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Game of Thrones spinoff, House of the Dragon, ordered to series
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Is this going to be an Anthology show? Each season being a different Targ ruler?
I think the Long Night prequel was doomed from the start because it wasn't about dragons. It is what GoT was known for. Although after the Conquest the dragons are kind of just there in all the historical stuff and it is all almost Targs fucking or not fucking their sister/wives until the Dance.
I think the Long Night prequel was doomed from the start because it wasn't about dragons. It is what GoT was known for. Although after the Conquest the dragons are kind of just there in all the historical stuff and it is all almost Targs fucking or not fucking their sister/wives until the Dance.
Not really surprising. Going back to the Long Night and the WWs is too much of a rethread of the part people didn't care that much for and which was trashed with S8, while focusing on the Targaryens is a lot more likely to revolve around the kind of material that larger mainstream audiences enjoyed which is the political bickering, the sex, the backstabbing, and wars among kingdoms.
Safer choice, and between those two options there is actually little to work with. It will feel like more of the same whatever they do, they'll have to catch lightning in a bottle a second time if they're going to have another big success, but the mystery is all gone so all they can really depend on is impeccable acting and writing. Not very likely.
The show will likely face the same situation most sequels to big successes go through: mostly newcomers who want to hop in to get their time in the limelight, lots of yes-men because no one will want to take difficult decisions or compromise themselves. Everyone will just want to take a ride in the fancy car, no one will want to own it.
Safer choice, and between those two options there is actually little to work with. It will feel like more of the same whatever they do, they'll have to catch lightning in a bottle a second time if they're going to have another big success, but the mystery is all gone so all they can really depend on is impeccable acting and writing. Not very likely.
The show will likely face the same situation most sequels to big successes go through: mostly newcomers who want to hop in to get their time in the limelight, lots of yes-men because no one will want to take difficult decisions or compromise themselves. Everyone will just want to take a ride in the fancy car, no one will want to own it.
Or it could be Better Call Saul and end up better than the original. It already has a better show runner, so at least it has that going for it.
Well BCS is not more or even close to as popular as BB was. I don't think people will care that much for HotD, a lot has changed since AGoT first aired, there's too much competition. They can't grab the attention like they did before.
I think the best they could do is get the biggest actors/actresses in Hollywood, it's the only way they can really make a statement about acting and writing quality, which is what I think they are trying to do marketing-wise by going with this setting. If they go with unknowns they'll be starting off from way further back than they should.
They can't get the original cast back, but they have to start with the equivalent pull.
I'm just talking about marketing here really, personally I don't care, I just want quality.
One issue is if it's only a few hundred years earlier, there's a likelihood Westeros isn't going to look very different. All the familiar landmarks would be there, we kinda saw enough of some of those locations (I can't say I want to ever see the Winterfell courtyard again). While it's a better premise than the Long Night project, that one at least was so long ago that Westeros would look completely different, different settlements and families, even different tech level.
Who is the head writer? I'm hyped, because this is great, though it does fly in the face of GRRM's "we're not telling existing stories which is why we're not doing Robert's Rebellion" BS.
Long Night always seemed kind of weird and I'm pretty done with White Walkers so this is definitely more exciting.
Very excited and was always hoping it would happen as it makes the most sense. Plenty of content to cover prior to the War that's interesting.
I think this show has far easier potential to market than what GOT had to start with. Two sides, Green or Black and going full out. So many interesting moments throughout The dance of Dragons they can pull from as slogans. I mean, they hired talent for the failed pilot that the cast likely doesn't seem like it's going to be an issue even from marketing.
I would have liked to have had this and the cancelled show playing in different seasons of the year even with how anticlimactically and badly the walkers were handled but whatever. Maybe the issues were that glaring.
Glad to see Sapochnik getting this opportunity to help run a series. Optimistic about it.
I was hoping D&D being involved with Star Wars might have gotten us a Sapochnik directed movie with music by Djawadi but alas. As someone else said, hope Djawadi composes this new series. He should be to Game Of Thrones what John Williams has been to Star Wars.
Glad to see Sapochnik getting this opportunity to help run a series. Optimistic about it.
I was hoping D&D being involved with Star Wars might have gotten us a Sapochnik directed movie with music by Djawadi but alas. As someone else said, hope Djawadi composes this new series. He should be to Game Of Thrones what John Williams has been to Star Wars.
The prequel set thousands of years earlier sounded way, way, way more interesting and "mysterious" than the story of how the Targs fucked everything up - most of GoT has been about how those in power become stupid and corrupt and fuck everything up so its not exactly breaking new ground. Also wanted to see tons and tons of characters say Asshai :(
the problem with the mysterious history prequel was that even the show writers didnt know the story
This is either going to be very good, or trigger the collapse of absolutely insane TV budgets
quality giffage
Wasn't sold until I saw Sapochnik.
Wonder how they'll do it. Fire and Blood is great, but not immediately the most filmable.
Wonder how they'll do it. Fire and Blood is great, but not immediately the most filmable.
I wonder if HBO went ahead with this one just because it has source material supporting it.
Will we get all 8 seasons before the second half of Fire and Blood is published?
Will we get all 8 seasons before the second half of Fire and Blood is published?
I'll take it. I admit I was not enamored with Fire and Blood. Rushed out to get it release day, read it in two or three days, didn't reveal anything new or shocking. But I can see why HBO would option this: it's 90% political intrigue.
Fire & Blood 2 being framed as a historical text is in Martin's favour—he only has to provide a broad sweep of events rather than dramatising it all in great detail.
That's going to be the challenge of the show though—the showrunner and writers are going to have to flesh out the historical outline of the novel, and that's going to require a lot of creative work.
Imagine watching a series for the most fearless beings, knowing they all vanish instantly when a girl stabs their leader.
I doubt this is the Naomi Watts thing being developed. Fire & Blood was about Targaryen stuff from the past, largely in the east for about 30% of the book, which was largely separated from Westeros until Aegon The Conqueror came over. Watts's show seems to be about the world thousands of years before that happened and takes place in the west - if we are to believe the leaks.
Yeah, it's a pity. Bryan's episodes were some of the best in GoT, and you could feel that he cared a lot more about the ASOIAF lore than D&D. This show with Cogman as showrunner would have been amazing
I wish he could at least write some episodes, but his Amazon deal probably doesn't allow that
This makes a lot more sense, there's a complete book with a lot of material, battles, dragons, it can use a lot of the same locations (they might not) and there's a lot of plotting. The scenes with a couple of people in a room will offset the cost of all the dragons.
My only doubt about it is the theory that it's a big book of lies is pretty compelling. I wonder if they just ignore that and deliver it all as it's told. That was going to be a problem with the age of heroes or a Dunk And Egg book as well though.
My only doubt about it is the theory that it's a big book of lies is pretty compelling. I wonder if they just ignore that and deliver it all as it's told. That was going to be a problem with the age of heroes or a Dunk And Egg book as well though.