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Game developers, please, for the love of god, increase the text size in your games
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The best thing to do is to allow options. Have a default, but if I want to make the text bigger and suffer it looking like a mobile game, let me do that. Please.
Gears 5 is also terrible for this. Myself and my wife have to stand up and go right up to the screen to ready any of the onscreen text.
Is this a symptom of a push to 4K? Similar to what happened when we transitioned from standard to hi-def?
Is this a symptom of a push to 4K? Similar to what happened when we transitioned from standard to hi-def?
Real talk, in Pokemon the Japanese text size is perfect but when I switched to English the text for certain UI elements made me go "Holy FUCK this is way too small"
I mean, I can read it but it strains my eyes.
Even though I'm slightly nearsighted and never use my glasses, I can't agree with large text. Your TVs are too small, or you're sitting too far away.
Thank you OP. Yes. It's ridiculous. Not everyone plays on a 61" TV all the time. Make it configurable.
While I don't consider the text too small in any of the games you mention, accessability is key and not everyone has the same eyesight. So an option to make text bigger - or even better, to make it all kinds of sizes - should be standard.
With that said, I think most games look much worse with big text, they almost look like casual games. But a larger text should be an option.
Yup, that's a good point - large text just looks bad, as I said above. But - BUT - this is no excuse for excluding people who have a hard time reading that text. So, an increase text option should be present, even at the cost of the visual presentation.
I was fine with Fire Emblem and God of War, but Outer Worlds did it for me. I'm sitting a normal reasonable distance from my tv (like 6-8 feet maybe) and that game has some text within items descriptions, and such that I have to walk up to the tv and squint to see. This is with me wearing my glasses which give me 20/20 vision.
Thankfully at least the main dialogue text isn't quite as bad, but fully agree this shouldn't happen.
Thankfully at least the main dialogue text isn't quite as bad, but fully agree this shouldn't happen.
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Stuff like this makes me mad...
^ Yes, there is text here ^
Now compare it to a movie. I just don't get what's happening there.
Please compare these images and tell me that's ok.
Fucking hell, the subs in that second pic especially are just atrocious.Stuff like this makes me mad...
^ Yes, there is text here ^
What's weird is the text often doesn't even look acceptable on a monitor up close so how does it pass QA?
This, I don't understand why it isn't a normal thing to find in the options menu in games.
Holy shit, yes.
I made a rant about how boring a lot of menus in games were getting, and the argument I got back was "But it's function over form", which doesn't apply if the text is too small to be read.
Just look at these:
(This last image is at max text size)
I made a rant about how boring a lot of menus in games were getting, and the argument I got back was "But it's function over form", which doesn't apply if the text is too small to be read.
Just look at these:
(This last image is at max text size)
I wonder if the reason for people having a problem with this - and me not having a problem - is the distance vs TV size. I have a 55" TV and my armchair is 2m away from the TV. Rtings recommends 2.75m distance for 55" TVs, for example.
www.rtings.com
So, my question for those of you who have trouble reading text - is your distance larger than the one recommended above? The One Who Knocks - could you answer this, please, I am genuinely curious.
You too, please, could you look at the chart I posted in the link above and tell me if this is the case (are you sitting too far away from the TV). A genuine question, I totally support the option (as long as it's an option and not mandatory) to make the font bigger.
TV Size to Distance Calculator and Science
Our TV Sizes to Distance Calculator helps you choose the right size TV for your space. The optimal viewing distance is about 1.6 times the diagonal length of the television. For example, for a 55” TV, the best distance is 7 feet.
www.rtings.com
So, my question for those of you who have trouble reading text - is your distance larger than the one recommended above? The One Who Knocks - could you answer this, please, I am genuinely curious.
You too, please, could you look at the chart I posted in the link above and tell me if this is the case (are you sitting too far away from the TV). A genuine question, I totally support the option (as long as it's an option and not mandatory) to make the font bigger.
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I know bro, fuck Death Stranding
Agreed, and thank fuck for both consoles' zoom functions. That's priority number one for next gen OSs.
Darksiders 3 in-game subtitle size is ludicrous. And I can't pause to read that with zoom so hey, fuck your storyline!! Did I make that clear? Fuck off ludicrous subtitle sizes! I can bear smaller text in menus and shit while paused but cinematicd and gameplay subtitles need real size options. My tv is 32'', come ooon.
Darksiders 3 in-game subtitle size is ludicrous. And I can't pause to read that with zoom so hey, fuck your storyline!! Did I make that clear? Fuck off ludicrous subtitle sizes! I can bear smaller text in menus and shit while paused but cinematicd and gameplay subtitles need real size options. My tv is 32'', come ooon.
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WHAT THE FUCK, LOLHoly shit, yes.
I made a rant about how boring a lot of menus in games were getting, and the argument I got back was "But it's function over form", which doesn't apply if the text is too small to be read.
Just look at these:
(This last image is at max text size)
Agreed. Not all of us are 20 year olds with 20/20 vision. I can't believe how close I had to sit to my TV to see half the text and icons in Trails of Cold Steel 3, and it's definitely not the only (or worst) offender.
The reason is that these developers go against all guidelines of readability.
Have a look for yourself: https://bbc.github.io/subtitle-guidelines/
It's not the user...
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I'm a little out of the highest distance recommended at most times. However, the issue is even when I move closer (and am well within the range specified) I have issues with the subtitles in games (only games, movies and TV are fine).I wonder if the reason for people having a problem with this - and me not having a problem - is the distance vs TV size. I have a 55" TV and my armchair is 2m away from the TV. Rtings recommends 2.75m distance for 55" TVs, for example.
TV Size to Distance Calculator and Science
Our TV Sizes to Distance Calculator helps you choose the right size TV for your space. The optimal viewing distance is about 1.6 times the diagonal length of the television. For example, for a 55” TV, the best distance is 7 feet.
So, my question for those of you who have trouble reading text - is your distance larger than the one recommended above? The One Who Knocks - could you answer this, please, I am genuinely curious.
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Oh yeah, this is another one. Holy shit, this one is bad, which is exacerbated by HOW MUCH IS GOING ON ON SCREEN AT THE SAME TIME.
Thanks. Yeah, then, I hope devs start adding this option. I mean, Apple has been doing it on iPhones and iPads for a while - adjustable font size for all apps that support dynamic text and "zoomed" mode where everything is a little bit bigger.
This is an accessibility issue. Not a preference or a joking "Ha ha, get better eyes you dummy". It's frustrating as someone who has enjoyed this hobby for nearly 30 years to see others act so dismissively.
The problem lies with developers and gaming companies not taking accessibility seriously. Developers are often young and healthy. They sit inches from nice large computer screens making games in a single language (English, with translations as an after thought). The whole idea of allowing more people to enjoy a game in a larger, readable, text is still so new that we get excited when a single game does it right. It should be an industry standard and boring as fuck.
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The problem lies with developers and gaming companies not taking accessibility seriously. Developers are often young and healthy. They sit inches from nice large computer screens making games in a single language (English, with translations as an after thought). The whole idea of allowing more people to enjoy a game in a larger, readable, text is still so new that we get excited when a single game does it right. It should be an industry standard and boring as fuck.
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Yeah, I think offering the option - just the option - to increase text size should be enforced at the platform level. Maybe a force text specific zoom (I know each console has a Zoom feature, but it's a bit... well, it zooms everything when I would just want the text zoomed, lol).
Not debating you (thanks for the info), but I have no idea how much is 8% of the screen size, and how much % is text in, say, God of War. :) I'll have to take your word for it.
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And yet there are so many people disagreeing with it in this thread alone :(
