I heard that too
Man, these guys are obnoxious whether its anime comics or games
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Fuck the fandom menace/right wing reactionary fandom bullshit that plagues Youtube and infests movie discussion
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Man, these guys are obnoxious whether its anime comics or games
Guys PDP isn't a racist, he just *checks notes*
-has a history of racism right down to straight up calling someone "a fucking nigger" via a freudian slip, which totally doesn't indicate that he says the word regularly enough for it to happen
-followed a slew of white supremacists/racists/nazis on twitter
-linked his fanbase to literal nazi propaganda
wait... 🤔
Instead of complaining about the way studios handle diversity in media why don't YOU put your money where your mouth is, stop taking advantage of Youtube's shit algorithm, and delete your video. And also get better at watching and understanding movies.
-has a history of racism right down to straight up calling someone "a fucking nigger" via a freudian slip, which totally doesn't indicate that he says the word regularly enough for it to happen
-followed a slew of white supremacists/racists/nazis on twitter
-linked his fanbase to literal nazi propaganda
wait... 🤔
How is literally spending millions on the creation of overtly feminist and diverse media across various mediums, as in film, television, comic books, etc. not putting their money where their mouth is?
Maybe have the self awareness to acknowledge that you directly contributed to and profited off of the multiple years of racist and sexist fueled toxicity that came from certain segments of the media fans with your shitty "critique" video. Which included the director and actors getting harassed for years. Hell, you're STILL contributing to it and profiting off of it by having that video up.
Instead of complaining about the way studios handle diversity in media why don't YOU put your money where your mouth is, stop taking advantage of Youtube's shit algorithm, and delete your video. And also get better at watching and understanding movies.
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No need to feel bad about it. These assholes are generally right if you strip away every racist caveat and bullshit "SJW" complaint.
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Delete my pro-diversity video to help promote diversity?
That makes sense.
I bet you guys hate that I spend the first six minutes arguing to expand a female character's role in the story, lol.
A good few years ago I'd be one to click on those sorts of videos but now I can only cringe whenever they get shoved into my reccomended videos. People just love being angry and they love having some "SJW" boogeyman to hate against because they're too close-minded to hate the people who are actually causing most of today's problems (probably because they want to be, or already are, those people themselves).
Yeah, despite the insinuations from people here that I must hold the same views as these people my own views regarding TLJ couldn't be any more removed from people who see characters like Holdo, Rose and Rey and immediately start trying to hate them because they view their inclusion as "SJW Propoganda." However I don't think you should feel like shit for it because, frankly, that's what these people would love; they'd want you to think that disliking TLJ for legitimate reasons puts you on "their side," because it legitimises their own shitty opinions. Similarly don't allow people who disagree with you about the film try and put you into that camp mentally either as that can only be bad for your own mental wellbeing.
Yeah, despite the insinuations from people here that I must hold the same views as these people my own views regarding TLJ couldn't be any more removed from people who see characters like Holdo, Rose and Rey and immediately start trying to hate them because they view their inclusion as "SJW Propoganda." However I don't think you should feel like shit for it because, frankly, that's what these people would love; they'd want you to think that disliking TLJ for legitimate reasons puts you on "their side," because it legitimises their own shitty opinions. Similarly don't allow people who disagree with you about the film try and put you into that camp mentally either as that can only be bad for your own mental wellbeing.
Pro-diversity video that completely misinterprets the overall message of a specific plotline involving a woman and a man who was in the wrong.
Exactly my point, Plum. If you make the distinction that disliking a Star Wars movie is "alt-right," good liberals who happen to dislike the movie will feel pushed towards those camps.
It's dangerous, and only helps to radicalize people rather than pull them back. Let people hate on Star Wars without putting a label on them. It's pop culture flotsam, not a crucial civil rights issue.
It's dangerous, and only helps to radicalize people rather than pull them back. Let people hate on Star Wars without putting a label on them. It's pop culture flotsam, not a crucial civil rights issue.
