Weird times we are living in... If reviews arent perfect, all hype gets lost , its weird... hope to see some of you folks on line next week, cant wait to enjoy this game!!!
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Gears 5 Review Thread
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If this was Sony they wouldnt pull such shit... but since its MS hurray...
The hype goes nowehere. Reviews mean less than ever. It's what's popular on twitch that matters most these days.
I'm just so glad to see an Xbox first party game hang in there with the big guns. This is the first time we've seen this arguably for the entire generation.
Extremely positive sign of things to come.
Extremely positive sign of things to come.
Look to my original statement- do what IGN is doing and split the scores with the intent of making an aggregate score after you had time to play all the different game modes? MP should've had enough people for them to play at least a few matches in each mode. If not, don't put up a review score without either making note it's campaign only or it's pending once you've had time to play.
Not a new concept at all, we've seen this since 2013-2014
I was just joking :P (though Spider-Man wasn't a big GOTY winner since it had to compete with GOW)
Except 87 is a great score for a great game so it makes sense.
Seriously, there's a lot wrong with Metal Gear Solid V but its almost entirely related to the plot and story. Most notably how the plot is told from entirely from the point of view of Venom Snake (hell, the cutscene direction even does its best to maintain a single shot) and therefore leave a lot of other characters either MIA for huge stretches of time or entirely undeveloped. In other Metal Gear games you'd get a lot of cutscenes of Skull Face doing shit for instance but instead you see him in like three missions in total.
The gameplay itself is one of the few open world games where there's enough goofy hardware and mechanics that you can use some degree of lateral thinking to complete your missions. The Man on Fire boss is a pretty decent example, a lot of people ended up having the rain bail them out or using the water tanks but with some thinking you could ram him off the cliff with the jeep 80s action movie style, blast him into the pool by rigging the fuel tank with C4 and baiting him towards it, or blasting him with a water pistol. Not to mention its finally a Metal Gear game that doesn't feel remotely clunky at all and actual gameplay experience is really good even on pretty bad PCs.
The repetitiveness and general aimlessness of the gameplay is really mostly plot related in my opinion. The actual skeleton and mechanics of the gameplay is simply top notch.
Why are people acting as if 86/85 isn't a good score...? If anything, it should be rather impressive considering this franchise is on its 6th entry (counting Judgement).
90 is always such an unrealistic place to set your expectations considering how many games actually get scores like that (not many). The OpenCritic 2019 hall of fame has only Resident Evil 2, Sekiro and Shadowbringers at 90 or higher. 3 games all year. Astral Chain, Control, Fire Emblem... all games currently being raved about and all in the mid (to high) 80s. That's good company to be in.
Spider-man was obliterated by RDR 2, not to mention by GOW especially. Spidey came as veeeeery distant 3rd as overall GOTY.
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Will pick this up someday.
Still need to beat Gears 4.
I haven't gotten to read reviews yet, but have been skimming through the thread. I haven't seen any mention of this but for Gears of War, I think the series would have benefited from implementing some sort of contextual melee system and that Uncharted 4 and TLoU have. This would lead to a ton more dynamic gameplay moments. I mean it's Gears - they could do so much brutal stuff with a system like that
Still need to beat Gears 4.
I haven't gotten to read reviews yet, but have been skimming through the thread. I haven't seen any mention of this but for Gears of War, I think the series would have benefited from implementing some sort of contextual melee system and that Uncharted 4 and TLoU have. This would lead to a ton more dynamic gameplay moments. I mean it's Gears - they could do so much brutal stuff with a system like that
So it could get closer to 90 or 80.
Looks like it'll settle around 86 like I thought, really sounds like it would have been higher if that had nailed the more open areas.
Ummm...
Forza Horizon 4
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www.metacritic.com
Astral Chain is 88 and Fire Emblem is 89, that's high 80's.
It just confirms what I've always said which is that unless it's a multiplayer only game, many critics basically just review and score the campaign with the multiplayer as an afterthought. But obviously multiplayer is anything but an afterthought in Gears, it's literally half the game, and the portion that will get by a gigantic mile the most hours spent on it compared to the one and gone campaign.
It doesn't affect me, as I'm primarily interested in the campaign. But for the Xbox division, it highlights the importance of having a strong campaign to back up your multiplayer game, or not having one at all. Luckily in this case it seems Coalition has delivered on both fronts with a very respectable MC score, and vast majority of reviews being 9+.
Which is a good example why you should not trust reviews or goty pics ;)
What a fucking slog RDR2 was. 97 metacritic, lol.
both gears 4 and halo 5 have 84, they aren't big guns anymore?
not to mention forzas
Happy to see all the positive reviews. Slightly lower than my prediction but still a great score.
I'm looking forward to playing this once I'm done with Control.
I'm looking forward to playing this once I'm done with Control.
Scores look good, and I really enjoyed the feel of the gameplay in the tech test. Looking forward to tomorrow night!
Shame that it doesn't seem like the open world sections have panned out (at least for reviewers). I was skeptical on that, since I really disliked them in UC4 and LL. Was a waste of time in God of War as well. It works when the open world is the crux of the game, like Spiderman and RDR2, but it doesn't need to be in goddamn everything. It's okay to make a tight linear AAA game.
Shame that it doesn't seem like the open world sections have panned out (at least for reviewers). I was skeptical on that, since I really disliked them in UC4 and LL. Was a waste of time in God of War as well. It works when the open world is the crux of the game, like Spiderman and RDR2, but it doesn't need to be in goddamn everything. It's okay to make a tight linear AAA game.
The Gears series and Halo series are the ones i miss not having an Xbox all gen, I remember having a blast doing all Gears campaigns with friends in 1/2/3.
Good to see it still scores well.
Good to see it still scores well.
Can we drop the conspiracy narrative? It's ok to say reviewers aren't consistent in their judgment or that you disagree with the values they score a game on. That's not the same as saying Sony has IGN in their back pocket or whatever nonsense you find in a comment section.
Just for comparison, in the Xbox 360/PS3 Gen I see that there were around 50 games with an MC score of 90 or above. For this gen I see about 30, and while this number might still grow, we're at the tail end of the gen, so we'll end up with a pretty significant reduction. So an 87 score is actually pretty good.
it's very possible and on more than one occasion Jeff Gerstmann would talk about he never found it fun to go into a Gears MP game and get Gnashered all day long.
If you're not into the MP and get half decent at the movement mechanics like wall bouncing and the shotgun play then it can be incredibly frustrating. shit, even the head of the studio Rod Fergusson struggled with it and for that very reason introduced the Retro Lancer and Sawed Off Shotgun to combat those who where much better at the game.
so your opinion is worth more than others? Maybe for yourself, but generalizing "dont trust reviewers" because you dont like what they did is kindergarten level stuff.
People are not tired of Uncharted.
People were not tired of Metal Gear Solid.
People were not tired of Assassin's Creed.
People are not tired of Resident Evil, Devil May Cry, Street Fighter.
People are not tired of Spider-man.
People begged Activision to go back to the boots to the ground Call of Duty series....dump Advanced Warfare.
I have been playing Mario since the late 80's, seen turn based RPG's from that era and still people want those in current day.
If Gears and Halo are not for you as they are currently being made, then that is fine. You cannot have a game for everyone.
To put it in layman's terms, you cannot effect changes into game play for the sake of it. Not in a game where multiplayer is core to the experience and longevity of the title. This is the reason why examples you give have no weight, not RE, not UC4. When they add competitive multiplayer, that is strong, that endures the test of time, you will have a point.
