Genshin Impact |OT4| Anemo Crossing

[evilalien]

What does "stacks" mean here? I've seen it in a few comparison sheets and I don't really understand it. Seen it in regards to artifacts as well.

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You should read the passive effects on those weapons. On the Serpent Spine for example: "Every 4s a character is on the field, they will deal 6% more DMG and take 3% more DMG. This effect has a maximum of 5 stacks and will not be reset if the character leaves the field, but will be reduced by 1 stack when the character takes DMG."

 

[deliquate]

Weakest new character banner in a while since Albedo or maybe even worse than him, and weakest new female addition.

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Just had a little daydream about Mihoyo realizing that maybe they don't need to progressively pornify this game & then remembered that actually, neither people nor companies are really rational about this stuff and I shouldn't get my hopes up.

 

[Deleted member 420]

You should read the passive effects on those weapons. On the Serpent Spine for example: "Every 4s a character is on the field, they will deal 6% more DMG and take 3% more DMG. This effect has a maximum of 5 stacks and will not be reset if the character leaves the field, but will be reduced by 1 stack when the character takes DMG."

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Ah that makes sense

 

[Busaiku]

Just had a little daydream about Mihoyo realizing that maybe they don't need to progressively pornify this game & then remembered that actually, neither people nor companies are really rational about this stuff and I shouldn't get my hopes up.

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Maybe if Klee or Kazuha do better.

 

[elyetis]

Early CN sales are in:

Opened a tad higher than John Lee Rerun but Day 2 for Eula is a pretty sharp drop where rerun went up, and rerun had a bad weapon banner vs. this one which is quite solid. Looks like she's doing worse than the rerun all in all (or her weapon banner really flopped), but we'll have to wait a few days to see. Weakest new character banner in a while since Albedo or maybe even worse than him, and weakest new female addition.

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Doesn't really surprise me, I like playing her but I don't feel like her damage is top tier ( at least when I compare her to my Hu Tao with similar level of investment ), and her kit can be pretty frustrating depending of what you fight ( mostly because of the huge delay on Q ).

Can't say much about the weapon banner since I don't really expect to pull on one, but if I ever did I would likely avoid one where the weapons have something else than ATK or CRIT for substat, something like phys/any elemental DMG Bonus is far too limiting when it comes to who can use it. But I'm not really the target audience for the trap banner.

 

[Deleted member 721]

i wonder which type of character would be as sucessfull as klee, a collab character would certainly be a sucessfull, but outside that, maybe shota? i think the long white haired mature/cold addult husbando would certainly be a lot successful, by what i read in manhuas its very popular, it would also help in the sales a very long katana, to get the idea of sephiroth

people would go bonkers spending money on the weapon banner

contact me by pm for my paypal account mihoyo

 

[deliquate]

the long white haired mature/cold addult husbando

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oh no this is my kryptonite. maybe they should keep making lingerie girls!

 

[Busaiku]

i wonder which type of character would be as sucessfull as klee, a collab character would certainly be a sucessfull, but outside that, maybe shota? i think the long white haired mature/cold addult husbando would certainly be a lot successful, by what i read in manhuas its very popular, it would also help in the sales a very long katana, to get the idea of sephiroth

people would go bonkers spending money on the weapon banner

contact me by pm for my paypal account mihoyo

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Venti is bigger than Klee.

 

[kodax_shc]

They need to integrate new characters in the game / story before they are able to pulled for. It's hard to be interested in a character that just plops out of nowhere.

I think Baizhu will probably do big numbers since he has appeared several times. Ayaka will probably do crazy numbers unless she sucks.

 

[Ascheroth]

They need to integrate new characters in the game / story before they are able to pulled for. It's hard to be interested in a character that just plops out of nowhere.

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It's funny that Rosaria, a random 4* star had more care put into that aspect than pretty much all 5* that didn't show up in the story.
Like, she first appeared back in 1.2 and even in the update she appeared in, 1.4, she was already part of the Festival storyline before she appeared on a banner.
Yanfei isn't too bad either since she got the whole teapot questline for her.
I hope that this is indicative of a trend going forward. But Eula appears out of nowhere again, so it all seems very random.

