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[Game Informer] Nomura Reveals More On Kingdom Hearts IV And The Series' Future With Final Fantasy
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really? most of the original characters are lame as hell lmao
not saying the disney characters have stellar writing but there is at least a novelty in having these fun cartoon characters do anime shit
For real. No one gives a fuck; it's Smash Brothers. None of the other folks being there make any sense lmao
I loved KH1 and 2 when I was younger. FF crossed with Disney is what I bought into but I had absolutely no interest in 3 and the story is so hard to keep up with.
Yes, I for one am long awaiting the day that Kingdom Hearts finally completes its metamorphosis into a generic ass JRPG with a plot that is basically Nomura huffing his own farts for 25 hours.
There are some cool things done with other characters in the game, e.g. Ryu's smash attacks working better as combos like in SF, but that sentence is incredibly laughworthy
Honestly kinda glad I stopped being super invested in the series after BBS,
Its beyond lost the plot and Nomura seems like he wants to take it further and further away from what it sold people as(Disney x FF)
Its beyond lost the plot and Nomura seems like he wants to take it further and further away from what it sold people as(Disney x FF)
I still think the lack of Squall and co. was a bad decision in KH3. They weren't just fun cameos but important characters in KH1 and KH2 and good friends of Sora. Hell, KH2 is mostly filler outside of the start, end, and the very middle of the game in RG and the Final Fantasy characters are all very present in the story during that middle portion. As long as those guys are there in some capacity, I'll be happy
I honestly think the OCs have gotten worse as the series goes on
Sora and Riku are such cool guys. Kairi? well...this exchange kinda sums of Kairi
organization 13 are edgy anime villains but they're all distinct and pretty badass
the BBS trio are kinda dumb but they're kids so it's whatever
and the foretellers are just awful really
Translation. Don't take the choice of words too seriously. Look at the context where he's saying not to worry. He's saying there'll be a lot of words.
Nah fuck this.
I'd rather have "ok" graphics with a lot of worlds rather than the opposite.
I think Starkiller would be an incredibly badass superboss.
The Foretellers have literally nothing going for them, it's amazing. They don't have interesting designs or personalities, they're just the absolute textbook definition of bland. They make Vexen and Lexaeus look like Larxene by comparison.
I actually don't remember the last time I enjoyed a new character written by Nomura.
I can't say the ffxv boys even though I love them because Nomura was taken off the project and they talk and act like humans beings so you can tell Nomura didn't write them
How much was he involved with stranger of paradise's story? If he was super involved than I'd be down with more OCs after liking the chaos killer crew
Nah. Sora gonna join the Young Avengers. And that movie is gonna be canon to kingdom hearts lore.
Not looking good for FF. I don't like most of the KH original characters and they keep making more while simultaneously never killing off any of them and finding excuses for them to come back to life lol.
I'm still excited for the game but that's one aspect that bothers me (other than the increasingly convoluted story telling and weak character writing).
I'm still excited for the game but that's one aspect that bothers me (other than the increasingly convoluted story telling and weak character writing).
Loving everything he's saying in this interview. The FF side has been limited to a select few and I think as long as they remain I'll be satisfied. Cloud and Sephiroth must be in this tho.
I think that's what he's alluding to when he mentions KH characters standing their ground alongside Disney IP - he considers the franchise big enough on its own that its original characters can take more of a center stage. That said, I think we'll see a couple of cameos this time at least.
I think so, too. It's become kind of his long running shounen manga. Crossovers aren't as much of a big deal as they used to be anyways - might as well make it weirder and more meta.
Sora is totally gonna reference Smash Bros at some point in KH4, isn't he? It probably canonically happened during the week he spent asleep in Quadratum.
Aqua and Terra are in their twenties. Obviously they've had a very sheltered upbringing, but it still makes the parts where they're acting like kids tough to get through.
"The darkness may destroy my body, but it can't touch my heart. My heart will stay with my Smash Bros.™ It'll never die!"
I don't think the FF characters will ever play as much of a role in the plot as they did in KH1 but that's completely okay. I'd still enjoy getting them as cameos and as boss fights.
3 was Kingsom Hearts through and through, get outta here.
Nomura is the brainchild behind the IP, it's essentially his. He's always been the driving force so he's not hijacking anything.
That's not happening unless you want a bunch of linear levels or the game to come in 2030. Hell if they wanted to they could take the worlds in KH1 and KH2 (story aside), bring them back again, and turn them into full size playgrounds over what we got on the PS2.
Lmao
Some nice bits of info here, was interesting to hear Disney seemed more supportive of Sora ans it was more Nomura who was picky.
One point that confused me though was about liking seeing the reaction he hoped for to Xigbar/Braig being Luxu, which I thought I remember reading him saying in an older interview he doesn't know why people are surprised ha. Maybe mistranslation or meant as a joke ha.
Other thing that I'm confused about is when the graphic potential rises, the viable world selection lessens? How does that make sense? Surely 2D worlds can still be picked. Hope this doesn't mean only real-life/3D animations are the only options now. (My Treasure Planet hopes..)
One point that confused me though was about liking seeing the reaction he hoped for to Xigbar/Braig being Luxu, which I thought I remember reading him saying in an older interview he doesn't know why people are surprised ha. Maybe mistranslation or meant as a joke ha.
