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Gamesradar: 'I have seen Death Stranding at Gamescom and I finally understand what's going on'
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Leaning towards a AAA survival game for me. The sleeping and pissing kind of pushed me towards a survival game.
We also have not seen all the mechanics the game has to offer, but I feel their will be some form of crafting and eating too.
We also have not seen all the mechanics the game has to offer, but I feel their will be some form of crafting and eating too.
I just hope it's not simply a "walk simulator". I don't want Shenmue and I don't want this to be it either.
How dare you. The game need to be 2D sprite and roguelike first!!
They've also shown lots and lots of walking and yet people are shocked and appalled that walking is a large part of the game.
I'm intrigued as hell in this game but why does anyone that doesn't like the look of the game get characterized as a dudebro COD player? It feels like we're a few steps away from saying "Death Stranding is just too intelligent for you"
Considering that my favorite part of Shenmue II was the whole 2+ hour finale where Ryu was just walking and talking, I can genuinely say I'm pretty excited!
I'm not sure the terrain is even meant to resemble the US, even though the shape of the map does.
Edit: there is an enormous chain of mountains that are where you'd find the Rockies, though.
The Gamescom video has corresponding markers on the local terrain map and the continent map it that imply it's something like 16km across.
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Symbolic names and highly produced cutscenes are Kojima's fetish lol
I will bet anything that I will fire a gun more times in this game than I do in a normal playthrough of MGS2. Y'all are weird.
My biggest worry was that it would be narratively incomprehensible or incomplete like MGSV. Looks like that wont be the case.
My biggest worry was that it would be narratively incomprehensible or incomplete like MGSV. Looks like that wont be the case.
"Game is about walking"
ERA: "Oh no the only thing you do is walking!"
What if i told you Breath of the Wild and God Of War are also a games about walking.
Guess this site can only take things literally lmao.
ERA: "Oh no the only thing you do is walking!"
What if i told you Breath of the Wild and God Of War are also a games about walking.
Guess this site can only take things literally lmao.
"The thing that really stood out to me was just how simple this game is at its core. Metal Gear Solid is a game about walking very slowly and silently."
Maybe wait what the actual Gameplay is like.
Maybe wait what the actual Gameplay is like.
I'll have to play this game with the same mindset as RDR2. Take it slow. Take in the scenery and the world by watching with patience. The slow pace of these games can be kinda meditative.
We've clearly seen that traversal involves figuring out how to cross terrain, using gear to overcome obstacles, avoiding enemies and BTs, and cargo management
Are you really just expecting this to be "hold left stick forward" based on the gameplay that's been shown in trailers?
The funny thing is that "walking simulators" is a silly misnomer because the games labeled as such are usually interactive theatre, heavily condensed narrative in a 3D space (ie Tacoma, Firewatch, etc) so the disparaging nickname really has nothing to do with the actual content.
This actually seems like the first game to actually suit that title, since it's actually turning traversal into a simulated gameplay system
I can never tell if Kojima is a Thomas Pynchon-level lowbrow genius, or if he actually thinks these pun names are good. I'm inclined to say the former, because they routinely make me laugh. Die Hardman is still funny, months after it was revealed.
But you can't seriously believe Sony is paying Kojima the big bucks to make a game where you "only" walk around and watch a few cutscenes?
The stuff you're doing while walking around or walking towards will make 99% of the games conent and we've seen nothing outside of the ending of a smal sidequest(fetchquest).
I can break nearly every game down like this.
Breath of the Wild is also only walking around to reach a destination (Zelda). Why is this ok for zelda and not for Death Stranding? Because there's shit to do you say? Well maybe, just maybe, there's stuff to do in Death Stranding aswell... But no, Death Stranding will have nothing to do for you except walking. Just pressing the stick forward for hours with nothing happening.
I mean we know Kojima. For all we know that could be a cutscene ala mgs4
Unfortunately, what we've seen of the story and of Sam so far does not paint the picture of a character who will be engaging to go on that journey with. Uncharted uses levity and character interaction to make the quieter, less combat-filled portions of the games bearable, but a near-mute protagonist wandering alone across a wasteland won't have much of that.
And modern Kojima dialogue is so bloody awful I don't think it would be good if there WAS a lot of character interaction in the overworld.
Lol
Violence is fun in games
This doesn't sound fun
Why would i care if people considered games to be art?
There are gameplay mehanichs even on simple terrain in the gamescon gameplay. It's obvious that traversal in Death Stranding it's not simple like other open worlds.
its *because* its a Hideo Kojima game everyone convinced it'll be some subversive mad genius GOTY that people will always give the benefit of the doubt, instead of a poorly written walking game about civility and holding hands
This is a game where story is the sole life-or-death factor here. If the story doesn't work, the game falters completely.
Fooled in what way? That it won't just be a game about walking? I'm already prepared for that given we've seen gunplay, motorcycle riding and boss fights.
Yeah... That and the history Kojima has in that regard doesn't give me much confidence. But one can hope...