Well if anything once we get Inazuma we should get a whole bunch of new characters via story.

 

[DatManOvaDer]

I am gonna force Kazuha to be main dps. Way too cool to only pop him in for a burst

 

[Shining Star]

It's funny that Rosaria, a random 4* star had more care put into that aspect than pretty much all 5* that didn't show up in the story.
Like, she first appeared back in 1.2 and even in the update she appeared in, 1.4, she was already part of the Festival storyline before she appeared on a banner.
Yanfei isn't too bad either since she got the whole teapot questline for her.
I hope that this is indicative of a trend going forward. But Eula appears out of nowhere again, so it all seems very random.

Well if anything once we get Inazuma we should get a whole bunch of new characters via story.

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More characters should have quests like Yan Fei where you are automatically pointed towards them instead of having to unlock them. I know I ignored a lot of the character quests for a long time.

 

[Lump]

It's funny that Rosaria, a random 4* star had more care put into that aspect than pretty much all 5* that didn't show up in the story.
Like, she first appeared back in 1.2 and even in the update she appeared in, 1.4, she was already part of the Festival storyline before she appeared on a banner.
Yanfei isn't too bad either since she got the whole teapot questline for her.
I hope that this is indicative of a trend going forward. But Eula appears out of nowhere again, so it all seems very random.

Well if anything once we get Inazuma we should get a whole bunch of new characters via story.

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Yanfei's quest is just a character quest that got really weirdly inserted into the Teapot quest.

But Rosaria was introduced well, yes.

 

[elyetis]

They need to integrate new characters in the game / story before they are able to pulled for. It's hard to be interested in a character that just plops out of nowhere.

I think Baizhu will probably do big numbers since he has appeared several times. Ayaka will probably do crazy numbers unless she sucks.

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There is probably a good and bad reason it isn't happening.

The good one is they they probably want to avoid being forced to introduce too many character to the story even where it wouldn't make much sense.
The bad one is that they simply don't release enough story content for it to be feasible.

Yanfei's quest is just a character quest that got really weirdly inserted into the Teapot quest.

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Still better than having some random ass npc being used rather than a playable character.

 

[okita]

While I like to see sales graphics , I don't think this is enough to start draw conclusions on what is happening, We would need a lot more information to see the bigger picture. MAU of the game in each banner, sales per region and platform.

But if you want a Confirmation Bias take (like some others here): I would say no one will roll for characters to play a silly hide and Seek game , festivals and content there isn't have anything to do with the core gameplay which has been almost neglected for a good while and more: a character doesn't bring nothing to the table besides It does damage, if they add enemies where physical damage matter then we might see a raise in interest.

 

[Fuu]

I was playing my last couple matches of Windtrace and I chuckcled at these Childes hitting on each other.

 

[Hikari]

I guess I'm saving until September at this point? Gonna be a really boring road. I have all the characters I want except Mona so that sucks. I play minimum maybe 10-20 mins a day. My friend the same and he just got Eula. He loves her but he's said to me the story is kinda boring cause it takes too long to update it and too many filler patches. I'm starting to agree with him. It's not exciting to wait this long for story.

 

[cormags]

I think I'm gonna use my confirmed 5 star pull on Kazuha. After getting Zhongli there's not many others on the horizon I'm really interested in besides Raiden and Cyno (lol), plus I don't have a built Anemo character yet. I've been spending this afternoon planning out a build for him :)

I am gonna force Kazuha to be main dps. Way too cool to only pop him in for a burst

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Mihoyo is committed to giving the best AA animations to sub DPS units. It's twisted

 

[Deleted member 721]

after inazuna is which region?

 

[Lee Chaolan]

So I just pulled Bennet on the weapon banner..

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Yep enjoy the Bennett notification forever club xD

Meanwhile, I got Rosaria, the only 4 star character I did not have from the weapon banner :o Couldn't believe it. lol

 

[Kierric]

I would expect the peaks in that sales graph to fall over time, simply because the player base is decreasing too, especially compared to the boom at launch. So I don't think it's necessarily accurate to use raw sales numbers alone to directly compare how popular different banners were.