Other thing that I'm confused about is when the graphic potential rises, the viable world selection lessens? How does that make sense? Surely 2D worlds can still be picked. Hope this doesn't mean only real-life/3D animations are the only options now. (My Treasure Planet hopes..)
It's either a Nomura or Disney thing. In a FF mobile game (FFRK) he's involved with, he was able to give that game's gacha fanfic OC Jack of all trades character an Organization coat outfit and a Dive into the Heart sequence (something that was not extended to FFBE's KH Collab for example) but not the ability to wield keyblades (they were classed as their own equipment type and not swords) even tho the gacha fanfic character in question can use Barret's gun arms or Red XIII's hair combs/pins Lulu's dolls and Setzer's gambling gear as weapons.
Its either a big deal to Nomura or Disney that only the chosen can wield keyblades and it seems to be a non-negotiable thing that even Kirby can't circumvent lol.
I didn't think that was the case but I've seen some of the more out there takes about this and now I'm just like, "sure why not" lol
Because as the graphical potential rises and now they're using Unreal Engine 5, the amount of polygons everything uses gets bigger, graphical fidelity gets pushed and it costs more resources to make these worlds. Along with that, the worlds also get bigger and bigger every game and KH4's worlds will probably be much bigger than KH3's worlds judging by the scale of Quadratum (which KH3 easily already had 3 hours of content per world).
Instead of 7-8 worlds in KH3, we might only see like 4 Disney worlds but they will all be double the amount of content. I think that's what he's implying here. Just like 7 worlds in KH3 was a downgrade from like 14 worlds in KH2 but the worlds were all much bigger.
Tetsuya Nomura said:
That makes zero sense and sounds like Nomura is already trying to come up with an excuse for reducing the number of Disney worlds, focusing on Quadratum (or whatever Versus XIII leftover bs he's still fixated on incorporating), instead - to the detriment of what makes KH special.
Nomura implies that better "specs" can only produce better photorealistic graphics, which is just absurd (just look at Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apart). This is the kind of awful take you'd see on Reddit, not coming from someone with the game developer experience that he has.
Tetsuya Nomura said:
Again, he seems to completely miss the point of what caused players to be drawn to KH in the first place.
It's fitting that the series will likely feature a Star Wars world, because Nomura has basically turned into George Lucas. He's still adamant on doing his own thing, regardless if it's the best choice or not, because, in the end, it's still his creation and he can do whatever he wants with it.
The thing is, just like with SW, KH has become such a cultural phenomenon that it doesn't belong to its creator anymore. It belongs to the fans.
Swearing.circle said it best:
I'll also link to this ProZD's video, which sums up my thoughts on the franchise really well:
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How do you even get that?
Look at the worlds in KH3, they're multiple times bigger and more intricate than anything in previous titles. And there are less Disney worlds in that game than in previous title in large part due to the fidelity of visuals they want to achieve. Nomura is saying that this trend will continue every generation they move on to better hardware.
He's not implying that better specs only produce better photorealistic graphics. Your even reference Ratchet and Clank, which is a perfect example of what Nomura is saying. The graphics in that game are massively better than anything in prior titles and there are also FAR less planets and locations than most of the mainline series. Because of the increased fidelity they wanted to create much bigger, better worlds and as a result, there are fewer of them.
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I'm not at all surprised at the FF response or result, I think it was obvious and expected? I'd like a bit more, but I don't _need_ them, to be honest. Though I'd take any of them over Kairi, that's for sure...
Disney put the prologue of Rise of Skywalker exclusively in Fortnite, but they're supposedly over-protective of that one anime guy from some PlayStation games? It was always a ridiculous claim.
Yeah, this is what I understood his statement as. You get Quadratum as a Traverse Town hub but it's HUGE. Then you get Olympus Colosseum with the underworld, Earth, and Mount Olympus all 2x+ the size of the last time we saw it. Arendalle with castle town, wilds, and Northuldra forests from the sequel. Moana 2x as big as POTC was last time. Inside Out fully recreated as it looked in the movie. Star Wars ANH with Tatoinne, the Death Star, and Yavin all fully explorable. And maybe one or two others, but they're all so big they may as well be their own game entirely.
Canonically Smash characters aren't even the same characters as their main-series counterparts anyway. They're toys/figures of those characters that exist in a universe of their own.
Although funny enough, the Sora trailer kinda implies it's actually him, entering the universe, lol.
A Shimomura take on Duel of the Fates would be worth the cost of entry alone.
I'm pretty sure Nomura would jettison the Disney stuff if he could and make Kingdom Hearts its own thing without Disney and Final Fantasy being involved in it.
Because he mentions more realistic graphics later in the interview:
I don't think he's talking strictly about visual fidelity, as KH3 having fewer worlds had more to do with their scope, rather than their visuals.
Nomura himself stated, in a couple of interviews, that they wanted higher density worlds, in terms of gameplay, so players would spend more time on each one of them, rather than having multiple, smaller worlds.
From a Game Informer interview:
From a Famitsu interview (summarized by Gematsu):
It's a choice they made. Personally, I'd rather have more worlds with less stuff to do in them, instead of a few "hub" worlds (like he implies Quadratum will be).
Also, the same level of visual fidelity could be achieved across all of them if they were just smaller in scope, especially given the change to Unreal Engine and its streamlined pipelines. They already made a bunch of assets for KHIII that are "highly versatile", according to their environment art director, who affirmed they were able to create a large number of unique assets "in a relatively short period of time":
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