It's a crime we'll never get a Wonder Green Amiibo.
I like the chunky heavy ones the best.
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GAMEXPLAIN SOURCES: Platinumgames will launch a kickstarter to fund Switch/PS4 ports of The Wonderful 101
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I like the chunky heavy ones the best.
Hey, I'm not saying it's a good idea (it's not), but that's what I imagine will happen if they aren't just going to do all the platforms at once.
You are right: They should, at the very least, have PC as an initial platform. That's a massive potential market they could be losing out on by side-lining PC.
because exclusives are bad!!! unless they are exclusive to Nintendo
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IIRC Nintendo allowed SEGA and PG to use the newly voiced records to be used in the PC Port of the first Bayonetta, which they paid for?
And if Nintendo doesn't need the IP and want's to maintain a healthy realtionship with PG I can see them seeling the IP to PG.
To have a studio with such talent, to work on many exclusive projects is more important than an IP that Nintendo considers not worth the hassle.
Plus PG are pros enough to understand that if a company (which is there to make money) doesn't wanna put more money into it,
they don't start acting like childs
And if Nintendo doesn't need the IP and want's to maintain a healthy realtionship with PG I can see them seeling the IP to PG.
To have a studio with such talent, to work on many exclusive projects is more important than an IP that Nintendo considers not worth the hassle.
Plus PG are pros enough to understand that if a company (which is there to make money) doesn't wanna put more money into it,
they don't start acting like childs
It shows Nintendo has no confidence in:
- Their original IPs
- Their developer partners
- Taking risks with fan favorite games
Not sure Platinum having to go their own way to fund it is a good look for anyone, especially for Nintendo.
It not being as bad as that doesn't make this good.
Is pretty sad that Nintendo would not throw some spare money to port W101 so PG had to get the IP to make a KS...
I'm not sure how you would come to the conclusion that a port of W101 shows no confidence in their development partners when they've continued to work with said development partner on several games since and have at least one more game in the pipeline that they're funding.
You'd have a point if Nintendo hadn't just published a new Platinum IP six months ago and weren't funding Bayonetta 3. You'd also have a point if Nintendo hadn't created and nurtured multiple new IP over the past five years. This is not a bad look for Nintendo. They're showing a partner respect by working with them to allow them full use of an IP they (Platinum) cherish. Super pleased with how Nintendo handled this situation. In most cases, the IP would languish, never to be seen again.
Anyway, I appreciate your response.
- they did have faith in it. they were rewarded with nothing
- sure, that's why they greenlit Bayo 3, Astral Chain, and worked with them on Star Fox. talk about a lack of faith
- there ain't enough fans to matter
w101 sold horribly. Nintendo backed Astral Chain which did decent
They funded Astral Chain and the Bayonettas, we should be grateful as neither were sure things.
We already know The Wonderful 101 isn't at all.
You would have an argument if Nintendo didn't just release a huge new highly acclaimed and successful IP developed by .... Platinum Games...
You say it's a bad look for Nintendo, but both companies are still actively working and thriving together. Your head canon for this situation is so weird.
there's some real masterclass businesspeople in this thread comin' in with the "bad look" takes
next they'll call this move a "big yikes"
next they'll call this move a "big yikes"
Well in the end Nintendo is a mega corp. I'm sure some executives really wants it but in the end it's all about money, not the fans nor "partners". If PG is proposing a port that will sell, Nintendo will take it like bay 2, hell they even fund bay 3 now. But w101 is clearly not a popular game.
W101 did catastrophically bad numbers everywhere. Like, "soundly outsold by Tokyo Mirage Sessions in all regions" bad.
Nintendo is literally supporting a second sequel to a niche action game and just funded a sci-fi action game last year, both from Platinum games. I would like for you to explain how funding sequels and new IPs from their partners shows how Nintendo has no confidence in their original IPs and developer partners. Go on. I'll wait.
Then crowdfund. Wouldn't that alleviate the charity work for them?
I have a suspicion that it would do better than that if it came out on Switch.
