current players on Steam today by the way.
On second glance, that's actually really impressive. Why did anybody buy it on EGS? There was absolutely no incentive to buy it anywhere but from Rockstar's own launcher.
Regardless of where you buy it, you have to boot up Rockstar's launcher.
But competition is good and it will elevate Steam over time. And, if you want to stick with Steam only, it's alright. I'm not a fan of publisher-related launchers but I understand that it's preferable for a business to make profit... That way, you get more games to play.
I still get stuff like controller support, family sharing, achievements, remote play, in home streaming, and so on.
Competition is usually good, but when it comes to launchers on PC it hasn't been good at all.
I imagine sales on all fronts would have been better if they had polished the port a bit more.
If the consumer doesn't have a choice, can it really be called competition?
Tim Sweeney be like:
"We know that our store is garbage, and that people won't be using it. Let's remove the ability to choose."
Yay, competition is good.
Sadly, this exclusivity garbage is a big part of the videogame industry as a whole now.
It's still better than a monopoly.
I'm not saying I like EGS' business practices (or is it Rockstar?) but still, there was a choice. PS4, XB1, Rockstar's launcher, EGS and Stadia. Or, not buying the product.
I'm still wondering where the actual benefits due to this "competition" are.