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Games with the biggest graphical highs and lows
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Yeah, it is honestly a really interesting topic, lol. I think we need a thread with the best and worst market fruit baskets.
These are photos of my OLED, with 76 running on the Xbox One X (so a photo of a screen). Even with the obvious decrease in detail I still think that Fallout 76 has incredible IQ. I haven't seen jaggie on this game and everything looks very sharp. (LOD and pop-in = yes, in the distance, but jaggies? Zero)
However, NPCs faces and animations are still Xbox 360-era. (Its a good thing people wear healmets and masks in a post apocalyptic world)
It's a little bit on the older side, but I remember Oblivion sometimes looking like straight ass compared to how good it looked when it released lol
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This game looks so visually poor in general I don't even want to play it
These are photos of my OLED, with 76 running on the Xbox One X (so a photo of a screen). Even with the obvious decrease in detail I still think that Fallout 76 has incredible IQ. I haven't seen jaggie on this game and everything looks very sharp. (LOD and pop-in = yes, in the distance, but jaggies? Zero)
However, NPCs faces and animations are still Xbox 360-era. (Its a good thing people wear healmets and masks in a post apocalyptic world)
What does IQ mean? I keep seeing it but can't find anything on google related to video game graphics.
From what I noticed (after someone else pointed it out), there seems to be no LOD transitions at all. For instance, low poly/detail objects from a distance appear exactly the same when viewed up close. Texture loading issues are also common but in my experience, they load fairly quick. The problem is the loaded textures still end up looking really bad and low res in many instances.
Image Quality
Image Quality. In my post I meant it as an overall "clean and cohesive image"
- There are no jaggies
- There is no blur/artificial sharpness
- Shadows are not pixelated-low res
- You dont see any obvious artifacts
- Good texture filtering
- There is minimal LOD / Pop-In evidence (it should exist, but it shouldnt be close to you, open worlds will keep suffering from this)
May I add The Crew 2 to the list? The game has got huge open world and very nice car models. But the detailing of the open world is so badly done, makes me question the skill of the artists who were responsible for this. You've got tiled textures everywhere which are not broken up by any decals so buildings appear flat, boring and just simple. From afar you can see the actual texture tiles on the buildings. Also some areas outside cities actually look like out-of-bounds areas.
It's shocking for a big budget AAA game. Overall, visuals represent some sort of weird of blend of PS2 and PS4 technology.
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It's shocking for a big budget AAA game. Overall, visuals represent some sort of weird of blend of PS2 and PS4 technology.
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FF 7 Remake was like a roller coaster of ups and downs. Starts out strong, then the middle parts have sections that look like this
then the final chapters brings the quality back up significantly.
i get the feeling that some assets were rushed to get this game out the door in a timely manner
No,the last chapters when you are ascending to the city above,you can clearly see backgrounds to simulate the far away slums,city structures,similar of what we had in PSOne games,the original FFVII used a lot of those,but was acceptable and expected,here not at all.
You have to overlook a lot to not see all that discrepancy.
FFVIIR still looks great 90% of the time.
I couldn't find a better shoot.
that is, in no way shape or form, a PS1 quality shot
Not saying you have to like how it looks, but come on.
It's definitely more than 1 percent. I'd say a solid 10-15% has noticeably bad textures. It's not even like background stuff you'll quickly walk past. There's that scene of Cloud and Tifa early on the the awful door is the only thing you're looking at. Or the whole chapter where the skybox looks unfinished.
He's clearly talking about the prerendered backdrop. I don't know if it qualifies as PS1-tier but it does look out of place and is very low quality in this section of the game.
The far away background slums for sure is,not the modeled environment.
FF7R easily. The game look absolutely incredible at times and horrible at others. Skyboxes in particular are laughable.
Jedi Fallen Order.
Has some beautiful areas and planets early on, but some of the later stuff in the game is really bland, lacking detail/assets and the textures drop in quality etc too. But can tell when they started running out of budget/resource/time and had to rush some of the planets.
Has some beautiful areas and planets early on, but some of the later stuff in the game is really bland, lacking detail/assets and the textures drop in quality etc too. But can tell when they started running out of budget/resource/time and had to rush some of the planets.
SWSH has plenty of high highs for a Switch game, especially since it's one of the few 1080p titles on the console.
The skybox in this area reminds me of a film production ident, but I can't remember the name of it.It's FF7R for sure. The contrast between areas is insane in a weird way. The PS1-like backgrounds still baffles me to this day.
I mean
How can this happen?
Absolutely FF7R. I've never played a game before that varies so wildly graphically.
Definitely FF7R. It goes from being absolutely, breathtakingly beautiful to having watercolor backgrounds with no detail. There are plenty of examples throughout the thread.
Doesn't work though because there certainly isn't any high in this tremendously ugly game.Fire Emblem Three Houses
It's more of a case of some lows (battles) and some lower lower lows (this fucking castle school that looks like a Unity asset pack from a student in 2010).