Anything sold on Wii U isn't indicative of anything. Nintendo should have put out a better console.
Imagine their presentation to publishers.
PG: here's why you should fund us on W101 port
PG: first, looking at the sales on WiiU
Publishers: WTF
PG: here's why you should fund us on W101 port
PG: first, looking at the sales on WiiU
Publishers: WTF
How do some of you get this shit in your head? If Nintendo had no faith in their dev partners or funding fan favorites they wouldn't have continued to fund games three more games with Platinum (Bayo 2, Astral Chain, Bayo 3). They wouldn't have funded Bayo 2 and 3, the FE series would have died with the last GC title, the Xenoblade series wouldn't have ever continued past 1, etc
All this because they wouldn't re-release a game you liked. What a bizarre hot take
No, it simply shows that it has no faith for The Wonderful 101, a game that had a bomb as few have seen.
They continue to collaborate for original ip with other studios, they continue to collaborate with Platinum Games and W101 does not have enough fans to care for Nintendo in the least.
"fan favorite".
I wish The Wonderful 101 sold anything close to that.
I'm a big fan of TW101 but let's not get carried away here.
Nintendo has been doing a great job of releasing new IP this generation and working closely with 3rd party partners to develop content. That they trusted the likes of Tecmo Koei for example, with a mainline Fire Emblem title speaks volumes. And I won't get started on Smash.
Frankly, The Wonderful 101 isn't a fan favourite. It has a cult following on the internet at best. This just shows Nintendo have no faith in this IP in particular, not new IP, taking risks or working with partner publishers/studios.
I like to see how PlatinumGames markets this. They had issues with how Nintendo marketed W101. Tho that demo they released was awful
>nintendo didn't want to do the port but allows platinum to port the game and self publish it
>"this makes nintendo look bad"
era can be so weird sometimes.
>"this makes nintendo look bad"
era can be so weird sometimes.
Honestly, I think TW101 was a far bigger market failure than most of us realize. Which is saying something, because it's pretty apparent this game was a huge disappointment commercially.
Nonsense.
- They funded the game in the first place and let Kamiya do his thing with Nintendos usual input.
- They trust PG so much, that they are funding 2 Bayonetta sequels, which nobody else wanted. Also we got Astral Chain
- Unlike other big publishers, they sold the IP back to PG. They could have been dicks and just say no, but they didn't.
- "Fan favourite game" is a bit of a hyperbole for a game that sold bad, even for Wii U standards. A passionate and loud fanbase for sure, but that's like funding a new Shenmue for 100 Millions. There are other games that would need that money
Now that Cupcake is saying it's true I'm willing to believe it. I don't know HOW it makes sense yet, but hey, this is why I don't talk about most shit I hear in the first place.
It's not hard not to have confidence in platinum. I know other people who worked on previous games of theirs who say they're really hard to work with because they need constant supervision, so if you're the kind of publisher who thinks it's a good thing to give people money and come back in two years, you're going to be displeased with the results.
Also Nintendo has no "trust" in the developer that just developed Astral Chain for them and is working on Bayo 3.
Embarrassing takes itt - not that it should be surprising.
The game bombed so hard I don't see it happening. It wasn't a good game.
I don't see how this is a bad thing. For Nintendo, or Platinum, or anyone else.
The alternative was the IP being stuck in Nintendo's vault until the end of time and nothing being done with it; sharing space with Eternal Darkness and Codename STEAM. At we have a chance for more people to play it, and hey, Nintendo gets something out of it to. Win-win.
The alternative was the IP being stuck in Nintendo's vault until the end of time and nothing being done with it; sharing space with Eternal Darkness and Codename STEAM. At we have a chance for more people to play it, and hey, Nintendo gets something out of it to. Win-win.
TBH, I'm not sure you could really do a good demo for W101. The gameplay relies so heavily with how the story progresses, and that's before getting into all the strange and fun detours it takes to shake up the formula throughout. A demo could only ever give you an idea of how the combat flow normally goes, but that's the extent of it.
People here get so into their feelings about games/devs they like
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