Why exactly do you think your video is favored in alt right circles and causes the algorithm to start recommending the user anti-diversity videos? I'm so curious as to why you think that specifically happens. 🤔
Yes, but what I'm saying is that that they're right about the movies being bad, (TLJ and Marvel movies) they're just wrong about why they're bad.
Nah m8, your videos are exactly the kind of video I criticised in the bit above my quoted section so please don't try and rope me in to your side like that.
I don't need you to agree with my take, but you do seem to recognize there's nothing political about my dislike of the movie. It doesn't disqualify me as a liberal.
That's bullshit, I dislike the movies they dislike but that common opinion isn't going to make me turn to their side politically, nor make me agree with their complaints. My complaints about a lot of the current big time pop culture movies is poor film making and writing, their complaint is minorities, (aka forced diversity) women, and pink hair bad.
Honestly I dont give a damn about these channels. What's most egregious is that YouTube not only allows it, they promote it via the algorithm. They're complicit. And then their answer has been measures that punishes literally EVERYONE, except forcing accountability on the bad actors. Sargon of Akkad still has a channel. Crowder still has a channel. Pewdiepie (whom I once defended for edgy humor, then went on to drop multiple hard-R N words) faced next to no consequences proportionally to his size.
YouTube desperately needs a competitor that will aggressively attack it the same way Epic Games Store and Mixer are trying to butt in to the market.
These channels are but a symptom. Youtube is the disease
All crying about some nebulous problem, presenting zero reasonable solutions, all with titles featuring "DESTROYED, OWNED, DEVASTATED REEEEEEE"
And you can see fools like Tim Pool and HA Goodman hook onto that teet in real time simply because of YouTube promoting it. And weirdly, Pool used to be a decent dude working g for Vice IIRC, reporting the Ferguson incident from the ground. Goodman was a "progressive" that became a MAGA chud for the grift. Dave Rubin ate up that Koch money and left Progressive TYT for it lol
Its embarrassing.
YouTube desperately needs a competitor that will aggressively attack it the same way Epic Games Store and Mixer are trying to butt in to the market.
These channels are but a symptom. Youtube is the disease
Yep, I jumped down the red pill rabbit hole for a few months. I climbed out seeing every single one of them as 100% grifts.
All crying about some nebulous problem, presenting zero reasonable solutions, all with titles featuring "DESTROYED, OWNED, DEVASTATED REEEEEEE"
And you can see fools like Tim Pool and HA Goodman hook onto that teet in real time simply because of YouTube promoting it. And weirdly, Pool used to be a decent dude working g for Vice IIRC, reporting the Ferguson incident from the ground. Goodman was a "progressive" that became a MAGA chud for the grift. Dave Rubin ate up that Koch money and left Progressive TYT for it lol
Its embarrassing.
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How about big money remakes of progressive films? To Kill A Mockingbird. 12 Angry Men and others.
Paying writers big bucks to make modern progressive novella into film. Using the marketing budgets that the Marvel and Star Wars films get to promote the progressive films so a wide audience will see them.
Hell, not allowing the writer of The Last Jedi do such a rubbish job of portraying the progressive messages would have helped.
Watch Fisher, Portman, Tran, Dern and Ridley do their stuff. They make it look effortless. But the writing wasn't good and it looked shoehorned in.
Pointing this shit out in a 'comedic' way isn't alt-right.
This isn't Bannon level bait and switch. Or Edward Bernays PR propaganda in action.
Your going for low hanging fruit. Aim higher.
This.
Harassing Rose's actress on twitter because she's a woman in TLJ? Bad idea.
Criticizing Rose's plot arc because of shit writing in a far shittier movie? Fine idea.
Hating a Star Wars movie that can't even be better than the Holiday Special does not make one a Nazi.
This is exactly why tone policing diversity makes no sense.
Yea saying that diversity is just shoehorned just helps radicalize the normies. That's not that bad.. 😃 Wait...
Can you give us an example of where someone specifically said "if you dislike TLJ, you are alt right" ?
