That's really all that needs to be said. I have the game on Xbox. I won't be supporting this dev in the future if they feel I'm not worth their support.
Not sure why people want to defend this.
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Furi gets a new DLC titled "Onnamusha Rider" on May 17 on PC, PS4/PS5 and Nintendo Switch. (No Xbox due to lack of interest on the platform)
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Not sure why people want to defend this.
Small indie developer literally can't justify or afford an Xbox release of the new content. Cue overblown Era commentary.
If it were one of the bigger companies, I'd understand the ire, but The Game Bakers clearly aren't a huge dev. By saying that you won't support anything they do on Xbox in the future, you're really just proving them right, aren't you?
If it were one of the bigger companies, I'd understand the ire, but The Game Bakers clearly aren't a huge dev. By saying that you won't support anything they do on Xbox in the future, you're really just proving them right, aren't you?
I find it hard to hold it against an indie dev, it's just how it is sometimes.
Hope their next games fares better.
Gonna need to see some receipts on that one. If they're counting downloads of Game Pass indies, then... maybe?, but that doesn't necessarily translate into sales.
I wonder. Does this update include the Xbox only boss? Will that boss be included on the update with the free DLC? Or are they going to leave that one out to die on Xbox?
Probably because this is the kind of game he's talking about with his second point: It released at a time where Xbox was in dire straits and Game Pass wasn't a thing yet -- thus the game suffered on Xbox. Now, it's not being updated because of that lack of success.
And to be clear, I'm not saying that makes it totally okay, but rather it's just the reality of things. Plus there's always the chance they update it later once resources are available.
This literally means nothing. It's a 6 year-old single-player only indie game. Of course the numbers right now aren't going to be high.
Hyper Light Drifter has similar numbers right now, but are you going to argue that it bombed on PC?
Media reactions have been tepid, I think this thread has the same amount of views the YouTube trailer has. I do hope their gamble pays off because things aren't looking so hot.
Do people think the studio is rolling in cash or something? If they think they're going to lose money by porting a game to a platform than of course they aren't going to do it. They aren't doing it out of spite for fucks sake.
Game Bakers is a tiny studio, in this case the reasoning is understandable in picking where to put their efforts. However, this sucks for Xbox enthusiasts and I do understand being upset.
You think this being on Xbox would suddenly turn this into some massive success lol? Switch is going to most likely be the profit place.
What a reaction to a small dev saying they would lose money if they did an Xbox port.Small indie developer literally can't justify or afford an Xbox release of the new content. Cue overblown Era commentary.
If it were one of the bigger companies, I'd understand the ire, but The Game Bakers clearly aren't a huge dev. By saying that you won't support anything they do on Xbox in the future, you're really just proving them right, aren't you?
"Lose money anyway or it's fuck you on sight."
Our forum is supposed to be better than this. But we can turn into every other shithole when we don't get our way.
Honestly, now im curious. Heaven was not that well received, development is expensive and takes time. Maybe its kind of a try to get a short term cash infusion to be able to finish the next game?
Its just hard for me to grasp, why a 6 year old game gets payd DLC instead of a sequell, or the more typical "ultra deluxe complete edition". Seems as if the different wont be there, except that those editions get more press.
Its just hard for me to grasp, why a 6 year old game gets payd DLC instead of a sequell, or the more typical "ultra deluxe complete edition". Seems as if the different wont be there, except that those editions get more press.
Oh wow. This is amazing! This game totally blew me away when it came to Ps+. I legit knew nothing about it and gave it a blind shot, and it was maybe one of my favorite games last gen.
My post never said anything of the sort.
Also, you seem to believe that the Switch version will be the main seller, what happens if no one is interested but you just told a group to be gone?
last summer there was a whole thing about discoverabilty on the psn store and how some games barely sell there because of that, i dont know if that applies to all indies but i assume thats what the tweet is about
you can dig into this twitter thread from developers about sales comparisons
Small indie developer literally can't justify or afford an Xbox release of the new content. Cue overblown Era commentary.
If it were one of the bigger companies, I'd understand the ire, but The Game Bakers clearly aren't a huge dev. By saying that you won't support anything they do on Xbox in the future, you're really just proving them right, aren't you?
I don't think it's quite that simple. Regardless of your dev size, selling a game is a business move and making such moves that makes part of your consumer case upset is going to be something you have to weigh not just for the moment but long term as well.
Should a consumer who feels shafted by this just accept it and jump into whatever they do next? I don't think there's any clear cut right answer here (though I agree saying really overblown/negative things doesn't help anyone in this scenario).
It's truly a lose/lose situation for both parties. One isn't getting the content or chance to vote with their wallets after doing so. One doesn't have the budget/team to offer said DLC (And truth be told bringing the DLC to Xbox would entail new ports of the game as well since the original fury release on Xbox is for the base OG X1. So they couldn't just drop the DLC on there if they wanted as people would then be complaining it's not on par with the PS5 version).
