looks like for now players of war thunder will be locked to either PC/PS4 or PC/XBO cross-play, but the new policies might mean cross-progression between PC and PS4 would no longer be possible.
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Gaijin still discussing cross-play with Sony as their new policies add cross-progression limitations
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looks like for now players of war thunder will be locked to either PC/PS4 or PC/XBO cross-play, but the new policies might mean cross-progression between PC and PS4 would no longer be possible.
For whatever it's worth, the Modern Warfare beta had full, seamless cross-progression between PS4, PC and XB1 so I wonder what's going on here.
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Jim Ryan does seem to have his hand on the wheel pretty firmly judging from the quote that surfaced today. If anyone's gonna address this smartly it'll be him. Hope those conversations pan out (and everyone else comes around to cross progression)
Jim Ryan does seem to have his hand on the wheel pretty firmly judging from the quote that surfaced today. If anyone's gonna address this smartly it'll be him. Hope those conversations pan out (and everyone else comes around to cross progression)
For the players. Jesus if Microsoft plays their cards right I'm wondering how that will affect Sony in the long run. Also I wonder how third party devs feel about Sony besides the obvious big guys like Activision or Ubisoft. Cause Sony has been silent and prepping for next gen but it all feels a tad bit clunky
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i think it just means that certain big developers are still getting preferential treatment and the limitations aren't the same for smaller devs.
One step forward one step back. Hopefully this gets sorted out. It feels like we're so close to the true cross-play/progress future.
Sony only gives in for the big players like Activision or Epic. They better change these policies and double down on it when presenting the PS5.
This is the unfortunate truth. Smaller devs just don't get the focus like bigger devs do. Sony swung Crossplay and its probably how they got exclusive content as well.
Bummer..,.but yeah it still sounds like smaller indie devs will have trouble to get shit done.
The weird thing is that it's the small players that need it more so than the big ones as those depend on a much smaller playerbase for the game to remain active, a playerbase that's spread across multiple platforms
This says almost literally nothing and comes across like there's a bone to pick. There's probably as limitation to what terms he can talk about, but the only limitation to progression I could possibly see coming into play is if there's something unique for PS4 users (maybe something special/free for PS+ subs?) that Sony doesn't want to be on other platforms, which I understand completely.
Sony is still weird about smaller games. Look at how Chucklefish requested cross-play for Wargroove only to have it denied, despite Sony claiming "Our door is open".
In the 'CoD exclusive mode' thread, there were people saying that maybe the exclusive mode was Sony's concession for crossplay... this news kinda makes me wonder if maybe there is something to it. Maybe they keep this option on the negotiating table on a per game basis?
Agreed - unless they promised a few of the big games exclusive cross-progression?? sounds nuts, but its possible?
Yeah, unfortunately that might be the case which would be extremely shitty on Sony's part
I think the 1-year exclusive Spec Ops Survival Mode was just a trade for the previously announced 7 days exclusivity on all post-launch content. Activison and IW wanted cross-play but if PS4 players get everything (maps, modes, skins, guns etc.) a week earlier that obviously complicates things.
The same reason they can't do crossplay. They don't want to risk pissing off sony
Surely "I own this game on three platforms and can't carry my progress properly" is a problem that only hits a very small percentage of people.
its not the first time a ps account has blocked access. there was the whole deal with fortnite accounts
Easy. Any game that wants to release on PlayStation has to follow their rules. If they break this rule they will have their game removed from the PlayStation store.
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of course they can. the dev is saying previously cross-progression was possible between PC/PS4 (but not between PS4/XBO, as sony was blocking that), but the new policies would stop it even between PC/PS4. the same way they've been blocking it with XBO, they can do it with PC. sony has the power to not let you sell your game on their platform if you don't follow their rules.
Is that patch live now? I only played the PTS version.
But yeah, maybe it's on a per-game basis though? As far as we know, Gaijin has been one of the most vocal dev's on crossplay and trying to get their game supported (between consoles), there has to be some merit to what they're saying.
Yah yesterday the patch went live.
Honestly, i dont know what the fuck is going on, it seems cross play is fine but cross progression is being block?
That's moot for F2P games. And doesn't address the main benefit of cross play which substantially affects the health of an online game's player pool - and allows people to play together with their friends that might have another system.
This specific issue is about cross progression, but cross play is an even bigger problem that hasn't been solved yet because Sony has blocked it with some high profile exceptions.
True. Not everyone games on mutliple platforms, but then again, that makes the idea that they would limit it for one developer, whilst not for others all the more adverse.
BUT Double-dip and Triple-dip crew shouldn't be punished for our shameful ways, also gotta factor in F2P games here.
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that's possible, yeah. i didn't notice that the article is from yesterday. maybe starting today things have changed which makes the devs complaints no longer valid.
Reopening the thread with additional supporting information.
According to https://wccftech.com/gaijin-ceo-int...launched-war-thunder-on-steams-current-state/ which was published today,
According to https://wccftech.com/gaijin-ceo-int...launched-war-thunder-on-steams-current-state/ which was published today,
See either there is miscommunication or Sony really is giving favors to big studios considering stuff like MW has cross progression too.
You are indeed correct Dom, the information was posted in the OP. My bad.
None the less, given the full statement it seems there is still room for discussion on the issue as there is no reason to believe that the comments have definitively been made invalid by Sony opening up crossplay.
None the less, given the full statement it seems there is still room for discussion on the issue as there is no reason to believe that the comments have definitively been made invalid by Sony opening up crossplay.
I think this probably has something to do with the exclusive item deals (assuming their game has it) so it complicates things.
The interview was taken at least days ago (probably more, due to how they phrased it) which means it's outdated information. Sony just announced today crossplay and crossprogression would be free for all developers that wanted to implement. At this point this is just here to spread misinformation and an attempt at bashing a console manufacturer.
New policies are not just "better for cross-play". They also probably can add some limitations compared to the old ones. For instance, our PS4 players are currently able to play on PC keeping all their progress on the same account. It looks like that won't be possible with new policies applied.
As the article mentioned 'new' policies, it's hard to say if what Gaijin experiencing in terms of policies regarding progress has been addressed or not.
As the article mentioned 'new' policies, it's hard to say if what Gaijin experiencing in terms of policies regarding progress has been addressed or not.
Nah, full crossplay support from Sony probably rolled out a month ago (when Smite, Paladins and some other games received support).
Also, I don't think that exclusive items are the problem. Fortnite, Rocket League (and probably Modern Warfare) have it and there's no problem.
JFC Sony. I hope this isn't true. I'll keep watching until there is enough info, but man it doesn't sound good.
Sony didn't actually announce anything.
The news came from a wired article which specifically mentions that Sony isn't announcing any new policy, but notes that the cross play "beta" was over - something anyone could have realised given the number of PS4 titles that have received crossplay within the last month or so (CoD, PuBG, paladins, realm Royale, Crystal Chronicles, etc)
