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Ghost Recon Breakpoint |OT| Dance with Wolves and Ghosts
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The game can definitely be a looker at times.
One thing I didn't really like was all the foliage moving in the wind. It has some kind of.. I dunno, uncanny valley of plants for me. Like ALL the plants are swaying in the wind.. the same way/same time. Like they just need to tone it down a little bit.
All this makes it sound that stealth is a pain in the ass. Way more variables to consider, way more margin of error, higher chance of missions devolving into all out shoot-outs. And while these new ghost recons have stealth elements they are not really built as stealth games: no short, self-contained levels that you can replay over and over again to perfect your approach and a checkpoint save system that makes trial and error a pain in the ass.
Wildlands gave some tools to make stealth easier and it still was very hard to ghost missions due to the sheer amount of enemies on bases. If Breakpoint keeps the same number of enemies, takes out those QoL tools and adds all-seeing drones, I really can't stealth working all that well.
You just have to adapt your strategies I guess. It absolutely STILL works, you just have to do it in different ways. Is it better? I don't know. Different isn't always better or worse, sometimes it's just different.
There are perks and outfits and other ways to mitigate the drones, so if you want to be sneaky, you put your points/options/gear in that direction. There are things specifically geared towards extra damage/etc for drones.. so if you're going guns blazing maybe go that direction.
I absolutely would be patient, scout, and syncshot every fucking Santa Blanca gang member in a town and then waltz in. It was fun, cheesy as hell, but it was fun. Was it tactical? Ehhhhh not really. I guess maybe if you figure your AI ghost buddies are also supposed to be the best of the best.. but it was still cheesing the system. Without that, I have to do the heavy lifting, so it's an adjustment.. but it's still fun.
Also, dying really has zero penalty from what I can tell. You start by the nearest biovak..biouviou.. fucking campfire. You can just re-attempt. I haven't seen any real penalty for trying and failing. Someone else can elaborate more if they've noticed something.
No, most of the content seems to scale to your power level, although the final encounter seems to have a gear check of lvl 150. For reference I'm at about 140 with 12 hours played, doing a mix of activities.
Cant find my Sentinel pack that came with the retail copy of the game...guessing its in the first Hub or Bivouac,which I havent reached yet...?
Also I downloaded the French Audio pack,close to 1GB but everything is still in french except the actual Audio...?
Also I downloaded the French Audio pack,close to 1GB but everything is still in french except the actual Audio...?
This game sure is a giant mess of ideas that don't really work.
But I've been playing it for like 5 hours straight so neato I guess.
The world looks nice and I like exploring and stabbing things.
But I've been playing it for like 5 hours straight so neato I guess.
The world looks nice and I like exploring and stabbing things.
Do you really want a stealth game where you can just mindlessly dispose of all of the enemies? Wildlands had so many stationary guards that you could easily pick off with very little chance of being detected. There was generally little challenge to its stealth systems. You also don't need perfect stealth runs in this game since the game doesn't become terrible once you're detected: you just need to improvise and adapt to the situations as they unfold which is, to me, far more interesting than constantly saving and reloading to get that perfect stealth run since the overt combat in most stealth games is garbage.
To demonstrate how stealth looks like in Breakpoint and how its different but not too different from Wildlands, I recorded myself clearing a base that you're likely to see near the beginning of the game while making some comments about my approach. The biggest difference when it comes to soldiers is just how many actually patrol now which gives some urgency to your actions.
You're never *really* under leveled. Right from the beginning there is a hard zone with 150 ilvl enemies and you can kill them in a couple of shots with a base character, and head shots are instant killed.
It's extremely light on the loot/level mechanics.
The menus are all kinds of confusing in this game. That and the enemies can be really stupid....like standing in a line going down one by one stupid
Alright thanks guys. I guess I'll hold off for now. The reviews are pretty bad, plus MW, the Division 2 DLC, and Death Stranding are right around the corner.
thanks Karak. frustrating to see the shoot the messenger mentality but it is what it is. checked out your review earlier-- great stuff. ticked almost every box in terms of issues I had with the game already down in my notes. audio is so weird and muddy.
just did a mission where I was told to interrogate a soldier for info on how to infiltrate the underground bunker. took a few tries just to get the interrogation right because he kept popping around and alerting right as I snuck up. when I finally did it, I walked over to the nearby boat. took out the enemies-- but the boat had somehow spawned too far inshore. it was bugged and I couldn't move it.
had to run all the way around and grab another boat. as soon as I drive it into the hidden underground entrance, all the enemies see me and it breaks stealth. of course it does, it's a damn boat. they're all alerted, so they run behind cover. and stay there. they don't move-- they just stand still behind cover. they ring the radio in twice with the same message "this is the team who got Skell-- be careful." but stay standing still. I pick them each off. one of them runs back and forth in the same spot-- the rest don't move and let me pick 'em off. finally, they're all dead. but I don't know what the next objective is. don't see a waypoint either. I scan everything with the drone. finally go to the objective menu to pin it.
here it is. your next objective-- #ObjectiveName. yeah, I think I've played enough at this point.
How do I get this stats menuNecro reply, but here is my HW usage % from release version. CPU is at 5 GHz. Pretty stable at those levels no matter what.
Ok, I guess that video had pretty similar stealth gameplay compared to wildlands, no drones in that base though so no idea how they affect stealth.
Just one final question, do you actually clear the enemy presence by taking these type of bases in the game like in FarCry, or do you go 1Km in any direction and when you come back everything has respawned and going about like nothing happened (like in Wildlands)?
