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Game of Throne carried a message of hope that wasnt fully delivered,this might be part of why it disappointed[SPOILERS]

MarioW

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fireflame said:
At the end of the series, some outcasts have become part of the council in King's landing yes, but it feels quite incomplete.
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I liked the council scene, seeing the "sidekicks" of some of the main players come together. My read on that was here are the actual people doing the work of running the kingdom while the ruling family class squabble and war. The "true power", at least as it manifests day to day for the people of Westeros, was actually around the table in the hands of (mostly) well meaning, hard working individuals.

Note: I know Tyrion is a Lannister and part of the ruling class, but the Lannisters are pretty much neutered at this point.
 
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Tbh I don't think bran wanted to be king he could just see the future knows that you can't change the future......like haven't other forms of media had the same thing. Where someone knows the future but it can't be changed because time is a set thing.
 
Ushay

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It's going to be interesting how different the book ending is from the show.
I bet there will be a huge changes. Even GRRM knows D&D screwed up big time.
 

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Ushay said:
It's going to be interesting how different the book ending is from the show.
I bet there will be a huge changes. Even GRRM knows D&D screwed up big time.
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I'm not so sure about that, IIRC he said he likes the ending. A lot of end points will probably be the same as they are likely his idea.

Except the books will have a message and meaning. The show just got that ending for the sake of ending the show.
 
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Ushay said:
It's going to be interesting how different the book ending is from the show.
I bet there will be a huge changes. Even GRRM knows D&D screwed up big time.
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Huge changes as in main characters having completely different endings? Very unlikely. The end result will probably be the same, the getting there will be different.

But I fully expect for Daenerys to become mad queen and then die, Arya to travel west, Bran to become king and Jon to end up with the free folk.
 

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It seems so. He keeps talking about how he can't have sex anymore since season 5. I mean maybe, it's a moral thing and he feels trauma over sex because of Shae. We don't really know. It's never explained.
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Did he say can't or hasn't?

If I remember correctly, they changed the rape scene in Essos to Tyrion refusing to bed the prostitute, then he tells Jaime he hasn't had sex in years.

I assumed he was celibate out of choice and lack of opportunity
 
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Agreed. The show drops its continuity with the early themes and motifs that made the story more than some big budget fantasy extravaganza full of boobs and blood.

Remember kids, in the words of modern sage David Benioff: "Themes are for eighth-grade book reports."

On Game of Thrones, characters are free to while away hours, even entire seasons, on the periphery. The story lines move forward and dig deeper as the episodes progress but rarely circle back and almost never pause for reflection. When I asked Benioff and Weiss if it was possible to infer any overall intentionality to the upcoming 10 episodes, they sneered. "Themes are for eighth-grade book reports," Benioff told me.
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Fucking hack.
 
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John Doe said:
Did he say can't or hasn't?

If I remember correctly, they changed the rape scene in Essos to Tyrion refusing to bed the prostitute, then he tells Jaime he hasn't had sex in years.

I assumed he was celibate out of choice and lack of opportunity
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He said he'd like to but he can't.

He even brings it up to Jaime somehow about how he'd like to go whoring again but can't.
 
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The showrunners portrayed some characters and scenarios in a way that clashes with how the story was intended to end, since they literally don't believe in themes and didn't care about who these characters are in the books.

This mean Dany in particular became pretty different and for a while they portrayed her as a simple hero of the people out to save the world.

It's clear that they knew in abstract terms that Dany was supposed to "go evil!" somehow at the end, so every once in a while TV show Dany gets really aggressive and some side character furrowed their brows and mumbled something about her family having The Dragon Crazies.

But overall they set up Dany in a way that would leave many people unhappy with the ending. And results in the story not making a lot of sense. Ironically enough if you step back and squint you can see some of the intended themes (remember themes from 8th grade?) take shape. And it does justify the ending in very broad strokes.
 
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