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Gamescom communicates on COVID19, not cancelled but prepared to any situation
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Maybe not the events themselves but I can imagine to be very tight and limited restrictions on public viewership. We just now get first reports that these affected by the virus might sustain longer-term lung damage even if fully cured otherwise. If that turns out to be true on a large-scale level protecting people has the upmost priority beyond normalcy and economy. Honestly most of us have comfortable homes and access to food and water, we have the internet and TV and friends and family. Economy aside is it really that bad to play it safe for a while?
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The issue is the "economy aside". They won't cancel sports events, which are massive money maker and essentials to the economy of any country, for the next year and a half. It'd ruin any country.
Gamescom being cancelled isnt a big deal but like people gotta be realist, the world can't afford to stop any activity for this long.
I understand the idea but the scale is completely wrong. We won't need to prohibit big gathering one year from now, it just won't serve any purpose. Unless the virus mutates in strange ways (then we'll see), it will be contained way before end of 2021.
People won't have comfortable homes if they can't afford to pay rent/mortgage because they lost their jobs as a result of everything but the bare essential industries being shut down for over a year.
Yea for sure. It's mostly for picking up most of the sweat, but the controllers definitely are not clean.
I truly hope you two are right and I don't want to fearmonger. I'm just scared for my family, friends and myself because we all aren't exactly healthy to the point we could say we will be fine if we get the virus. And then there's this new development of long-term lung damage that goes through German media as of this morning.
This is also a good point, you're right, that will be a tough thing to balance worldwide. If there's anything to be learned from this, situations like this need to be taken much more seriously much quicker on a global scale.
Yeah, it's not happening. August appears far away for now but the situation will be developing for several months. I also find the Olympics impossible to happen as well.
No massive events should happen until the virus is killed or there's a treatment and vaccine. Otherwise you'll find yourself in the same situation as of two months ago. Some countries wouldn't be able to handle another outbreak in fall.
No, that's not what they "basically" said. The situation will get better and progress will be made, I truly believe that, but when our own health minister Jens Spahn and leading experts say that the crisis has a good chance of persisting until the end of 2020, then these words should be taken serious and we should do everything possible to prevent this. We shouldn't pour oil into a fire, especially with events like Gamescom, which has upwards of 200,000 participants from various parts of the world. Such an event could reignite a pandemic and make it much worse.
Also, you are confusing herd immunity with flattening the curve, because the latter is the reason as to why why have containment/quarantine.
I agree. Honestly I think the best way we could have handled this would have been back in February when the first cases cropped up outside of China, the whole world should have gone into a coordinated lockdown mode for public-life with curfews for non-essential things for a month, two at most. I'm sure even the economy as a whole would rather have had one or two months of predictable damage than X months of unpredictable damage.
And the extreme containment might not last that long, as such, we shouldn't create panic by cancelling events so far upfront.
Flattening the curve still implies people getting sick and creating a healthy base of people who can't get sick anymore.
How would people get sick slower if we send just ten undetected infected people into the Gamescom halls with thousands of people? It will all spiral out of control again just like if you have just one infected person at a big sports event right now.
Infected numbers will only slow down because of all the social distancing measures we take right now. Numbers of newly infected slowing down doesn't mean we can cancel all those measures immediatly and return back to normal.
And by August we're (hopefully) not close to infect the 70% of population that would be needed for herd immunity. If that actually happens there will be many healthcare systems overwhelmed and many more deaths.
Because by that time, of those 200.000 people, 100.000 people could already have had it. All depends on how many mild cases aren't being found right now.
Greed. They could even rent more space, but that would cost money. Its like everything else in cologne, incompetence to the hightest degree.
The containment is far from being "extreme" and it's currently absolutely neccessary. I'm also not panicking, at all. I'm following the recommendations of being alert and having an event like this certainly rings the bells, considering the current situation and the info that is available to us.
I don't think you understand what herd immunity means and what it would take to achieve that. Just because a healthy base can't get sick, it doesn't mean that others can't get sick either, unless that healthy base is practically everyone.
Just a reminder that it took 1 person to cause a pandemic.
I find it seriously worrying how many still think this situation will be over with soonish. In my opinion large-scale public events should only be allowed to happen again once three things are achieved:
1: Having a treatment against the virus to some degree
2: Have a vaccine ready at large
3: The medium-term effects of people affected by it are researched and documented.
1: Having a treatment against the virus to some degree
2: Have a vaccine ready at large
3: The medium-term effects of people affected by it are researched and documented.
I wouldn't be surprised if we have a couple of false starts were numbers start to settle down and people try to go about life as usual only to see things spike upward again. People think this is just going to blow over.
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised either, this is something we as a species have to sit out properly. I know it won't happen but I still have hope that something else we learn from this is that it's not a good idea to have a large part of the economy tied to one country/area like we have right now with China and Asia to some degree.
And also that it's important to have a proper, long-term backup plan for economy and people should people be unable to go to work on a global or even just national scale where public events also simply can't happen. Too much of our system relies on things going absolutely issue-free to a large degree and when something like the Coronavirus happens everyone is unsure what to do and we need normalcy back or things collapse, that's not a good look.
Plus the Coronavirus is actually still quite tame all things considered, people should just imagine for a second if something with a truly high mortality rate would show up. Corona is a warning-shot towards our economy and I hope we take it seriously.
i think people are in for a rude awakening if they expect this whole thing to be over by august..
besides that, gamescom is awful as a normal visitor. i was there 2014, it was just awfully packed, can´t even imagine how packed this was last year for example. there are huge glass fronts in the building and when the sun is shining (which is 95% the case in august) the whole building is hot. it is just no fun at all when you don´t have a journalist card because when you have you can visit it a day or two before the public does.
besides that, gamescom is awful as a normal visitor. i was there 2014, it was just awfully packed, can´t even imagine how packed this was last year for example. there are huge glass fronts in the building and when the sun is shining (which is 95% the case in august) the whole building is hot. it is just no fun at all when you don´t have a journalist card because when you have you can visit it a day or two before the public does.
Yeah, agreed. So many people saying we'll know more in a few months, or whatever. If there's any chance of a few sick people going into a crowd of 200K and spreading it, the thing should be cancelled.
I don't blame Gamescom for not cancelling this early, because why would they, but there do seem to be a lot of naive people who think some magical unidentifiable shift will happen in the next couple weeks.
Yeah I'm also not blaming them not cancelling yet but people should expect it getting cancelled moreso than not. Even a single person dying from this is a person too much.
Koelnmesse has now cancelled all trade fairs through the end of June 2020:
The decision regarding gamescom is still up in the air
Three of the twelve events affected have been moved to the fall, which leaves very little room to manoeuvre (if any).
The decision regarding gamescom is still up in the air
Fucking cancel that shit. I was at Gamescom for 3 years straight and it got worse every year and felt like chicken in a chicken coop.
This is a photo I took.
Have fun with that.
Yep, no way that is happening without a vaccine in place
Fucking cancel that shit. I was at Gamescom for 3 years straight and it got worse every year and felt like chicken in a chicken coop.
This is a photo I took.
Have fun with that.
Whenever we finally make it through this, I honestly expect there will be new regulations that ban this kind of event, whether there is a current outbreak or not. We've known about diseases being spread at conventions for years, though obviously nothing remotely as serious as what we're dealing with now. Maximum occupancy for these convention centers will likely be severly reduced.