What would be truly interesting is if we had a graph with data that had been normalised to take into account the number of active players during each banner. But I suppose that data is difficult to gather and not publicly available anyway...

 

[medinaria]

While I like to see sales graphics , I don't think this is enough to start draw conclusions on what is happening, We would need a lot more information to see the bigger picture. MAU of the game in each banner, sales per region and platform.

But if you want a Confirmation Bias take (like some others here): I would say no one will roll for characters to play a silly hide and Seek game , festivals and content there isn't have anything to do with the core gameplay which has been almost neglected for a good while and more: a character doesn't bring nothing to the table besides It does damage, if they add enemies where physical damage matter than we might see a raise in interest.

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it really isn't, also my personal confirmation bias take is that you can see from the lower overall non-peak spending in the last few banners that there's just less currency being used overall. like, look at the pre/post-venti levels. you're starting from a lower baseline because people just aren't currently spending as much. when taken from that baseline, eula's in line with usual spending on other banners. not an outlier in a positive direction, but also not in the negative one.

my theory is that the game's in a relatively low-content period (meaning less players) and also that the clear venti spike drained a lot of people from spending on future banners. even zhongli's rerun is fairly low, and he's inarguably one of the three most broken units in the game (as well as one of the most popular). tells me that there's something up that goes far beyond personal biases regarding character design or the goodness of the character.

 

[L.O.R.D]

what artifact should i detch for zhongli?
should i detch petra or nobless for the new tenacity artifact?

 

[Doorman]

Ayaka is probably going to do bonkers numbers unless she absolutely sucks damage-wise, if only because so many people have known about and have been saving for specifically her for so damn long. Plus she's not likely to come out until the update that also brings Inazuma, which is going to be the first real "big" infusion of content the game's had since Dragonspine back in 1.2, and the prospect of exploring a new area will bring back a lot of people who haven't been compelled by constant random festival minigames.

To that end, I'd expect Eula's banner probably would have performed better if we got a little preview of her during the Windblume Festival, or if Windtrace had started a bit earlier than it did and used the story of the hunters and rebels from the game to familiarize people with the history of the Lawrence clan and introduce Eula beforehand that way. I feel like miHoYo doesn't like showing their cards too soon in order to try and maximize people's FOMO on current banners, but I wonder to what extent that's also hurting them because now there's been multiple occasions of them releasing characters with relatively little buildup and even less follow-through, and knowing that a character is likely to be utterly inessential makes it a bit easier to be patient for something you know in advance you'll want.

 

[Kierric]

Mihoyo is committed to giving the best AA animations to sub DPS units. It's twisted

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So true! Albedo's little laser blast thing is so cool but has anyone in the history of genshin EVER used him for his normal attacks?! If someone out there has made it work, let me know

 

[MoonlitBow]

So true! Albedo's little laser blast thing is so cool but has anyone in the history of genshin EVER used him for his normal attacks?! If someone out there has made it work, let me know

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Yeah, I've played as him before and it worked.

He has a damage string. Hit with his skill, attack to activate his skill effect and then keep attacking until it activates again (your skill CD will refresh before then but don't use it just yet), once your 2nd geo damage triggers then use the skill and it will refresh the activation rate of the on-hit effect so you can get another right away.

He's much better playing as someone else though.

 

[Meleina]

So glad I'm finally done with Windtrace. I honestly thought about whether or not I wanted to finish for the name card. I hated this mini game so much...

Back to pulling the grind I guess. Just gathering books and level up materials now, but it does feel like a bit of a slog. I think I'm finally slowing down on this game. Trying to decide if I want to pull for Eula or Klee. Both seem good.

 

[Hikari]

after inazuna is which region?

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isn't it Sumeru or Fontaine?

 

[Magneto]

Yep enjoy the Bennett notification forever club xD

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That notification is killing me.

It's there.