Ok, I figured out a way to invert the drone camera. In the custom controller settings, you can manually change the up and down of the camera individually. really weird, but it works
Also, I really dig the non guided option to play and using clues to find stuff. Unrelated to this game, but that's something I had really been wanting to see done in a game like breath of the wild
Also, I really dig the non guided option to play and using clues to find stuff. Unrelated to this game, but that's something I had really been wanting to see done in a game like breath of the wild
Enemies come back of course. Never understand how anyone could want areas to remain clear. Unless you have some mechanic to repopulate them.
Played coop for about 4 hours last night. I'd already gotten to about a 45 gear score and my friend was just starting. Walked him through the first couple of missions and explained how everything works.. The menus really are not great, nor intuitive.. But once you figure it out, it's workable.
We spent most of the time just fucking around and roaming around hunting patrols and looting the little areas of interest. Ended up stealing a big helicopter, flying around, getting shot down by a Behemoth.. Crashed in the ocean.. Survived.. Stole a boat.. And just went pirating along the cost for a bit. Found an airport, stole a plane, flew around, crashed the plane.. And then Ran around, ran into another Behemoth and absolutely destroyed us.
It was fun. Neither of us had any major issues, everything more or less worked as we had anticipated. We both put a lot of hours into Wildlands, so for the most part this was par for the course in what we expected. The gear/loot number is silly and not needed.. BUT it does give you incentive to fight everyone you see instead of running away since you can get gear from anyone. In Wildlands all you could get was some XP, so you'd avoid fights sometime to save time.
Working on some solo play today probably. I'm enjoying the slower pace and playing 'strategically'.
We spent most of the time just fucking around and roaming around hunting patrols and looting the little areas of interest. Ended up stealing a big helicopter, flying around, getting shot down by a Behemoth.. Crashed in the ocean.. Survived.. Stole a boat.. And just went pirating along the cost for a bit. Found an airport, stole a plane, flew around, crashed the plane.. And then Ran around, ran into another Behemoth and absolutely destroyed us.
It was fun. Neither of us had any major issues, everything more or less worked as we had anticipated. We both put a lot of hours into Wildlands, so for the most part this was par for the course in what we expected. The gear/loot number is silly and not needed.. BUT it does give you incentive to fight everyone you see instead of running away since you can get gear from anyone. In Wildlands all you could get was some XP, so you'd avoid fights sometime to save time.
Working on some solo play today probably. I'm enjoying the slower pace and playing 'strategically'.
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Guess I should make time and get started on my gear level to at least 200 for the raid
Turn it off in your TV settings ?...that is what I do on my 900e for non HDR Netflix stuff for example...
Hit 180 gear score and still haven't finished Act 3. Maybe I should stop doing side-quests / faction quest and get to finishing this campaign :)
Our review is up - http://starnews.ca/article/9303/review-tom-clancys-ghost-recon-breakpoint/
It's basically Wildlands with a bit more bare map and some pointless loot/survival mechanics that mean nothing anyway. I didn't hit any major bugs in my playthrough, with the bugged scope during zoom being the most common and annoying.
It's basically Wildlands with a bit more bare map and some pointless loot/survival mechanics that mean nothing anyway. I didn't hit any major bugs in my playthrough, with the bugged scope during zoom being the most common and annoying.
I don't know where you get the sense that these are hot takes. It's pretty much the consensus right now that Breakpoint is a big step down from Wildlands.
Good review, not played the PvP yet but I know it will be my thing. Its definitely flawed but not awful like some of the reviews seem to say, although I've been playing co-op which has been loads of fun.
It's a definite 7/10 game for me so far.
Man, the actual Wolves with Drones can sure fuck your shit up if you're not careful!
What's the best way to escape if the stupid spy drone spots you? I try to run but never get very far.
Also.. How are the two attack helicopters? The Blackhawk analog flies like a trashcan.
What's the best way to escape if the stupid spy drone spots you? I try to run but never get very far.
Also.. How are the two attack helicopters? The Blackhawk analog flies like a trashcan.
All drones seem to obey line of sight. So do all you can to break line of sight between you and it. Then hide by entering cave, building, doing prone camo thingy etc. and chill.
Also AI always goes for your last know location which can be sound based ("Shots heard") or line of sight based (where you was last seen by AI) so break LoS and change zip code.
This was driving me nuts too. I finally went into Customize Control on the settings menu and there's a tab for the drone. I changed Drone Camera Up to down on the R stick and Drone Camera Down to up on the right stick (if you just change one of those settings the game automatically changes the other one for you). It gave me a warning about the controls maybe not working like I'd expect, but it's been perfect since then. Playing on PS4.
Now if I can just get the helicopter controls adjusted...
Yeah, I posted after the same solution I figured out haha. Really weird oversight. I haven't flown a chopper yet
Got a source for that? Because last I checked they had only confirmed that there was an update arriving on the 15th (with some feedback based fixes), and they stated the Terminator event would arrive after the Raid. The assumption by the community was that the raid was coming on the 15th but I've yet to see Ubisoft confirm it.
If you're talking about the tweet they put out a while ago, the actual roadmap the tweet links to makes no mention of a raid coming this month, just that it (and special live events) will drop during episode 1, so it appears to be poor wording on their part.
Imo tweet clearly says Raid + special event (which we know is Terminator) is coming this month.
It does, but as I pointed out, the actual link (which is a roadmap for October) makes no mention of either dropping this month. Remember Episode last four months. If they drop all that content in one month they won't have much for the other three months.
Gear score *really* slows down at 190 it feels like. Guessing that is soft cap and hard cap is 200?
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I know people who managed to get to 250 which is where the soft cap is
I think farming 250+ Wolves camp are the way to go, from what I understand
Oh, awesome! And kind of surprising, knowing that the raid has a buy in of 150. I think I've only accidentally done 1 or 2 wolf camps, but I'll be doing a bunch of those moving forward.