Because that's not the reason people are calling you alt right, it's because you cater to their interests by using their language in your work. You could be a huge fan of the movie for all we care but as long as you incorporate alt right talking points into your work, you'll be considered a caterer to them.
And buddy, if a random person on the internet is enough to push someone to the alt right, they were going down that route regardless.
That's the issue. You think that the talking points themselves are "alt-right."
One can be a liberal and also dislike what they perceive as heavy-handed or clumsy political correctness. Those aren't mutually exclusive positions.
One can be a liberal and also dislike what they perceive as heavy-handed or clumsy political correctness. Those aren't mutually exclusive positions.
The only people who care about this stuff are incel and the incels obsessed.
Seriously no one normal cares it even knows of the existance of this stuff.
You're in a YouTube filter bubble
Seriously no one normal cares it even knows of the existance of this stuff.
You're in a YouTube filter bubble
That sentiment has likely helped push thousands of young people into alt-right spaces.
There is no political correctness in TLJ. You ONLY complain about political correctness in your videos when it deals with strong women/toxic masculinity.
You scream forced political correctness only when it deals with this.
Laying the groundwork for what was already obvious I see.
Also, good liberals, huh? Do good liberals really take shitty non-apologies from obvious racists at face value while holding companies that are trying to promote the opposite to a far higher standard? I don't think so.
i just ask that you, a good liberal, don't come after me if you start inching towards the white supremacist side. thank you
Considering how the pro-TLJ community tends to react to me I'd like to ask who you're laughing at here? :P
No? I recognise that you can dislike the film without holding shitty political views about it. Never said anything about your or your own opinions.
EDIT: Just saw your "good liberal" point. Nope. If you're basing your entire political leaning on people being irrational on the internet then you're a lost cause because most people are irrational on the internet. As someone who literally did the opposite of what you're saying (albeit at a time where the alt-right was much less emboldened and openly-terrible as they are now) I can say that my change in political perspective came from becoming a better person and had nothing to do with what other people said about me.
For me it was stepping back and thinking "Why the fuck is this a problem?" My problem with The Last Jedi was that it was a mediocre film in a franchise I loved that did things to characters I disagreed with; their problem with The Last Jedi is that it's somehow indicative of some SJW plot to take down cinema and that we're all doomed because of it. All it takes is one look outside the window to realise how idiotic such a notion is, and thankfully I took that look outside the window and have long since moved past that dark period of my life.
People on this site have literally told me that there's no possible way to dislike the Holdo/Poe story arc unless you're either stupid or sexist. Then of course there's the many 'insinuations' that rarely quote people but do more than enough to say what you're quoting there.
However the difference between myself and the "good liberals," as someone who's been on the receiving end of such comments is that I'm not going to suddenly start believing in or doing anything to support alt-right ideals because of them. I just ignore those comments and move on because I don't base my political beliefs on people being mean on the internet.
Ok, so I'm a bad liberal.
I'll consider my pushing for socialist programs and fairer policing to offset my awful crimes of not believing PewDiePie is a member of the nazi party and not trusting Proctor & Gamble to care about anything beyond profit.
Making videos like this also helps push thousands of young people into alt-right spaces mr "liberal"
Why specifically did you choose to wear a pink wig and make the exact same gender joke, among others, that alt righters make in the intro of your video?
Making videos like this also helps push thousands of young people into alt-right spaces mr "liberal"
Why specifically did you choose to wear a pink wig?
We're now arguing that respect for pink hair is a necessary liberal value? lol
If comments made by random people online are enough to make someone join a neo nazi community, that problem lies in the maturity and mental state of those joining, not in the comments made. We shouldn't have to coddle every immature white man online who's one criticism away from binging on Mein Kampf at the expense of everyone else.
That brings up a different discussion about the world outside the internet (economy, jobs, wages, etc) and how these factors may be causing the poor mental states and self images that truly drive these extreme changes.
You know very well the stereotype you making fun of with that.
You mock "woke" culture in this video and mock diversity and representation (lolollol what about veggie representation for example).
