If the big badass getting their ass handed to them is being Worfed
Is the crafty guy getting outplayed at every turn being Tyrioned
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If the big badass getting their ass handed to them is being Worfed
Is the crafty guy getting outplayed at every turn being Tyrioned
Hey but the slavers were civilians though, and one of them said that he's dad wasn't ok with the plan to crucify children /s
If you're a slaver and your city just got taken over by a slavery hating individual, who marched a few hundred miles where every mile had a child crucified as a mile marker...
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. In a medieval world where modern notions of criminal justice don't exist, I believe the best slaver is a dead slaver. Fuck them all.
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Dany always went full ruthless when she didnt get what she wanted. Now she's lost two dragons, a lot of her army, and technically her claim to the throne and is mentally strung out. She wanted a fight to the death for Kings Landing and didn't get what she wanted, her going crazy isn't a surprise to me.
You are right. The writers forgot what the fuck they established earlier. Bells meant death of a member of the noble family or that the city is under siege.
I think 'dying peacefully' usually means going in your sleep, not whimpering, afraid, and buried alive in a crypt lol
I thought Cersei's ending suited her. She has spent the entire show posing as some hardass mastermind. Her death was suitably pathetic for the kind of character she is.
Nah, I'm with you. I enjoyed this episode. I've enjoyed this season. I've enjoyed basically every season, albeit to varying degrees. I almost never post in these threads though because they're always such a buzzkill haha. Oh well. I'm satisfied too.
So Jaime actually did go back to be with Cersei. Here I thought he was only giving off that impression so he could get close and kill her himself.
I guess once he learned her army ambushed Dany and killed a dragon he thought 'I'm getting the fuck out of Winterfell and on the winning side." What kind of random ass turn is that? Flushed most of the characters development down the drain for reasons.
I guess once he learned her army ambushed Dany and killed a dragon he thought 'I'm getting the fuck out of Winterfell and on the winning side." What kind of random ass turn is that? Flushed most of the characters development down the drain for reasons.
I feel like a lot of you are not actually comprehending the criticism. Both of those things were executed very poorly.
He didn't know it at the time... I can't imagine that would make it any easier...
Tyrion I kind of disagree with because she took him when he was on his last leg and had nowhere else to turn. So I get him feeling like he needs to see that through.
Jon though I completely agree with. I don't buy him being so blindly loyal to her at this point.
This thread has degenerated into this for the past few seasons. I do feel the show and the last two seasons have suffered from being rushed taking a lot of impact away from large moments but I have still enjoyed watching every week. I stopped subbing to this thread after last season and now come on for live reactions and duck out. I agree with all your points and really enjoyed the episode.
Tbf grrm has hundreds of pages to heel turn Dany and d&d have a few hours basically. They still could have executed it a lot better though. Like even just having the ballistas be a surprise at the KL siege with a dragon going down as the reason for Dany to snap would be better than, hey, KL surrendering, easy victory, but let's just have her burn everything anyway. And lots of issues with the set up beyond that going back this season and last too.
Yes but she was talked down by her advisors that she trusts. Each and every time she was on the verge of doing something terrible or evil her advisors tried to talk her down. Most times they succeeded.
Barriston, Jorah, and Missandei are all dead. Varys betrayed her. She doesn't trust Tyrion and Jon. She no longer had any advisors that she trusts to talk her off the ledge this time. So she did a double backflip off the cliff this time and completely snapped. It's been a something that has been slowly forshadowed for years.
Jon would do exactly that... Loyal to a fault, like his idiot father.
His adherence to his 'honor' led to the death of tens of thousands of people. Jon is a fucking idiot, and Ygritte was right: He doesn't know anything.
Honestly since they fucked up everything now I hope Dany kills everyone in the next episode now
ESPECIALLY TYRION
They managed to make me HATE fucking Tyrion. He is probably now THE dumbest character in the show. THANKS D&D!
I hope he dies slowly and suffering a lot.
ESPECIALLY TYRION
They managed to make me HATE fucking Tyrion. He is probably now THE dumbest character in the show. THANKS D&D!
I hope he dies slowly and suffering a lot.
Walk through the list of events that has happened to Dany since she first arrived on the shores of Westeros.
I mean, I know they have to condense the story. But we have been paying attention to what we have seen, right?
Oh, I was also anticipating this scene and disappointed that it didn't happen for real:
Arya is fleeing King's Landing. She finds herself in an open courtyard. On the other side is Jon Snow.
"Jon...!"
