gamescom 2019: Opening Night Live |OT| A HIDEO KOJIMA CONFERENCE

[Deleted member 8861]

I really like the lo-fi gameplay. And peeing. I like Kojima's insistence on not making action the focus, here.

And I'd be really, seriously excited for the storytelling ideas that pregnancy becoming a nigh-universal experience could bring, especially for male characters. However, even though I can see the point in it and did enjoy it for what it is, Mama's characterization is disappointing. She's bound to where she is because she has a baby. Oh and she had 2 minutes for her character depiction and we just had to learn she lactates in that timeframe. Something tells me Kojima isn't interested in nuanced depictions of gender here.

When she was introduced I thought she was affectionately called Mama because in the BRIDGES headquarters or whatever she provided support and perhaps leadership and guidance to everyone.

But no, she's a literal mom and apparently that's character-defining in a game where everybody's supposed to be carrying around babies.

I mean, I still like her character in isolation, but the boob grab and the way she was portrayed here makes her character a hard sell. It put a damper on the rest.

 

[John Frost]

Oh wrong word, I meant this constant "marketing campaign". The micro phases of gameplay are running in circles, Geoff is too much there. Personal opinion.

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Oh, alrighty then.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Do people realize the 'wake up sheeple' act doesn't actually make you look smart?

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How am I saying "wake up sheeple"? I just find a pissing mechanic getting applause and called genius by some here kinda ridiculous. But you do you. Let's see what else kind of genius Kojima has in store for us. I will be ashamed of my words and deeds yet again.

 

[NinjaScooter]

Nah, it's just the next stage of this nonsense. We already have pissing getting applause, might as well take the next step. When someone jokes Kojima could literally deliver a turd and people would applaud, they weren't too far off it seems.

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Gamer crowds applaud all sorts of weird and morbid shit. You are reading way too much into it. It got applause because it was the first bit of gameplay shown and because gamers cheer at immature shit sometimes.

 

[TheModestGun]

Nah, the term is solidly associated with that subsection. Trying to make a distinction now is useless.
He's japanese, so people can just... look away, I guess.

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Lol literally it fucking isn't dude. Its become a negative association I'll give you that, but that doesn't have to be its only insinuation. Especially not in a fictional piece of work.

 

[Bate]

It is strange that for me the best things were those that didn't happen. I was afraid that many promising games would go the dark Epic path. But Iron Harvest, Everspace 2 and so on seem safe.

 

[yellow wallpaper]

Kerbal 2 was the game of the show for me.

 

[cw_sasuke]

Kojima: Here's Norman Reedus pissing and delivering boxes to a Geoff Keighley Watchtower

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lol

 

[Mik317]

I get that, but I don't see how you can still be sold purely off of name when what we've see so far has looked as dull as it does. But hey, to each their own.

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most people are in it for Kojima's wacky ride and so far it seems to deliver on that aspect. MGSV was a fanstastic GAME but lacked many of said wacky dumb dumb bullshit IMO. This seems to take the gameplay of MGSV and put in some weird dumb nonsense that Kojima fans, like myself, enjoy...and thats enough to be "hype".

You don't have to be hyped if its not hitting for you...I don't get the crowd that seems annoyed that it is appealing to them right now...wait for release and most if not all of your answers will be there. You don't have to buy it day 1...or even year 1...or even at all.

 

[Deleted member 37233]

But... it hasn't. The premise looks way more interesting than every other AAA game

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It always sounds like it would make for a pretty good movie.

 

[Billfisto]

Geoff's weird fixation on Kojima is getting really creepy.

They don't seem like casual buddies at all. Weird Renfield energy coming off Geoff.

 

[sabertoothzombie]

We've already seen both melee and gun combat in the last gameplay trailer so I'm not sure why you think there's not going to be any combat.

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pretty sure they mean Outer Wilds*

 

[ANDS]

Yeah, a buddy who happens to run a couple of major gaming shows. Not a good look, for me.

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Dick Clark produced a ton of awards shows and knew a ton of celebrities. Wasn't a problem there.

 

[DarkFlame92]

Holy crap,not even Cyberpunk 2077 footage. That hurts

 

[peppersky]

I get that, but I don't see how you can still be sold purely off of name when what we've see so far has looked as dull as it does. But hey, to each their own.

