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Mahonay

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,316
Pencils Vania
They need additional funding to issue refunds?
How can we give you refunds if we have no employees?
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uzipukki

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,722
But the real Amico is the friends we made along the way ❤️
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,118
Hopefully "license the IP" means they license a few of the games for someone to release on Steam. It's what I've been rooting for all along.
 

scitek

Member
Oct 27, 2017
10,054
How did Tallarico get involved with this? Is he still doing VG Live, or did COVID kill that?
 

Billfisto

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,919
Canada
How did Tallarico get involved with this? Is he still doing VG Live, or did COVID kill that?

He was "friends" (unclear what their actual relationship was, Tommy has a history of referring to basically everyone he's ever come in contact with as a friend) with the previous owner of the Intellivision property. They were apparently talking about releasing a new console (as relayed by Tommy, but, again, he has a history of embellishment and self-aggrandizing), but the guy passed away and then Tommy bought up all the rights and everything and installed himself as CEO.

It turns out that manchild 90's composers don't make good CEOs and he spent most of the time arguing online and augering the company into the dirt. He's since "stepped down" to a Creative Officer position and disappeared entirely from any Amico communication and the internet in general.

VGL did suffer and stop doing shows due to Covid, but have done a show or two in the last few months, and he seems to be entirely focused on that now.
 

rdaneel72

Member
Oct 27, 2017
316
I hate the way the Intellivision name has been dragged because of this fiasco. I don't know what they were thinking. Their entire premise was identical to the Wii's 15 years ago, and that ship has sailed.

They should've just made a mini INTV console that played all those old games on an HDTV. I'm always down for some Astrosmash or Night Stalker, but the originals, not new versions.

Keith Robinson is surely rolling over in his grave.
 

IrishNinja

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
9,837
Vice City
legit don't know what happened to tommy talarico

games live concerned years back were a blast, his music in the game industry was solid for its time too

this has just been such a mess, with nothing to show for it
 

demondance

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,808
Scammy console-ish android based whatevers come out all the time. Makes it pretty clear that the whole business model here was to pay a bunch of execs, rather than to quickly deliver the inevitably crap product at a profit.
 

poptire

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
9,971
Do they own the Earthworm Jim license? That might explain how EWJ2 randomly ended up on NSO.
 

Stef

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,403
Rome, Italy, Planet Earth
Hopefully "license the IP" means they license a few of the games for someone to release on Steam. It's what I've been rooting for all along.

Now, imagine this: they license some of their IPs to a developer who publishes a nice game on other platforms.

Now... with a good version of that game on a machine I already own why would I want to buy a console for a version of the same game developed with ideally a WAY lower budget?

It makes no sense at all.

Also, in 2022 on a home console how long would you play something like this?

 

Billfisto

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,919
Canada
Do they own the Earthworm Jim license? That might explain how EWJ2 randomly ended up on NSO.

Nope, Interplay still has it, Intellivision was just licensing it.

Well, ostensibly licensing it. It's pretty clear no actual work was done on the game and it mostly "existed" to add a "big name" to entice potential investors and fans.
 

demondance

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,808
One of their major problems was that they had way too many employees.

It was CEO role-play for Tommy, so he insisted on opening (at least) three offices and furnishing and staffing them in the middle of a pandemic.

Their structure was also incredibly top-heavy, with dozens of executive-level roles siphoning up money, renting space to themselves, hiring their family members, or just lending the company their name for money without actually doing any work.

Last paragraph here is the entirety of the scam, I think. This is what they're hoping to get away with. I really don't think it's much more complex than that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure a lot of Tallarico's "delusional" habits were always part of the scam. Courting desperate 50 year old gaming youtubers with 3 views per video stinks to me like he was trying to leave a trail that the whole endeavor was actually for real. Leaving a mess for the inevitable lawsuits to be forced to untangle.

I don't think this was ever much more than some moderately wealthy people deciding on gaming crowdfunding as a novel sector to bilk out of some cash in a very simple way.

Even if they do get successfully sued, how do you possibly figure out who I responsible? There are dozens of people who were pretty much being paid to do nothing, on top of paying company funds to themselves via renting corporate space they owned, etc.

They already got away with it, pretty much.

What I really despise about this situation is that people lost their jobs and I still see comments like "Great news!".

Pathetic.

I doubt many people worked for this company in good faith outside of maybe some random contractors who did the small amount of actual game development.
 
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Lkr

Member
Oct 28, 2017
9,507
I didn't realize tommy was out…how much humor/drama was there around his departure?
also why lay people off? they should close shop
 

Billfisto

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,919
Canada
who the hell is this console even for?

"If you think about it, there's 200 million hardcore gamers in the world. We're going to let Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo, and now Google, fight for those 200 million gamers. For us, there's three billion gamers. They just don't call themselves gamers, they play their phone every day. The reality is, they're 55 percent of the entire $140 billion dollar industry."
 