I would still argue that a big company can take a loss easier then say a small indie developer.
There is a little bit more leway, when the question is "the losses will probably be recouped
by the next project" instead of "well if we dont get some money in we have to anounce bancrupcy".
Thats why more acceptance for a small scale operation should be kinda normal compared to billion dollar companies with regular shareholder payouts.
Heck, why dont those people stop buying games from any of the big 3, caust all of them as far as i know had games that they ported to more modern platforms with some addes bells and whistles.
Heck, nintendo moved all Wii U games with added content to the switch. I know, not the same. But nobody was pissed that old games on wii u did not get the added stuff as an update.
I assume they're busy with the game they're going to release on gamepass so that's why they cant port it.
The xbox version would essentially have to be 3 versions because it was originally for OG Xbox 1 so they'd have to make a port for
Xbox One X
Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X.
That sounds like a a lot of time for a small dev team for just one platform. In addition to making their new game.
The xbox version would essentially have to be 3 versions because it was originally for OG Xbox 1 so they'd have to make a port for
Xbox One X
Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X.
That sounds like a a lot of time for a small dev team for just one platform. In addition to making their new game.
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Oh I don't disagree. It's definitely a different scenario for a big publisher/dev versus a small one. More I was just saying those who did buy the game and feel cheated don't have to necessarily be 100% ok with the fact.
If you tweet at them and tell them you're interested, that's more likely to get you what you want than saying you're never gonna support them again on a message board
Also this. The current Twitter replies would make me cancel any chance I had of considering bringing it back lol.
I get it from a pure business perspective on costs, but this is just a terrible PR move, and doesn't really inspire confidence to potential customers in the future. It's no surprise they didn't move many copies on xbox launching months later and after it was "free" on ps4, so that's kinda a weird cop out.
Really feels like this is something you maybe take a little hit on cost and try to recoup with a good sale on base game when the DLC hits, especially of they could get Furi added on Gamepass shortly before the DLC, would be hitting up my contact at MS hard about that.
Really feels like this is something you maybe take a little hit on cost and try to recoup with a good sale on base game when the DLC hits, especially of they could get Furi added on Gamepass shortly before the DLC, would be hitting up my contact at MS hard about that.
These are fair points, and it's indeed a lose / lose situation. I'm not saying Xbox players don't have the right to be disappointed by this, because they absolutely do, it's just that we could probably do without the exaggerated "we're being treated as second class citizens!" and "I'm never supporting this studio again!" Gamer commentary. It really rubs me the wrong way that people are responding that way, even after being told that the devs can't justify putting the money into an Xbox version. It sucks for their fans on that platform, I get it, but personally, I'd never go as far as cutting ties with a developer over something like this, especially when they've said their support for the Xbox ecosystem isn't over and done with.
oh okay. Well, you never HAVE to feel okay, and i also get being dissapointed by the developer in that case.
Just some here really dont seem to se a difference.
great pricing and inclused the other dlc i hadnt bought yet
It's very possible, and even likely, that Furi would not have been remotely as successful on PS4 if it wasn't a PS Plus title. They took many steps to get their game prioritized on PS4 and ended up creating their own problem. This is pretty shitty for Xbox owners.
I'm going to snag it on the Switch as I have a decent amount of gold coins that could soften the blow. Though, I must remain strong and not support practices like this one again.
I do think it would have fared better on GWG but I imagined MS blocked it.
You do understand there a chance it may not sell? I don't want the dlc to fail, I'm even planning to buy the Switch version instead.
I do think it would have fared better on GWG but I imagined MS blocked it.
You do understand there a chance it may not sell? I don't want the dlc to fail, I'm even planning to buy the Switch version instead.
Okay? That has nothing to do with your previous point.
Anyway, Steam owners will likely find out the info through... well, Steam. Either through the front page/pop-up news section or, more likely, through the personalized news section seen here (green box):
If the DLC fails at Steam/Switch a Xbox version wouldn't save it anyway (especially considering the cost of porting first)
Tbh, I think there's a big chance of it coming to Xbox if they make their money back elsewhere
Any number of scenarios are plausible, we don't know what their prior exclusive launch agreement conditions were.
Xbox One indies will probably always sell less good than the other console (except for gamepass word to mouth bump).
But techincally think by making this DLC, they are losing money, really don't think by making this, they are going to make new people that were not going to pick it up, to get it. Releasing a DLC 6 years after release, is not going to really bump their sale on the others consoles.
But techincally think by making this DLC, they are losing money, really don't think by making this, they are going to make new people that were not going to pick it up, to get it. Releasing a DLC 6 years after release, is not going to really bump their sale on the others consoles.
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The Wii U version of Arkham Origins sold so poorly they cancelled announced DLC and the Wii U version of Injustice 1 didn't get any of the DLC characters.