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People are totally fucking obsessed with Kojima. Like more than with any other single person in the gaming industry. I cannot count the number of times I've read "Hideo Kojima is gamings first true auter". He made like 3 good games, it's pretty damn ridiculous.

 

[Hooper]

He slipped up and said "if everyone pees in the same spot"...did I miss this previously, or can we assume players are connected online connecting "strands" together? Something like all player progress in their game and then progress globally to another goal? Kinda of like the base building component of MG5.

This while strands genre has me super intrigued. Sounds like their is an online component that involves a global goal. At least that is what I'm taking away

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They also showed a map of the US... Quick, are there any Konami offices in the US? What if every player pisses on Konami... at the same time

 

[Sephzilla]

Death Stranding |OT| Piss Tape Is Real

 

[Deleted member 37233]

Holy crap,not even Cyberpunk 2077 footage. That hurts

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Cyberpunk was at Stadia.

 

[vestan]

Conference End

 

[Sparks]

Yeah, a buddy who happens to run a couple of major gaming shows. Not a good look, for me.

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I mean, it was already fucked even without him being in it. I agree with you, it's like now Death Stranding HAS To win GOTY... like there is literally no other option right?

 

[Professor RAWR]

Kerbal 2 was the game of the show for me.

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Just saw the trailer.... one of the greatest trailers i've ver seen hahaha. I want NOW

 

[Betty]

Why was Sam crying when he was delivering that package? Like when he got levitated. He was crying. Hes always crying

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It's a reaction to the supernatural stuff, he can't control it, it's not an emotional response.

Think of it like goosebumps on the skin from cold, it just happens.

 

[Komo]

It just doesn't feel right that a 'celebrity journalist' is in the game, and it's being promoted on their major platform. I dont' think it really needs it, to be honest. The game looks good enough on its own.

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It's the guy whos been behind Kojima for almost his entire career. I don't see the problem

 

[Rosebud]

Man, i love how amazing Kojima fans are at arguing in bad faith and with strawmen too.

"This didn't look good at all"

gets turned into "omg, you walk awhike without killing and explosions, what bad game" strawman, to make themselves look super smart and important.

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It goes the other way

"I'm hyped for this game"

"why you are treating kojima like a god, you know it's terrible"

your taste isn't universal

 

[s y]

Dang this show was dogshit.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

That was so weird but I'm still 100% down. The visuals were amazing. The effects and the sound effects just as he was being scanned in that little outpost gave me tingles. Some crazy ass shit is going down in this game. Kojima is 100% holding back.

But yeah that was like wtf

 

[Sedated]

Weird af but also somehow the most enjoyable showing at this conference and it'll easily be the most talked about as well. Marketing done right!

I expected a boss fight or exploration with BTs appearing and norman fighting but this whacky stuff came out of nowhere lol. That was quite good.

 

[Deleted member 16876]

This was a waste of time.

Only things I got excited for is Erica and Death Stranding.

 

[Deleted member 2791]

Surprisingly liked a lot this conference.

 

[Knight in Shining Armani]

That was kinda boring, but I watched the Easy Allies reaction stream so that helps.

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Yeah, if I had watched that directly I would've been bored out of my mind.

 

[ANDS]

pretty sure they mean Outer Wilds*

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The person they are responding to meant Outer Wilds, but the individual you are responding to meant Death Stranding.

 

[Betty]

I mean, it was already fucked even without him being in it. I agree with you, it's like now Death Stranding HAS To win GOTY... like there is literally no other option right?

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Death Stranding literally needs to bomb harder than Crackdown 3 critically and commercially for that to be even be a remote possibility.

And according to insiders the pre-orders are set to make this the highest selling Kojima gave ever.

 

[ArjanN]

How am I saying "wake up sheeple"? I just find a pissing mechanic getting applause and called genius by some here kinda ridiculous. But you do you. Let's see what else kind of genius Kojima has in store for us. I will be ashamed of my words and deeds yet again.

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I'm just pointing out that trying to frame you just not liking a thing as somehow being above it and that the people who do like as dumb, just makes you look pedantic and lame.

