So it's Sansa's job to execute Jon if he deserts the Night's Watch. I expect that particular scroll will fall into a crack somewhere.
It's both I think.
It's both I think.
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Game of Thrones S8 |OT3| Best season evar. (FULL SPOILERS) (See Staff Post)
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That's fine, but hating everything major this year does say way more about you than the media.
Inserting 21st century morality actually makes no sense at all, sacking cities was happened all the time in the medieval period. So realistically it could have stil worked out for Dany.
The finale for these events might be lackluster, but the build up was awesome.
GoT will still be myu favourite show, even with a lackluster last season that gave a bittersweat taste in your mouth.
I mean bran being king is the light cave levels of dumb on this show. It's just complete and utter nonsense
It's funny, my girlfriend and I were talking about the show at large and the final season's deaths/send offs, and we were just talking about how none of the S8 deaths were as savage or as surprising as the Red Wedding (which I can now say is where the show peaked).
"Why do you think I came all this way"
After seasons of the show hammering home that Brandon Stark is dead, that he's not Bran anymore, that he isn't really human anymore and how this was a bad disturbing thing and distressing to his friends and family, that he has no desires or motivations beyond the past and as some vague adversary of the Night King...
...the show makes it very important that he very much is Bran (he sure didn't say he was no longer Brandon Stark this time, huh), and did have some kind of plan and goal through all this, and let everything happen so that goal could be achieved?
After seasons of the show hammering home that Brandon Stark is dead, that he's not Bran anymore, that he isn't really human anymore and how this was a bad disturbing thing and distressing to his friends and family, that he has no desires or motivations beyond the past and as some vague adversary of the Night King...
...the show makes it very important that he very much is Bran (he sure didn't say he was no longer Brandon Stark this time, huh), and did have some kind of plan and goal through all this, and let everything happen so that goal could be achieved?
First, ADWD was not a bad book. ADWD was better than any season of the tv show. TWoW will be a better book, because the cut out the best stuff at the end of ADWD and moved it to TWoW.
The stupid out of context headlines? They have always been there.
there's a lot to like. I like that Edmure Tully came back. I liked that they showed the Dothraki are adjusting to civilized life. A new Dorne Prince - I mean it goes to show they didn't forget about him. A lot of really cool small stuff.
I mean the entire last two seasons of this show were awful still.
Very upset at how much of a non-threat the night king was.
I mean the entire last two seasons of this show were awful still.
Very upset at how much of a non-threat the night king was.
Wasn't that 'fake' though? Just bad writing where they didn't want to let viewers in on the secret because OMG surprise-twist.
And all of that would be fine and totally make sense.... if they showed us any of those intentions whatsoever.
I hope that if GRRM decides this is how he still wants to end it, that we do get to see that side of Bran that makes all of this make sense.
We can infer that he is evil due to the fact that he knew all of this was going to happen, but said nothing. But the show does a horrible job of explaining that to us, and even goes one step further to make us feel like Bran is the good guy.
Its not that I hate Bran as king, I just think its weird and doesnt make sense given how they treated his character these last seasons. We always thought and expected there to be more behind his purpose and his powers.... but in the end... there wasnt anything.
Well, he tried to kill Daenerys in Jon's place so he can rule, he didn't make it. Just because Varys wanted that and the show seemingly was going in a direction in like Jon could be in a position to discuss the throne doesn't mean he actually has to get it. What happened looked reasonable to me, maybe they could have said it "he's a Targeryan" "it doesn't matter, he committed a crime". We don't have to like it but I think it's a logical consequence.
Yes, the theory also implies that Bran might have warged into Dany/Drogon to burn down the city for his own ultimate benefit. If this were true, the show would have given more hints.
Final scene was good though, I like that it ended on people going back home into nature.
I go back to my standard: if the red wedding were written like the current seasons the dire wolves would have swooped in to rescue the starks at the last minute and they'd ride on their backs to safety.
Oh yeah show bran is absurdly horrendous especially since d and d knew he would be king years ago.
Just saying
While I liked the finale, and thought the first 30 minutes were top GoT, I'm left empty overall. The Sopranos, The Shield, Battlestar Galactica...they all left me with shit to think about. To talk about. With Game of Thrones...I am sadly empty, and am back to what I said a year ago....I think I'm going to mostly forget this show in no time at all. It really has no replay value, especially considering how many interesting plotlines simply went nowhere AND what they did, or didn't do, with the white walkers.
I still can't get over how impossibly stupid Sansa is, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU WANT AN INDEPENDENT NORTH?
