She wasn't going to break any wheels though, she became a tyrant. Worse than that even, she never intended to stop.Tyrion is so dumb. "Break the wheel"; he goaded Jon into killing the person who was actually going to do it. What a putts.
That was the best thing Tyrion did in years. She had to be put down, Jon tried to reason with her but she wasn't having it. He had no choice, Jon's character demands he kills her, if he didn't it would go against everything he is.Tyrion is so dumb. "Break the wheel"; he goaded Jon into killing the person who was actually going to do it. What a putts.
But that doesn't break the wheel, it just defers things down one generation. Then its back to war when one or two Kingdoms decides it doesn't like the vote, or goes Brexit like Sansa.
Sam's idea actually broke the wheel.
I thought that was what Dany meant- ending feudalism. But we got more feudalism + Bran's surveillance state.
She wasn't going to break any wheels though, she became a tyrant. Worse than that she never intended to stop.
Her "liberation" would've continued. Jon did the right thing.
It is a bit hysterical, but I think people made their minds up a few weeks ago and nothing was going to undo the bad taste. People will get over it and realise it's nowhere near as bad as those two.I really don't get this backlash. I wanted more episodes to flesh things out as much as anybody but these last two episodes were a fitting end to the series. To compare it to Dexter or LOST is some ridiculous hyperbole.
That was the best thing Tyrion did in years. She had to be put down, Jon tried to reason with her but she wasn't having it. He had no choice, Jon's character demands he kills her, if he didn't it would go against everything he is.
He's the fairytale Knight that does the right thing always regardless of the consequences. GRRM hates that sort of stereotypical hero so that's why he's punished so harshly.
Yeah, I honestly love the Dance of Dragons era, as well as the Blackfyre rebellions.
I hope they're adapted someday.
She realised the harm of the system? After she literally committed genocide? Lmfao tell me more.This makes no sense. She wanted to claim to her throne, realised the harm of the system, then decided to "break the wheel" itself. Tyrion, & Varys turning into Mahatma Gandhi all of a sudden was some BS given their history and the context of the show. Tyrion almost torched the city himself with his wildfire.
He has said he doesn't really look at the reactions to the tv show to dictate any changes to the narrative he is building. Like, if he was going to make Dany crazy in the books before the show showed her becoming mad, he won't change that just because of the huge backlash after the show.do you guys think people's reaction to how things are handled in the show affects martin's story, or does he not give a shit?
Dany explicitly stated that only she knows what is 'good' and nobody else gets to choose.
That god complex is strong fam. She had to die.
They would have no choice but to animate it. The CGI budget alone would dwarf all 8 seasons of what Game of Thrones cost. HBO didn't even wanna shell out the dough for Jon to interact with Ghost and yet you expect them to pay for interactions with a dozen or so dragons?
Also some of the stuff just could never be put to screen. The Treasons at Tumbleton makes what Dany and her armies did at Kings Landing look rather quaint. Not in body count of course, but in deeds? That shit was heinous.
I was rooting for her at the beginning, but by the end she was no better than the rest of them. She was paranoid and cruel at the end. Though to be fair if they had just let her take the throne then maybe things would not have gone that badly. The only ones that deserved to come out unscathed were the children. Especially Prince Daeron and Lucerys. Daeron seemed like a good enough lad and Lucerys was killed in cold blood by that one eyed piece of shit Aemond. Maelor too since he was only 9 and never did anything wrong.
The Storming of the Dragonpit just pissed me off.
is "people will get over it and realize its acutally good" the new "only nerds/ERA dislike it, everyone else loves it"?
"some people"Its literally after the battle. You measure all she did in the east, all she sacrificed to save the entire continent from the zombies. And you gank her because Tyrion, of all people is sad some people died. The dudes knows about war and collateral damage.
Yeah, it would be a monumental task. An animated series could work. It would be GOAT tier stuff though if it was done in live action.
It'll never happen though ;-;.
The studio that did Castlevania would be great.I would pay cash money for one of the better animation studios out there to do it though. There are several animation styles out there that could do it justice.
He has lost all his lands, titles and can never return to his home and family. She hadn't committed genocide earlier in the season, she sealed her fate in that conversation. If you think she came out well in that talk I dunno what to say.He tried to reason with her for a full 30 seconds after he ignored her for half the season.
How was he punished? He is practically king beyond the wall now lol
I mean most of the families are extinct so...Why the fuck is the ending patting itself on the back so much just cause Bran is kind.? Wont people just go back to fucking each other over due to their families and lords after a generation or two?
Why the fuck is the ending patting itself on the back so much just cause Bran is kind.? Wont people just go back to fucking each other over due to their families and lords after a generation or two?
He can't father so the next king will be chosen by popular voting. Dumd and Dumber ends GOT with a call for democracy... asides from the fact that the 3-eyed raven lives for thousands of years.
Limited window of opportunity to take action. If he didn't take action then. Sansa would be dead very shortly. He came to verify if his worst suspicions were true and it seemed like it was...He tried to reason with her for a full 30 seconds after he ignored her for half the season.
How was he punished? He is practically king beyond the wall now lol
Democracy happens from the bottom up. I don't think the series has ever focused enough on the commoners to show a believable rise of democratic values. They didn't even get as far as building a constitutional monarchy or something like the Magna Carta/Bill of Rights. I don't really believe the world of GoT is on a path to Democracy.
Would it have killed him to type the damn name once instead of shooting it out of context in a completely unrelated thread? This happens more than it should here. I realize I'm fixating on a small thing but I have to call it out.
She explicitly stated that she decides what is good and no one else and she'll provide her form of liberation through blood and fire. That is a tyrant. Jon got his confirmation of that before he offed her.Like a couple of guys. Really like 1 dude. Not even that, he was old anyawy!
What I'm saying is Westeros is a shockingly violent place, war being waged non stop for years. Someone sacking a city isn't unsual in this setting. But killing someone, who was willing to change the entire political system, which cause generations of warfare, IMMEDIATELY, before even seeing what she planned to do... Makes no sense.