 

[Lockheartilly9799]

The OT was the literal truth lol

 

[Yoshichan]

Ffvii remake booth recordings anywhere???

 

[Gigamear]

did geoff tweet that square enix was supposed to be there?

 

[Shryke]

Was totally all in for the Death Stranding segment. Highlight of this show. The game's coming in a couple months. Really can't wait.

 

[sabertoothzombie]

The person they are responding to meant Outer Wilds, but the individual you are responding to meant Death Stranding.

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Yeah, that's what I was going for, sorry

 

[Bedlam]

That's fine, but what I can't stand is the complete and utter dismissal of anyone having any part in the game outside of Kojima and his celebrity buddies. There was literally no mention of the team back in Japan who are sacrificing just as much if not more than Kojima to get the game finished; it's all just him because he's 'the boss'.

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He sells the game, which also helps the team. I think everyone there understands this. Rock bands have their front man, too, but in the end the whole band benefits.

Also, Kojima has always given credit to his team(s) and developers. Lead artists became known along with him etc.

 

[TheUnseenTheUnheard]

Is there a real argument for journalistic integrity here?

 

[Kindekuma]

I don't understand it. You put out these incredibly enigmatic and rather cryptic trailers and the moment you step on stage and get asked to show gameplay (when it comes out in 3 months) you immediately go "Well, I'd rather show it at TGS!"

And then that? Pissing, a Geoff cameo, and comforting BB? Get outta here

 

[LookAtMeGo]

did geoff tweet that square enix was supposed to be there?

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Life is Strange 2

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Gamer crowds applaud all sorts of weird and morbid shit. You are reading way too much into it. It got applause because it was the first bit of gameplay shown and because gamers cheer at immature shit sometimes.

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You mean they could have shown anything and it would have gotten applause if it was the first thing they would see? But a lot of games elicit a worse reaction or none at all from the general gaming crowd when first shown. Remember Lawbreakers? Battleborn? Or half of the stuff shown today?
But those games weren't made by Kojima I guess. This sums it up pretty well:

Kojima: Here's Norman Reedus pissing and delivering boxes to a Geoff Keighley Watchtower

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[NateDrake]

I mean, it was already fucked even without him being in it. I agree with you, it's like now Death Stranding HAS To win GOTY... like there is literally no other option right?

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If it happens, people will call Keighley out. If it doesn't happen, then people will claim the friendship is the reason why. He should have refused the cameo appearance -- especially since he has been a huge marketing factor for the game since it was announced. Now it all looks shady.

 

[Deleted member 721]

new stuff only from small studios, and big studios only had games that we had a good ammount of footage already with nothing that excited me, i dindt liked it overall, it was not great to me.

 

[NinjaScooter]

Is there a real argument for journalistic integrity here?

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the integrity of the "VGA"s is at stake here. Gamers cannot stand for this.

 

[Error 52]

Is there a real argument for journalistic integrity here?

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It's the TGAs who gives a shit

 

[Lotus]

People who hate this are why games can literally be nothing but Call of Duty.

Fuck those hundreds of indie devs and smaller developers doing unique things with the medium, Kojima is the only one who can make games that aren't part of the status quo. Those other games don't count!

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Lol right, it's such a dumb argument lol

 

[Edge]

I hurts my head trying to think what people want out of a Kojima game... like you go to Kojima games for the intense gameplay mechanics? There are so many game/shooters ect out there, I'd take this any day.

I want to be shook.

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Not enough isometric Diablo action game clones or mediocre multiplayer gaas attempts or reboots, the people want more of that.

 

[Mik317]

I don't understand it. You put out these incredibly enigmatic and rather cryptic trailers and the moment you step on stage and get asked to show gameplay (when it comes out in 3 months) you immediately go "Well, I'd rather show it at TGS!"

And then that? Pissing, a Geoff cameo, and comforting BB? Get outta here

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you do understand that these info drops are planned in advance right?

Two character trailers and a Geoff reveal fits this setting. And TGS IIRC is the last big show before release.

 

[Westbahnhof]

the integrity of the "VGA"s is at stake here. Gamers cannot stand for this.

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Everybody knows Gaming-related awards are no joking matter. Looooads of people going to prison for that display today...