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Gears 5’s open world points of interest & visual cues took inspiration from God of War
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The thread title and article don't match, that's a real leap from what he actually says. There was some influence from God of War in how they did the visual cues in the environment, is pretty much it.
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I don't know, I loved the world design in God of War.
Lake of nine sea levels were fresh enough to stand apart.
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This has been mentioned more than once by the developers. I'm not sure what drama there should be.
Funny thing the real article is up since thursday and was discussed in the preview thread. Was just waiting for a site like gamingbolt to pick it up offcourse and make a nice headline and here we are.
So what? The OP has now changed the title cause we all know what was going on.
even if not, it's always better to source the actual article where the quotes come from
and not some website looking to take some quotes out of context and slap a click bait title on it to get some ad views
Which of the 6 worlds presented in the game wasn't that good though?
Maybe they changed the task for level designers to make open areas after God of War released (after all only 2 acts have open world levels). Or they were already working on them and seeing how God of War is structured gave The Coalition additional ideas.
After all God of War is the GOTY of 2018 and GOAT, it's only natural that the industry is trying to copy the tremendous success of the game.
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Was about to say this. GoW stuff in GoW is weirdly GoW-like. It works for GoW I guess.
Even there I thought they didn't do enough with it.
Everything else is just hallways that loop back on each other, with a lot of climbing and sqeezing through stuff.
In God of War?Is that a serious question? Alfheim was the only world that actually had something going for it outside the hubworld. Especially Muspel- and Niflheim were completely botched potential. Helheim was kind of lame, too.
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Would you prefer if Kratos was more agile during traversal?
Hollow Knight is also loop back design. It turned out pretty good, no?
So you're telling that 2 worlds where the most of events take place are good and 2 additional worlds are not cuz they're additional? Well, I dunno, isn't it obvious that the potential of these worlds had to be saved for inevitable sequels? Agree about Helheim, the first travel there was kinda boring especially because of the troll boss. But second visit paid off with flying ship sequence.
Yeah that was funny
The entire Act 1 and bits of Act 2 were/are on Youtuber. Ninja is also streaming the campaign tomorrow I think
Still highly sceptical if this works. God of War has great characters, lore and a fantastic world what made it very interesting to "travel".
The last Gears games had nothing of this. Gears was always about the fantastic combat for me. But we will see. It's all a matter of how they realized it.
The last Gears games had nothing of this. Gears was always about the fantastic combat for me. But we will see. It's all a matter of how they realized it.
Hm HK's traversal is indeed more fun, I think being agile and having more options definetly helps. And while it loops on itself, it's way better layed out as a whole. The nine lakes is just a hub where you have some paths leading away from that each loop on itself once or twice. I wouldn't say they are in the same ballpark.
Personally, the worst thing was the one shot take that made some sections a chore. The constant need to mask loading screens lead to a lot of subpar situations, imo.
I would have prefered if they fleshed out Alfheim and Helheim instead of making the prospect of visiting the others promising early on just to have one being a randomly generated minigame that is an absolute chore to play trhough on higher difficulties, and a glorified hallway with more or less entertaining challenges.
The flying ship sequence was bad imo. It went on for way, way too long.
....what....taking some inspiration of how to do visual cues isnt any indication of an development timeline.
Stuff like this is always cool and inspiring to hear! So much of the industry is developers trying out new ideas and reworking pieces of things other folks have tried into their own interesting take on things, and I think that cycle does a lot of good for propelling all of us forward as a medium. Can't wait to jump into this game soon, even just hearing about the exploration elements and seeing the skiff has me excited!
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I agree about agility. But reducing lake of nine and general world design interconnectivity in God of War to this degree is a disservice to what the team managed to pull off, all things considered. It's not as intricate as HK, and I don't even think it was trying to be a complex maze of wonders.
There's obvious room for improvements, like any great game.
I'm confused by this, how did the one shot make some sections a chore?
Mask loading screens with what?
If only there was a Preview thread where you'd be more likely to find gameplay videos. Or multiple threads about the game.
Im not really sure how a frequent Era visitor can say Gears is 'off their radar' at this point.
It's so annoying to see GoW referenced all the time when, in terms of world building and structuring, it did nothing that a bunch of games had done before. It basically copied the evolution of its systems that Darksiders did, it didn't invent anything in this field, but those other games get no credit.
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I really like this post. Wish more people saw it your way rather than sprinting towards negative take.
See, outside of the water level lowering and the fact they make boatrides entertaining through dialogue I don't think it's anything special. But yeah, I'm curious to see what they'll do with the next game.
A lot of these climbing sections and moments where you sqeeze through narrow pathways are there to mask loading. Same with the realm you're in when fast traveling. It's just not ideal, imo.
Honestly, I hate the way these open-world games do points of interest and map icons. I've completely lost interest in any open-world game that relies on waypoints.
GOW2018's level design is honestly just Souls-lite. It tries to take the same principle of circular level design and hand-crafted open areas but makes everything look and feel a lot more obvious. It's just bad, but everything felt like a more mainstream-palatable version of what other, more niche games had already been doing. The water traversal was a smart idea though.
GOW2018's level design is honestly just Souls-lite. It tries to take the same principle of circular level design and hand-crafted open areas but makes everything look and feel a lot more obvious. It's just bad, but everything felt like a more mainstream-palatable version of what other, more niche games had already been doing. The water traversal was a smart idea though.
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Fair enough, I'm not going to argue against your position. But my experience was rather different.
God of War: The Rise of Loki is going to something alright :p
I don't think climbing sections are masking any loading screen, not sure about squeezing through narrow pathways though. But I swear this game didn't have many of the latter?
I love how the first responses in this thread just ignore what is said. The visual hinting a la God of War is very close to the Gears of War way, with camera behind the shoulders focusing on something happening.
Color me interested. I could never get into Gears' gameplay, but GoW5 will be on Game Pass so I guess I'll give it a shot.
I like the art in the OP.
I like the art in the OP.
Aw but we argue almost every time. It's tradition at this point. :D
But yeah, that one will be glorious.
The way I remember it there was at least one every pathway, and the climbing absolutely was used that way sometimes, especially the longer ones.
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Nah, our opinions usually converge in agreement. Not in this case though, lol.
I just can't wait to beat the shit out of Thor and Odin, haha.
You might be right, I don't remember these parts very well.
Yeah I'm sorry but I really hate the sound of this. I'm going in expecting the worst. God of War's open aspect really hurt the pacing for me.
Haha. I mean, its obvious games draw inspiration from other games all the time.
One of my favorites this gen, spiderman, obviously drew inspiration from Batman combat system..
One of my favorites this gen, spiderman, obviously drew inspiration from Batman combat system..