Every single time i open the menu.

 

[Kierric]

Yeah, I've played as him before and it worked.

He has a damage string. Hit with his skill, attack to activate his skill effect and then keep attacking until it activates again (your skill CD will refresh before then but don't use it just yet), once your 2nd geo damage triggers then use the skill and it will refresh the activation rate of the on-hit effect so you can get another right away.

He's much better playing as someone else though.

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I might play around with this! He's just entered my friend-building rotation for overworld stuff so it could be fun there if nothing else. My Albedo's attack stat suuucks though because I went all-in on defence with him...

I've been using him as my official tree chopper recently just so I get to see his attack string in motion for a change

 

[MoonlitBow]

I might play around with this! He's just entered my friend-building rotation for overworld stuff so it could be fun there if nothing else. My Albedo's attack stat suuucks though because I went all-in on defence with him...

I've been using him as my official tree chopper recently just so I get to see his attack string in motion for a change

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I haven't built up my Albedo in awhile so I don't remember what his stats were and they definitely aren't up to par because none of his artifacts are fully leveled or optimized, but Harbinger of Dawn worked pretty well on a Def scaling build if I recall due to it having a high crit multiplier (and because the flower damage doesn't scale with attack IIRC).

 

[xendless]

Early CN sales are in:

Opened a tad higher than John Lee Rerun but Day 2 for Eula is a pretty sharp drop where rerun went up, and rerun had a bad weapon banner vs. this one which is quite solid. Looks like she's doing worse than the rerun all in all (or her weapon banner really flopped), but we'll have to wait a few days to see. Weakest new character banner in a while since Albedo or maybe even worse than him, and weakest new female addition.

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Considering it's counting money only: You gotta think that having 3 re-runs in the lead up to her will have less people reaching for the credit card right?
Compared to Venti following up the triple tap patch of Xiao/Keqing/Hu Tao, when people would be drained of primos

 

[Hikari]

I'm surprised Eula's banner isn't that popular when she's a top tier waifu honestly lol

 

[Lee Chaolan]

That notification is killing me.

It's there.

Every single time i open the menu.

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People keep asking for what else they should be asking for in the surveys...it's this. this right here xD

 

[Tyaren]

I was playing my last couple matches of Windtrace and I chuckcled at these Childes hitting on each other.

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Childe mains...

 

[Kalentan]

So I'm a bit confused.

I'm watching someone play and they have like... a ton of events going on. Like a login bonus, Stellar Reunion, and more.

All I have is Windtrace, Aphros Delos Chapter, and Test Run.

 

[evilalien]

So I'm a bit confused.

I'm watching someone play and they have like... a ton of events going on. Like a login bonus, Stellar Reunion, and more.

All I have is Windtrace, Aphros Delos Chapter, and Test Run.

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All that stuff is for people who haven't played for a while to entice them to come back.

 

[Kalentan]

All that stuff is for people who haven't played for a while to entice them to come back.

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Ahh... That make sense.

 

[Fuu]

Praying that we'll have a way of deactivating constellations before I get Benny to C6. I need to remember to include that at the end of surveys.

 

[Chrono]

I honestly feel like the Ayaka banner won't do very well at all money-wise, specifically because she's a hyped character and SO many people have been saving months and months for her, more than enough to guarantee a full pity. It's the character(s) after her that will likely pull in the numbers, like if they release Raiden immediately following her when the players resources are depleted.

It's why I'm starting to believe that they'll probably release Ayaka first in the patch she's featured in, and then someone who breaks the game (Yoimiya?) afterwards.

 

[Moogle]

Childe mains...

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[xendless]

I honestly feel like the Ayaka banner won't do very well at all money-wise, specifically because she's a hyped character and SO many people have been saving months and months for her, more than enough to guarantee a full pity. It's the character(s) after her that will likely pull in the numbers, like if they release Raiden immediately following her when the players resources are depleted.

It's why I'm starting to believe that they'll probably release Ayaka first in the patch she's featured in, and then someone who breaks the game (Yoimiya?) afterwards.

