Did u always think this or only after epic started their crusade?
Did u always think this or only after epic started their crusade?
Ah here it was:
Epic called out Google's practices towards third party software sources[...]
IGN - Article
Feels like this might have a place in the OP? Not sure. I don't think the full picture is being painted by this article though.
That would explain why the company's statement on putting Fortnite in the Google Play store, effectively ceding one front in its crusade, comes across as quite bitter. There's a real sense that Epic feels Google has acted in an underhand way, even though from an outsider's perspective it's hard to see what Google has actually done wrong. It does give security warnings when side-loading software onto Android, but that's eminently reasonable, and not dissimilar to what many operating systems do with unsigned software from unrecognised sources. It still allows side-loading and even allows other companies to run their own software distribution stores on the Android platform; it just turns out that Google Play is the one users like, trust and use, even on devices which have other stores installed from the get-go.
Preach. Steam must be offering a lot of value to justify some of those phat checks handed out.Note that on PC, Epic had to pay developers/publishers huge sums of money upfront in order to get them to stop letting Valve take a 30% cut in exchange for everything Steam offers.
They have them by the balls and epic have zero leverage.I know, but in that case it would make more sense to complain about them, instead of only complain about Google.
Hit the nail on the head, while it was good for devs but really mostly pubs, it was a worse experience in every way for the customer both on the pc and the phone and 95% of customers probably more dont even know about the percentage splits between the parties and even less care. Most people who play games, hell most people who do anything care only about price and user experience. Not everyone is Sweeney. They did nothing good in either of those places. Instead they actually made people like them less by taking stuff away from the choice of things they do like. They literally made it worse for people.
Yeah, for business sometimes growth is more important than profit.i feel like this seems like a EGS exclusive game that comes to Steam after a period of time. First, EGS places Fortnite outside of the Play Store, soaks up the revenue that it gets without any cut to others, then once they saturate the market and consumers who sideload it(its fucking Fortnite, one of the most successful and popular games in the world), they go to Play Store, take the 30% cut but gain whatever marketing or whatnot from there.
In that sense, it probably worked out fine for Epic. Same reasoning for the EGS exclusives maybe? It depends, does the money gained from the cut from ppl buying it override the financial incentives given to devs/publishers? Probably not, but who knows. We'll see if they keep up the EGS exclusives.
Amazon had second biggest Android store and users to sell those apps to and yet failed.
You don't think deals are made for certain games that reduce that cut from 30%?That is in reference to store cuts, not publisher contracts.
iOS, Google Play, PSN, Xbox Live, eShop and Steam all charge a 30% cut.
Yes I do think other deals are agreed, I've discussed that elsewhere in the thread.You don't think deals are made for certain games that reduce that cut from 30%?
I'd be surprised if Epic is paying 30% on the google store.
It's completely on-brand for Tim Sweeney.Epic Games complaining about evil monopolies and then refusing to make a Linux version of a game that runs on a Linux compatible engine will never stop being the funniest shit ever
It's the same 5 folks on their own anti-Epic crusade posting these types of threads. I'm glad to see the actual subsequent discussion is far less sensational and "hot-takey" these days. Coincidentally, the post counts in these crusades are shrinking as less and less numbers of people are truly bothered enough by Epic to care.
It's the same 5 folks on their own anti-Epic crusade posting these types of threads. I'm glad to see the actual subsequent discussion is far less sensational and "hot-takey" these days. Coincidentally, the post counts in these crusades are shrinking as less and less numbers of people are truly bothered enough by Epic to care.
In any case, I'm sorry for the above snark and for being dickish. At the very least, thank you for posting the story. OP, you have tended to be one of the more reasonable when it comes to this stuff.
As to the article at hand, this whole endeavor has been about Epic trying to maximize profit, regardless of how "altruistic" they claim to be. Google Play, a product that is also about maximizing profit, told Epic to stuff it. Epic relents because it's worth more to them to get Fortnite mobile into as many hands as possible. Case closed.
I guess it's more about three things:It's the same 5 folks on their own anti-Epic crusade posting these types of threads. I'm glad to see the actual subsequent discussion is far less sensational and "hot-takey" these days. Coincidentally, the post counts in these crusades are shrinking as less and less numbers of people are truly bothered enough by Epic to care.
It's all that the pro egs people could muster for an argument and it was wrong from the start. None of this is surprising especially the lack of a foothold that epic made with their stores.The crusade is against steam. Framing it like they were trying to change the cut for the whole industry is absurd.