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Game of Thrones S8, Apr 14-May 19 @9PM EDT |OT| Aunt-Man and the Frost
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What annoys me is that the win doesnt feel earned. Throughout the whole ep they are just losing left and right, but then by complete chance, BAM there is Arya for whatever reason.
There was no master plan that led Arya there, they didn't plan for this and the execution of the scene looks like such an asspull that it leaves this conclusion feeling extremely underwhelming. From moment one they have been building up this confrontation, and the way it ends is just so bad.
There was no master plan that led Arya there, they didn't plan for this and the execution of the scene looks like such an asspull that it leaves this conclusion feeling extremely underwhelming. From moment one they have been building up this confrontation, and the way it ends is just so bad.
What was easy about it...
I guess this is a problem any story that builds up a threat like this has. LOTR? Why didn't they just fly the eagles into Mount Doom with the ring. It was so easy.
When she refused to kill her target
Walked around in broad daylight and was stabbed multiple times
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If you're nitpicking about medieval siege strategy against an undead army, you're the moron.
Same view. Book could easily go back and say it was the frozen chainmail that shattered it and Sam was mistaken. Probably will have to in fact.
It's not a retcon in the shows context - the show never showed Obsidian failing. It just never got used in the first place. Fist of North Men and Hardhome had obsidian weapons there, but no one attempted to use them (or were unable to). Once battle beyond the wall happened they established there that regular weapons were not useful against Wights (Hound smashing the one with Gendry's warhammer) and they battle with dragonglass only afterwards.
The Unsullied all had obsidian tipped spears, everyone save the Dothraki had either Valyrian Steel or obsidian.
Yeah that sounds about right. Afterall the Targaryen's were not even special in Valyria. They were a minor house among among the Valyrian nobility if I remember right. So they might not have known the secrets of Valyrian Steel to begin with.
Also as a side not I have always loved that the Targaryens were nobody special when they lived in Valyria. It would have been so easy for GRRM to make them big time sombodies with a long history of exceptional deeds, but he didn't. They were nobody. I always loved that touch.
I still enjoy the show, but I'm getting a sense that there's a good reason it's called "A Game of Thrones" instead of "A Song of Ice and Fire."
By far one of my favorite parts of the episode.I'm not very good at making gifs but here you go! Seriously this entire episode was full of visually stunning shots like this.
"Everyone" being a few individuals in a room getting drunk.
The big X barrier thingys had dragonglass embedded in them. There was a shot or two of the wights running by and getting popped. Plus, Lyanna Mormont killing the giant that explodes into nothing.
Imagine name calling others for using their brain for 2 seconds to point out a strange disconnect in logic....
So youre retort is to use the most vacuous, empty argument/critique on the internet in calling everyone nerds and morons for not just shutting their brain off and enjoying something? I mean...ok.
It's the show what do you want
the battle of the blackwater was like 20 people and that was season 2 before the show went off the rails
I mean she's made mistakes but she's also had very successful kills.
They were, E2 had the planning board with their banner, but their Lord never showed up in E3 and if they had any part of the battle it wasn't shown or it wasn't mounted.
Oh, I'm not saying some of the criticism isn't warranted or valid. However, there is a bit of irony there. That's all. I'm not that invested in all of this. I enjoyed the episode and look forward to seeing it all play out through the finale.
Yeah I know, I saw that all in Ep1&2. I was saying that I didn't think the dead had to be killed with dragonglass, just that they were prepared for anything. Considering they didn't know what was coming. But I guess that was the only way to kill them. They just don't get dusted like the WW's.
this definitely felt like a Gandalf coming with the boys type of moment which happens pretty often in these big battles.
The whole Dothraki horde vanished in a minute, a literal sea of undead washed over the Unsullied ranks and forced an almost immediate retreat. Yet the moment they entered Winterfell they switched to carboard weapons and started waiting in a line apparently. They tried to do a brutal, borderline hopeless fight where almost no one "important" dies and of course that disconnect is jarring as fuck.
Which? Wights are killed by burning the corpse. White Walkers die from being stabbed with dragonglass, and a book claims that dragonsteel (Valyrian steel) kills them, which hasn't been seen yet in the books but then again actual White Walkers have only appeared twice on page.
Did you miss her wiping out an entire house last season?
But we're supposed to buy that she gained the ability to do so after seeing nothing but her shortcomings and inabilities.
Giant didn't explode. It just turned back into a skeleton. None of the wights were dusted that I saw, even on the barriers. I'll rewatch.
Agreed.
This was the culmination of Jon's arc, since season one... This is the entire reason his character exists.
I have no issue with Arya landing the killing blow at all, honestly. It just could have been handled much better. Jon should have died fighting the NK with Arya sneaking in and finishing him off. Is the only reason Jon exists now to create tension between him and Danerys? I fucking hope not, that would be really lame.
agree 1000% its all this fucking show was the first few seasons... it was literally "SHIT ON THE STARKS" the show... and now people just want everyone dead for some reason... Im fine with the ones that did die this episode.. doesnt mean some still wont because they will.
Again, this came after watching her fail for a whole season. She beat the Waif when she fought in conditions to her advantage. Then all of a sudden she was a master faceless man.
Which should have shattered, steel would have been better lol.
so in the books when they fight them, they....... throw fire on them? or they don't fight them since Martin didn't write this far?
Did anyone else think that Arya died when she walked around the corner and all you heard was a stabbing sound before it focused on showing that she stabbed the wight in the chin?
How about the scenes where she barely escapes 6 wights with her life (and struggles mightly to do so), but somehow sneaks past thousands of them, multiple white walkers, and surprises the Night King.
That's the joke I hope.
It looks like a fungus infection.
If Euron/Cersei die next episode and 5/6 is Jon v. Dany, I will forgive them for wrapping up the NK plotline so quickly. At least those are two characters I have stakes in caring who wins.
Just use half of them then?
Vanguard/what the Dothraki do etc...these are all ways of dressing up what was a stupid stupid tactical choice designed to 1) give us an amazing visual 2) grow the tension 3) get rid of the Dothraki
I'm okay with it because in the grand scheme of things the Dothraki are not important. They had to go and the pay off from 1/2 was worth it.
Same not true of the way other characters were handled.
I am disappointed that the greatest threat to humanity was dispatched like that.
I am disappointed that nothing mistical happened, the prophecies irrelevant.
Bah.
I am disappointed that nothing mistical happened, the prophecies irrelevant.
Bah.
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