I wonder if they're less silly if you speak Japanese so the English names are a little less familiar, or if I'm giving him too much credit lol
For all of the worrying about spoilers that goes on nowadays, it seems like some people just want this game to be laid out for them with no mystery, or else they are not satisfied.
Edit: Also, I don't think he is saying that all this game entails is walking. Lol. That would be like saying "Basketball is one thing...buckets." Completely ignoring all of the aspects that surround that one goal. Sets, passing, dribbling, time management, fouls, etc.
Edit: Also, I don't think he is saying that all this game entails is walking. Lol. That would be like saying "Basketball is one thing...buckets." Completely ignoring all of the aspects that surround that one goal. Sets, passing, dribbling, time management, fouls, etc.
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Any game made by someone of this caliber that isn't just "shoot things" catches my attention. I have enough action games, I'm fine with something new.
Is being different for the sake of being different a plus? When AAA games don't satisfy me anymore I switch to A or AA games which are often more innovative. Death Stranding doesn't look like very interesting in terms of gameplay, different or not.
I'm ready to be a walking postman. People will try to paint it as a "walking sim" but we've already seen that there's more to it than that. And not every open world needs to have points of interest every 5 feet. Sometimes that emptiness in an open world are the best parts of it.
I have no problem with slow paced media. People are, I believe, failing to make a key distinction between games and films when it comes to the whole "arty stuff doesn't need to be violent" argument though.
Yes, there are plenty of very calm, arty films where very little really happens. They exist to make people think about concepts more than to enthrall and engross in the same way a big budget blockbuster does. HOWEVER, you need to ask yourself, "how long are these films?" because most are 2 hours or less. You sit down, you absorb yourself in them for a couple of hours then you think about them for a bit more. I highly doubt DS is going to be 2 hours long. It's probably going to be at least 25-30 and that is, I would say, a bare minimum. People have talked about beautiful, wonderful games like Journey in this thread. Again, though, that was only around 2-3 hours on a standard playthrough. Does anyone here really think DS is going to be a sub 10 hour experience?
"Walking simulators" can be beautiful and thought provoking pieces of interactive art, but can they really hold people's attention for 30 hours? BOTW was so much more than a walking simulator, and to call it one is to do it a gross injustice. I am still on the fence about DS. Not because I cannot play a game without killing something, but because I am yet to be convinced that the simple act of walking across a wilderness and restoring communications arrays, interspersed with some sneaking and some Kojima style weird shit, is going to be completely engrossing for 25-30 hours+. I would love it to be, but the writing and story being told would need to be absolutely first class for that to happen.
I won't be preordering it because I don't preorder games. I shall, however, be extremely interested in people's opinions of it when they finally get to play the whole thing. I have a feeling it could be extremely divisive.
Yes, there are plenty of very calm, arty films where very little really happens. They exist to make people think about concepts more than to enthrall and engross in the same way a big budget blockbuster does. HOWEVER, you need to ask yourself, "how long are these films?" because most are 2 hours or less. You sit down, you absorb yourself in them for a couple of hours then you think about them for a bit more. I highly doubt DS is going to be 2 hours long. It's probably going to be at least 25-30 and that is, I would say, a bare minimum. People have talked about beautiful, wonderful games like Journey in this thread. Again, though, that was only around 2-3 hours on a standard playthrough. Does anyone here really think DS is going to be a sub 10 hour experience?
"Walking simulators" can be beautiful and thought provoking pieces of interactive art, but can they really hold people's attention for 30 hours? BOTW was so much more than a walking simulator, and to call it one is to do it a gross injustice. I am still on the fence about DS. Not because I cannot play a game without killing something, but because I am yet to be convinced that the simple act of walking across a wilderness and restoring communications arrays, interspersed with some sneaking and some Kojima style weird shit, is going to be completely engrossing for 25-30 hours+. I would love it to be, but the writing and story being told would need to be absolutely first class for that to happen.
I won't be preordering it because I don't preorder games. I shall, however, be extremely interested in people's opinions of it when they finally get to play the whole thing. I have a feeling it could be extremely divisive.
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Those with nintendo avatars aren't exactly trying to hide anything. Like samurais going to battle with flags strapped to their back.
My impression of the game is still at one raised eyebrow status. Needs to see more.
Aaaaaand I'm out. Not that I was really in before, to be honest.
We both know the title of the OP has to be 'Strands Across America'. It's been so heavily telegraphed you can see it from space.
Death Stranding |OT| How many celebrities and cameos did you see in your playthru?
I'm sure the game will be great, but, once again, what a mess the communication is. Between the emphasis on story over gameplay, the embarassing cult of kojima personnality, is it exclusive or not, that's really weird.
And again, I'm sure the game will be good. But I really don't like how they're trying to sell as this ground breaking media defining definitive masterpiece of a visionnary genius.
And again, I'm sure the game will be good. But I really don't like how they're trying to sell as this ground breaking media defining definitive masterpiece of a visionnary genius.
They should cancel this and just make another shooter. You want games to be art? Well you need to support shit like this.
The only way Kojima could make a game about walking around a dead world interesting is if the walking parts are all automated so I can listen to a podcast or play another game while I wait for the dead air to be finished.