Jon Snow sees her and while dismayed to find her there, is glad to see her alive. He hesitates, begins to smile. Until he hears a cry of terror from above. He looks up to see Drogon silhouetted in the sky behind Arya.
"NO!"
Arya turns around just in time to see the flames. She is consumed utterly. Nothing is left but a burnt corpse.
*DUN* *DUN* *DUN*
Now Jon has that motivation to be the king. Now it's personal.
Anyway, I'm glad Arya lived through the episode after all.
Arya is fleeing King's Landing. She finds herself in an open courtyard. On the other side is Jon Snow.
"Jon...!"
Jon Snow sees her and while dismayed to find her there, is glad to see her alive. He hesitates, begins to smile. Until he hears a cry of terror from above. He looks up to see Drogon silhouetted in the sky behind Arya.
"NO!"
Arya turns around just in time to see the flames. She is consumed utterly. Nothing is left but a burnt corpse.
*DUN* *DUN* *DUN*
Now Jon has that motivation to be the king. Now it's personal.
Anyway, I'm glad Arya lived through the episode after all.
Cant wait for them to humanize slave owners and have a "both sides" moment in that shit.
Yeah, I'm hoping the adherence to the books here is "Jaime and Cersei die" or "Jaime and Cersei both die in King's Landing" and nothing like the way it played out.
Skin-color based racism is very much a show invention to make GoT topical.
I thought that show was canned.
That's not what lazy writing means.
Lazy writing is having inconsistent power levels on dragons or plot devices (one episode they can get eviscerated by a few Ballistas with precision, in the next episode they have trouble aiming at it). Essentially writing a plot device to be as powerful or weak as you need it to be regardless of consistency within the rules you created yourself.
Lazy writing is two character coincidentally appearing at the same exact spot at the same time for a supposed climactic showdown (Euron and Jaimie). This one is more plot contrivance but that falls into lazy writing as well.
Trying to illicit sympathy from the audience for Cersei in her last moments when you have spent 2-3 seasons building her up as an irredeemable monster is lazy writing.
If DnD were so proud of their writing and what they did with dany. Why not show any close ups of dany burning everyone. As soon as bells ring they never show dany ever again probably because they have no clue what Danys facial expression should be cause it's ridiculous
HBO wanted more seasons out of D&D. It was D&D who decided the number of episodes they had were enough.
I didn't say she died peacefully. But she was consoled and brought some peace by being in Jamie's arms at the end. That's not really the way one would expect her to go out.
Yooo i lost a 20 dollar bet because of this clownery... now im the clown. I could have sworn jaime was gonna kill cersie.
Pale white horse, as the one Death rides in on in the Bible. I dunno, I kind of liked it in its absurdity.
Which reminds me, Bronn isn't getting any castle now. They probably won't even show him again, what a waste haha.
Just as she destroyed the crazy religious fanatics and the power hungry tyrells, Cersei has always been a hero
I looked and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death
Because putting biblical call backs in GoT makes sense apparently
Thanks D&D!
Dany's never been shown to 'want a fight'. She'll bring a fight if pressed to or if it's needed, but not just "well tee hee, I won so I guess I'll go crazy now".
That's not been telegraphed by the show at all.
Even Lucas did a better job with Anakin Skywalker's turn.
Loved it. It's about time. Really getting tired of the "lets hold back" from the dragon queen ever since Olenna told her to go HAM and she started collecting L's by the dozen afterwards. I liked that she saw the bell and said "FUCK YOU ANYWAY".
Felt overdue and satisfying as fuck. Varis is gone, he admitted it and knew it was coming, and Cersei Jaime and Euron are dead. City in ruins, shitload of innocent deaths (it had to be done, a peaceful easy way out that allowed no casualties doesn't fit for me in this show personally) and some. The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the horse at the end for Arya.
Bring on the mad queen.
Dany also burned the Tarlys alive after they had already surrendered and she had won.
You don't necessarily have to like it but this stuff was all spelled out......just because there weren't instances of mass genocide before doesn't mean you couldn't see it coming.
I know, but it's disappointing that the thing they could've done a long time ago (even without the burning, you know?) happended now. Was it worth the wait?
I laughed way too much at this one hahahha. Was thinking the same thing!
I like it. I bet the book plays the same way too except with more nuance.
The running theme in the book is that no one is innocent.. except maybe Ned. Jamie never had a redemption arc, he got a conscience and killed a dictator, that same person pushed a boy out a window, that same person would do it again today.
The running theme in the book is that no one is innocent.. except maybe Ned. Jamie never had a redemption arc, he got a conscience and killed a dictator, that same person pushed a boy out a window, that same person would do it again today.
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