Nier automata has PS2 textures on some of buildings and other structures. Not a big deal as the game has so many other areas it excels in but goddamit platinum PS2 textures really?
God it was distracting. It's like the non npc character models are all from a different game. I was happy to play it on my One X when it hit gamepass, thinking it was at least optimized for it. But nope, those ps2 area textures and shadows still pop in 20 feet away from you, only now in 4k. It really hit home how budget and lucky fans are the game even exists.
Another vote for Final Fantasy VII Remake. Certain environments like the Shinra Building look stunning, but while the game has a lot of highs, it also has a lot of REALLY low lows...
Absolutely. While XV also has it's share of blurry textures here and there, it's a lot more consistent than VII Remake. I'd say it's consistently better looking, but VII Remake has it beat in cutscene post-processing and direction.
Absolutely. While XV also has it's share of blurry textures here and there, it's a lot more consistent than VII Remake. I'd say it's consistently better looking, but VII Remake has it beat in cutscene post-processing and direction.
This is OG XenoWii level of asset here!Fire Emblem Three Houses
I'm aware that the lazy devs rhetoric is banable here but for Christ's sake, in a console where Luigi's Mansion 3 exists, what's the justification for this? Not only the horrible texture work but the complete lack of an anti-aliasing solution, the unjustifiable 30 FPS with stutters, the Unity-like assets spread across the world... seriously. Graphics aren't everything and I know this game is supposed to be good but I refuse to buy shit looking like that in 2020.Fire Emblem Three Houses
Final Fantasy VII.
It looked incredible back in 1997. The CGI, the FMV, the pre-rendered backdrops, and the battle graphics. All mind-blowing stuff.
...But my mind was really blown when I saw the field characters show up. They looked horrible. The difference was like night and day. Everything looked incredible and realistic for the time, but those "chibi" characters looked so weird even back then.
Over time, I did get used to the chibi characters, which turned out to be quite charming in their own way. But I still remember the initial shock when I saw those chibi characters for the first time.
It looked incredible back in 1997. The CGI, the FMV, the pre-rendered backdrops, and the battle graphics. All mind-blowing stuff.
...But my mind was really blown when I saw the field characters show up. They looked horrible. The difference was like night and day. Everything looked incredible and realistic for the time, but those "chibi" characters looked so weird even back then.
Over time, I did get used to the chibi characters, which turned out to be quite charming in their own way. But I still remember the initial shock when I saw those chibi characters for the first time.
Dark Souls 2
hahaha, yeah, that's what I was gonna post.
More examples:
(one of the best looking areas in the game, IMHO)
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I'd say that for the best looking game of the generation (haven't played it yet) RDR2 texture work and vegetation looks quite subpar. Textures at anything other than ultra are just disrespectful in an AAA game in 2020. More so if you consider Rockstar has all the money and time in the world to deliver a game.
Also the AA solution is not good.
Also the AA solution is not good.
Dark Souls 2
hahaha, yeah, that's what I was gonna post.
More examples:
(one of the best looking areas in the game, IMHO)
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Dark Souls II Vanilla looks straight up broken at times.
I personally like the models in this game, they are not the best in the world, but considering the power of the console and the scale of the battles they are not ugly
Dark Souls II Vanilla looks straight up broken at times.
indeed.
You have nice looking places like Heide's, Majula, Dragon Shrine and the lead up to Drangleic Castle and, on the other hand, stinkers like FoFG (if I never have to play through that place I'd be happy), Shaded Woods and Tseldora, which look like ugly slabs of blurry grey and brown.
I think this is what happen in FFVIIR:
1. SE already delayed the game from March 3rd to April 10th.
2. SE knows that some area still need to be fix. But the game it self already running ok.
3. Some lockdown scenario looming around Japan/Tokyo (and other parts of the world) at the time.
4. SE cannot delay the game anymore. They took the hard decision to ship it at whatever cause.
5. SE knows players around the world will notice the discrepancies.
6. SE told all the staff to be quiet about this.
7. and said "we're going to release it on other platform eventually, so we can fix it at that time"
8. The end.
1. SE already delayed the game from March 3rd to April 10th.
2. SE knows that some area still need to be fix. But the game it self already running ok.
3. Some lockdown scenario looming around Japan/Tokyo (and other parts of the world) at the time.
4. SE cannot delay the game anymore. They took the hard decision to ship it at whatever cause.
5. SE knows players around the world will notice the discrepancies.
6. SE told all the staff to be quiet about this.
7. and said "we're going to release it on other platform eventually, so we can fix it at that time"
8. The end.
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The early training section and the collapsed building part look really mediocre. Nothing really looks right: textures are bad and the general art isn't interesting at all and then somehow like a butterfly emerging from a cocoon it becomes one of the best looking games of the generation.
is that everquestDark Souls II Vanilla looks straight up broken at times.
Yeah, is that a bug - or just compromises due to memory limitations?