Ampere: PS5 and Xbox Series X|S sales in line with, not ahead of, previous gen
A new report suggests supply constraints have prevented the next-generation PlayStation and Xbox consoles from signific…
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[GI.biz] Ampere: PS5 and Xbox Series X|S sales in line with, not ahead of, previous gen (Xbox at 2.8m, PS5 at 4.2m sold-through)
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That's a weird statement to make. I assume MS is selling everything they are making and they cannot increase production.
Eh. Sales definitely wouldn't be "in line" with previous gen if they managed to manufacture units without covid basically killing the supply chain
Yeah, this was my thought as well. But this would also indicate that Sony has managed to manufacture 1.4 million more units more than Microsoft which seems like a large gap?
Some interesting takeaways there. The production and stock issues are 100% hampering the potential performance of these systems, so this shouldn't be concerning. I'm sure if they were able to manufacture a couple million more units each these past few months then those would have sold out as well. The article acknowledges this as a big factor too, for anyone who doesn't bother read anything but the title.
Yeah lol
It is know that Microsoft started manufacturing late, because of some RDNA2 thing.
It is very like that this is referring to Ampere's expectations and forecasts rather than like, in general expectations or something.
I agree, Microsoft have been clear everything is selling but they are having supply issues. Great start for both consoles to sell every unit delivered to retail.
Prob would be double or so. Both would of course def be significantly higher if production wasn't an issue.
Yeah, wish that was more specific - the lack of ability to produce more consoles may be seen as disappointing, sure but the actual sales tell us little at this moment in time than how many have shipped. Later in the year it will be clearer where demand and sales fall but as for right now it is impressive SIE are able to keep pace with PS4 despite the pandemic and production not keeping up. It is clear Xbox S|X mass production started later and hence lagging behind on stock.
think we'll be in for another long generation considering the multi-year dampener due to covid, increasing dev time and costs, much better hardware etc?
Sony got into production sooner. Not to say PS5 isn't more popular, street price for it is about 100-200 more.
That's what I was thinking. I mean, PS5 would have still outsold it if both consoles were available to everyone but I'm sure the Xbox would have at least been equal to the Xone
Xbox will always be seen with more scrutiny. Literally the only reason it isn't above XB1 is because of a delayed production, and it's only down by a little bit.
I keep saying imagine if there was no pandemic.....
I agree. Context matters.
They started making them later than Sony...for whatever reason. But revealed specs first, price first. Once upon a time it seemed MS was waaay more ready than Sony for next gen.
Phil and Co. said they started later waiting for AMD tech that launched this year....while Sony, Cerny launched the PS4 Pro with AMD tech that didnt hit the market until the following year?
Something doesnt add up.
I agree. Context matters.
They started making them later than Sony...for whatever reason. But revealed specs first, price first. Once upon a time it seemed MS was waaay more ready than Sony for next gen.
Phil and Co. said they started later waiting for AMD tech that launched this year....while Sony, Cerny launched the PS4 Pro with AMD tech that didnt hit the market until the following year?
Something doesnt add up.
" Meanwhile, PS5 has matched the performance of PS4, which shifted 4.2 million units in its first few months after launching in November 2013."
But Sony confirmed 4,5 million units until December 31. By this data, there should be 300K units sitting on shelves and nothing sold at all in January? Not entirely convinced by these calculations.
But Sony confirmed 4,5 million units until December 31. By this data, there should be 300K units sitting on shelves and nothing sold at all in January? Not entirely convinced by these calculations.
Yeah the context is Xbox production was delayed.
They practically sold the same amount with a delayed production. On time, it would have passed XB1. Neither console maker can get the necessary production to surpass last gen.
The comparison is launch year, so 2013 for PS4 and 2020 for PS5
I cannot imagine they're actually -happy- about that. At the very least if they knew supply was going to be this awful they both could have just charged $599 for the console. PS5 street price being double what they were charging means they just left a lot of money on the table.
Yep. It's amazing how they just gloss over the single biggest factor like it's not the main issue.
It wouldn't matter anyway, because the chip is larger so the yields would've tracked behind regardless. Though the S's chip might've balanced things a bit, but then you also get into allocation and prioritizing SKUs, etcetera etecetera...
All in all, it's actually impressive they managed producing this much considering how much COVID impacted things.
Sadly things will take a while to improve. But at least with consoles when stock at retailers come in, they'll sell them for MSRP (or if they're scummy they'll bundle them), PC parts on the other hand are in a crazy state. Finding a GPU has been impossible. 3070s priced the same as 3090s...
Xbox waited untl they had RDNA 2 tech for the series X/S available.
despite lower supply, it sells for much lower prices from scalpers than the PS5 so the potential sales ceiling is clearly lower
This is a dumb article. The only thing disappointing about the launch numbers is that they can not make them fast enough. Both consoles are completely sold out and probably will be for the foreseeable future.
Sony started earlier since Microsoft was waiting for tech to finalize for longer. My assumption is that PS5 is also projected to sell more units in its initial months than the Xbox is, so they probably have a higher rate of production, on top of the early start date.
something is making me think Sony would be ok with 114 million PS5's sold before the next thing if it kept on track of PS4