She just doomed her entire people. They are all going to die starving.
She just doomed her entire people. They are all going to die starving.
"Lords, take her into custody."
Seriously, that drove me nuts. No persuasive argument as to why the North should be independent, and Bran gives no thought or reason as to why he just goes, "Yeah, sure."
There's also nothing that makes me think she'll be a good queen.
Miguel Sapochnik does this on the regular. and it's very annoying. his shots are so inconsistent. Although maybe D&D are to blame here since they directed this episode? idk.
And with her own brother as king no less, no good for the economy
This. People don't seem to understand this. They're not doing the blood thing anymore, so his birth right means jack shit other than for them to go "oh, that's cool I guess."
The North was its own kingdom until the Targaryan conquest.
Lol how?
A Stark sits on the throne. A high born family. Lord's of all houses still vote on the successor. You think they are choosing anyone not from those families present?
They got rid of hereditary birthright but that wheel still turning just the same
This is the laziest argument you can come up with. Being a fantasy series doesn't mean there doesn't exist any thematic consistency or defining characteristics to the story. One of them is absolutely meant to be an exploration of what makes good governance in a world as treacherous and selfish as GoT's which is meant to resemble our own (at least more so than fantasy in general). After all there exist many parallels to war of the roses for a reason. If the answer to that question is essentially - an omniscient being, well may be I had too high hopes from the series, though I will say not without reason as its discussions on power and governance have truly been compelling at times in the past.
Yeah because there is nothing else to like this year, right? Don't be ridiculous because I didn't like your corny superhero movie.
I agree with you and get what you are saying.... But just to be fair though, there are a lot of almost deaths that are saved by Dany, Direwolves, or someone else at the very last possible second. This isnt something new just from these past few seasons. It is a common occurrence throughout the books and the show from the beginning. (Summer saving Bran and Catelyn in season 1, Dany constantly popping up out of nowhere to save the day on dragonback... etc)
The only ending that is at least somewhat happy is Jon, he gets to be with Ghost and his wilding friends and fuckoff from Westerosi politics. Everyone is a shit dumb ending.
-Sansa has doomed all her people to die of starvation for a crown.
-Arya is going to die at sea since she has no sailing experience and there is zero reason some random crew would continue follow a little girl to the end of the Earth that no one has ever come back from when the going gets tough. They're going to mutiny.
-Bran is an emotionless, heartless GOD King who now rules over all of Westeros and can see everything and everyone. He's the ultimate authoritarian ruler that can never be betrayed. He let King's Landing be burned.
-Tyrion is forced to serve this GOD-King and for some dumbass reason none of his contributions to history will be recorded despite serving as Hand for THREE separate monarchs.
-Sansa has doomed all her people to die of starvation for a crown.
-Arya is going to die at sea since she has no sailing experience and there is zero reason some random crew would continue follow a little girl to the end of the Earth that no one has ever come back from when the going gets tough. They're going to mutiny.
-Bran is an emotionless, heartless GOD King who now rules over all of Westeros and can see everything and everyone. He's the ultimate authoritarian ruler that can never be betrayed. He let King's Landing be burned.
-Tyrion is forced to serve this GOD-King and for some dumbass reason none of his contributions to history will be recorded despite serving as Hand for THREE separate monarchs.
"I'm sorry I wasn't there for you"
"You were exactly where you needed to be"
Have a day off, Bran, for fuck's sake!
"You were exactly where you needed to be"
Have a day off, Bran, for fuck's sake!
Yeah like LOST I guess
Remember when they were hinting at and laying ground work about Dany may or not being able to have children? That went nowhere huh?
Where did the snow come from? Episode 6 picks up right where episode 5 ends and the weather during episode 5 was nice..
Is she though? There was green sprouting north of the Wall at the end. The North will be as lush as the Reach in no time. Believe!
As someone who is into Medieval history, I implore you to actually read about the sacking of cities. Literally never does sacking imply "kill everyone even when they surrender" *which is what Dany did). Just look at the final and decisive battle of the English Civil War, The Battle of Worcester in which only 3000 Royalists were killed but nearly 12,000 were captured. And that's just soldiers.
If sacking a city meant "kill everyone, including civilians even after the opposing side has surrendered", then humanity would have never evolved from antiquity seeing as every time a battle was won, the immediate response (as you seem yo be suggesting) is to destroy the entire internal economy of the defeated's side by killing nearly everyone.
Not bending the knee does not mean there wouldnt be an alliance and trade agreements. Granted I dont know wtf the north has to trade.