Plum we disagree on times but like I said with Ryuotaro, I am glad I get to disagree with sane good people like you.
fuck this sexist asshole Vito.
Not making jokes about trans people, not making fun of gay pride, not making fun of people being proud of their heritage, and in general not dogwhistling to the alt right/GG while demonizing game journalists is what I would consider necessary liberal values.
Like what's the fucking punchline here?
You're a liberal in the same way that shitheels like Sargon are "liberals."
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The discourse on here is just as intellectual as I'd heard, lol. Plenty of personal insults, limited substance.
no, but you're consciously using "anti SJW" tropes and imagery (pink hair = SJW / feminist / trans / whatever) to bait for the clicks of right-wing viewers.
Like, in a way, i respect the hustle, but let's stop pretending that isn't what you're doing with many of your thumbnails / video titles. Guy's gotta eat, i get that... But let's drop that weirdly coy act.
(unless this is some right of passage thing, like you farming for some great material for some "REEEEE ERA" video ...)
It actually is! Because claiming feminism is "forced political correctness" is guess what....alt-right!
I'll let the polling station know I'm a secret right winger as I pen my write-in vote for Yang.
Voting democrat doesn't give you a free pass. You whine about feminism and calling it forced politically correctness in countless videos.
that's sexist.
Feminism isn't "forced political correctness." Plenty of feminist values I agree with, as I cover in some of my other videos.
I can't agree with this statement.
I don't think we've ever agreed lol
Yeah, you're a real hero. Someone who obviously has true, progressive values.
Some gems from your definitely-rooted-in-liberal-values "The Last Jedi is a Cinematic Failure" video:
(7:32) Mock the #MeToo movement "#BelieveWomen", a preface for your sexist tirade about Holdo, rich with misogynistic bullshit.
Refer to Holdo as "the purple haired lady", "The lesbian bookstore owner", and the person who "looks like she's about to hold an intersectional lecture on modern afro-centric feminism, rather than command a fleet of rebel soldiers, but Leia gets knocked the fuck out, so the liberal arts major is up to bat" (7:35).
Then attempt to soften the blow with "just to be clear, this isn't an attack on diversity!", followed up by the hashtag "#TrustWomen" when describing Poe's and Holdo's interactions. Mocking Holdo as a "capable, independent woman", mocking even more because you apparently just couldn't get enough of shitting on women: "hastag, #MeToo, hastag, #TimesUp" (this rant is a continuation of 7:35 timestamp, now at 9:45).
Then, just to make your audience sure you're definitely very progressive and not at all a complete bigoted tool, preface with "I'm all for diversity" yet again, softening the blow before claiming that everyone got themselves into trouble because they "didn't trust women enough.. jesust fucking christ". Again referring to her as "this purple haired lady" (11:23), yet again "I know it's supposed to be said that the purple hair lady died"
"Rian Johnson's attempt to inject feminism into SW has backfired horribly" complaints about "jamming politically correct politics into a kids movie"
Ah yes, now we've arrived as the "Rose Sucks" section of your video. Yay, more prefacing to soften your shitty, bigoted commentary! "Whoever plays her [Kelly Tran BTW] seems like a very nice lady and someone who deserves a much better script". No, you don't refer to Rose as "the yellow bitch", you refer to her as "the dumb Asian lady" (15:27). Big difference, right!? Then, "what is this dumb bitch talking about?" (15:35). So glad we could clear up this misunderstanding.
"the dumb Asian bitch" is clearly not the same and definitely not worse than "the yellow bitch" in your eyes, right?
I see you, you're not fooling anyone. There is no conspiracy. You're knowingly peddling alt-right content and playing dumb when it's called out. It's right there in your content, plain as day.
And you can fuck right off.
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At best they can be right in a broken-clock way, like how Trump sometimes stumbles onto genuine problems (like the longstanding issue of NATO countries not meeting their obligations or rampant state-sanctioned IP theft from the Chinese) but arrive at those conclusions for completely the wrong reasons and to support the wrong narrative.