BarcaTheGreat

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
4,041
"If you think about it, there's 200 million hardcore gamers in the world. We're going to let Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo, and now Google, fight for those 200 million gamers. For us, there's three billion gamers. They just don't call themselves gamers, they play their phone every day. The reality is, they're 55 percent of the entire $140 billion dollar industry."
Holy shit... Ya delusion of grandeur.
 

zashga

Losing is fun
Member
Oct 28, 2017
4,192
Every Amico tweet, positive or negative, has such low engagement. Like low double digits at most. Intellivision should just make a few dozen units and call it done; no need to mass produce.
 

Tobor

Member
Oct 25, 2017
28,421
Richmond, VA
"If you think about it, there's 200 million hardcore gamers in the world. We're going to let Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo, and now Google, fight for those 200 million gamers. For us, there's three billion gamers. They just don't call themselves gamers, they play their phone every day. The reality is, they're 55 percent of the entire $140 billion dollar industry."

"How can we sell these people a worse phone than they already have, but in a shitty box they have to hook up to their TV, and charge them more for worse games than the ones they can play for free on the phones they already have?

I give you...The Amico."
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,035
Every Amico tweet, positive or negative, has such low engagement. Like low double digits at most. Intellivision should just make a few dozen units and call it done; no need to mass produce.
Yeah I always amazed by this, even when Tommy and crew say the right buzzwords for the chud crew, shit still struggles for triple digit. Funny thing is Pat and Ian of CUPodcast biggest numbers come from Amico news and they do 20k regularly on it
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,035
"If you think about it, there's 200 million hardcore gamers in the world. We're going to let Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo, and now Google, fight for those 200 million gamers. For us, there's three billion gamers. They just don't call themselves gamers, they play their phone every day. The reality is, they're 55 percent of the entire $140 billion dollar industry."
Forgot the part where he calls out Nintendo for selling porn
 

Billfisto

Member
Oct 30, 2017
14,919
Canada
Every Amico tweet, positive or negative, has such low engagement. Like low double digits at most. Intellivision should just make a few dozen units and call it done; no need to mass produce.

It's funny that Intellivision has just basically abandoned their official Twitter, too. Truly the sign of a thriving company.

It really hammers home that Tommy was just handling the official Twitter, too.

At the very least they could do the standard "What's your favorite Intellivision game?" engagement bait, or just queue up a bunch of Intellivision trivia or screenshots or whatever, but they can't even be bothered to do that.
 

finaljedi

Member
Jul 15, 2018
519
Cincinnati, OH
"How can we sell these people a worse phone than they already have, but in a shitty box they have to hook up to their TV, and charge them more for worse games than the ones they can play for free on the phones they already have?

I give you...The Amico."

They couldn't even do the Ouya thing in making their console a hell of a lot cheaper. This thing was the same price as a Switch or a Series S... They want $339 for this fucking thing, it was a hard pass at $250.

It's kind of funny, Tommy shit on literally everyone else, from accusing Nintendo of selling child sex games to dunking on the other little upstart console failures like the Ouya. He couldn't even reach the lofty heights of the Ouya, which shipped a couple hundred thousand units. The Amico is a little more legitimate than the Coleco Chameleon in that there are hand built Amicos that play games made for them.
 

Grassy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,051
The investors and people who preordered are cooked, they aren't getting their money back now..."oh gee we sacked most of our staff and now have no-one to process all the refund requests lol!"

How fucking convenient...

It's almost like the entire thing's been one huge scam from the beginning! 😲
 

Slayven

Never read a comic in his life
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
93,035
The investors and people who preordered are cooked, they aren't getting their money back now..."oh gee we sacked most of our staff and now have no-one to process all the refund requests lol!"

How fucking convenient...

It's almost like the entire thing's been one huge scam from the beginning! 😲
There is a guy they took a loan from, in return they promised him the first 100 dollars from every amico sold.
 

TheChrisGlass

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,605
Los Angeles, CA
What I find fascinating is that even if we go with the assumption they're telling the truth, that the hardware is delayed, that shouldn't affect the software.
The games ideally should be done and finished, at least the initial batch. The fact that not one single component of this is complete and done is the biggest red flag to me.
Not that they don't have legitimate devs, but because there's no pressure on them to finish. The executives need to have employees working constantly to justify their positions.

I still remember one place I was at, a startup from an ex-designer at a studio that made a high profile PSP title in a certain Sony series about a god.
He secured funding initially from a mom and son in Atlanta and it was to design an AI-driven football game, but with betting. Whatever, it was interesting AI work for me and I got to learn Unity on the job. But I remember he hired his father-in-law to play World of Warcraft all day. Literally paid his father-in-law to play WoW. The idea was that he'd be in a clan of the company's name, so when the company went public with the name there would automatically be a bunch of fans. It was the dumbest, most corrupt idea I've ever heard someone seriously explain to me. Needless to say, the VC pulled their funding when they found out they only owned the game they were funding, and not the entire studio, and the company quickly collapsed after that.
 

panda-zebra

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,736
"Are your parents still alive?"

That video compilation of Tallarico using this manipulative, hideous, nostalgia-wringing play, time and time again, was probably the thing I'll remember the longest from this whole sorry saga, yes even more so than "gaming racists".

He's not just a narcassist, he showed he's pretty fucking devious with it. What a combo.