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The closest example is probably Xiao, being an early beta character people were waiting for, looks like he got a big spend on him....
However that was after Ganyu, a character that wasn't all that hyped, that came out buffed and broken to sap the primos lol
It's telling that Ganyu's chart actually rises after the initial peak, as the reviews got out

It would be great if there was a chart that counted all pulls, not just the top ups

 

[Mik317]

lost in this is the fact that some have C6 on four stars that have been in every damn banner...as well as many of the weapons. So most only pull to get the 5* and if they don't want them they won't pull

now obviously shit isn't easy but the game needs more 4* characters and weapons if they want people to pull more.

also would help the content droughts some feel with more than just 5* to build.

 

[Viken]

So with this E > Q > N4 > Ehold > N4 combo you can get up to 14 stacks on her burst. It's nice coz earlier people only assume 12 stacks max on her calc. Granted, the last normal hit window is kinda tight but it's doable if you want to push.

I also like that it doesn't use dash cancel so it flows better compared to other combo strings. Fitting for our dancing queen.

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any other characters with "ideal" attack strings?

I'm not sure if it was posted already but Zakharov from KQM made this Eula weapon comparison spreadsheet, still early days of testing / theorycrafting but it might be useful:

Eula Weapon Comparison

Weapon Comparison DPS Weapon,R1,R2,R3,R4,R5 Song of Broken Pines,22,242,22,782,23,322,23,862,24,402 Wolf’s Gravestone,20,872,21,410,21,949,22,487,23,026 Skyward Pride (ignoring ER),18,535,18,902,19,269,19,637,20,004 Skyward Pride (with ER value),21,558,21,985,22,412,22,839,23,267 The Unforged (s...

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wait does this chart mean that pines is her best weapon, or am I just reading it wrong.

 

[Sanlei]

Considering it's counting money only: You gotta think that having 3 re-runs in the lead up to her will have less people reaching for the credit card right?
Compared to Venti following up the triple tap patch of Xiao/Keqing/Hu Tao, when people would be drained of primos

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Yeah the graph isnt telling much besides Childe being the worst character ever. Its going to be interesting if Kazuha could undermine him (probably not).
Surprised Eula got even close to Hu Tao, who is just the way better and more useful unit with the more popular VA. Seems like good numbers for a physical claymore after reruns.
(And i like Eula, but claymores and physical are just boring)

Some are also just in saving mode for Inazuma knowingly that Mihoyo is going to drain even with just 2 new popular units.

 

[xendless]

Yeah the graph isnt telling much besides Childe being the worst character ever. Its going to be interesting if Kazuha could undermine him (probably not).
Surprised Eula got even close to Hu Tao, who is just the way better and more useful unit with the more popular VA. Seems like good numbers for a physical claymore after reruns.
(And i like Eula, but claymores and physical are just boring)

Some are also just in saving mode for Inazuma knowingly that Mihoyo is going to drain even with just 2 new popular units.

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Kazuha seems pretty popular on twitter, but then again so does Childe, so I guess that doesn't really translate to splashed cash, or even pulling on the banner.
I don't think Mihoyo will risk putting out a banner 5 star with Childe's level of cooldowns again, makes for a horrible test run. (yes I know you reduce them with skill management, but someone picking up and playing him in the test run likely won't)

 

[Sanlei]

I just think Kazuha is in a bad place(for me a good one as im saving after getting Eula :P). Stuck between Klee rerun and whoever will be in 1.7. The worst case scenario for primos would be Yoimiya(or even Yae) and Ayaka, unless they do another rerun and Yoimiya isnt ready. The leaks are going to be interesting there, luckily we should know more in the next 2 weeks.

But yeah i also wouldnt expect another Childe.

 

[evilalien]

wait does this chart mean that pines is her best weapon, or am I just reading it wrong.

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Yes, it's her best weapon as you would expect since it's basically her canonical weapon.

 

[AkiraAkira]

Who was it that said Eula rhymes with bombah?

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Oh wait, it was me. No new avatar for me Bansai >:3

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[Tyaren]