why would I waste my money on something so useless.
That's all fancy and everything but the only thing I strive for is whatever I want when I want.
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fuck capitalism
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Ask me the question again when you die alone, unloved, loathed, and remembered for what you are.
Is this missing the /s? I fucking hope so. I legit can't tell anymore. If this is true though...holy shit.
Join a trade, work 60 hours a week, don't eat out, drive a used car or ride a bike if possible, don't buy anything you don't need and if you do need something try craigslist thrift stores etc, rent a small room instead of an apartment. This will get you out debt in no time, but you gotta really want it.
No offense, but this kind of normative rhetoric is indistinguishable from historical and contemporary justifications for unjust social orders.
unfortunately for you life isn't so wrote, reality doesn't play out like a Christmas Carol lol.
ah the whole 'people are inherently evil and greedy' with nothing to back it up outside of their own projections onto society is always a nice one
imagine this type of laissez faire attitude toward any other issue.
"Secondly, the impression I get from the posts on here is like racism is some kind of new concept, it's been here for centuries, and very ingrained into our society.
"sorry minorities, you're SOL. just gotta hope it gets better'
sucker ass 'pragmatic moderate' shit honestly.
You can either perfect what youhave so its more fair and just or you can destroy everything and hope the next system is better. I mean, Im down to watch from thousands of miles away if the 2nd one works out for you guys but Im not sure the majority of your fellown countrymen are down for it.
Do you mean rote? Because that means something rather different than the magic of a Christmas Carol.
In the thread "What can I do to make you happy?" you posted:
By being just as miserable as me.
So...
You're right, debt is just a natural part of life like hunger and morningwood.
Or they grew up in germany suffering poverty under HartzIV laws, literally having to beg others for food at times and even tho they are now well off still carry those mental scars and desire a system that doesn't force kids to starve.
I'm still studying Computer Science. Started it, got Bafög, but then my mom got cancer, had to take care of her, and she died. During that time i didn't finish all the classes i want, cause it was a hard time, 1cp was missing for me to continue getting Bafög.
There is a way to push for one more semester to get the cps you need to show to them , but they said all this stress and my mod dying (i'm single child, so had to do all by myself, and she had no husband) wasn't a good enough reason for me to continue getting Bafög, so i had to get KFW-Credit, which has like 5-7% Zins.
It really was stupid to not continue giving me Bafög, but that's life, i just continued doing what i wanted. And yeah, i will have to pay back like 30.000 Euros, but there are worse things in life, then having some debt you have ti pay :D.
Man muss ja so einen Leistungsnachweis vorzeigen. Man kann zwar um Aufschub bitten, aber das ist wohl nicht so leicht. Zu mir haben die damals gesagt, all der Stress/Tod etc., ist kein triftiger Grund, wenn jedoch der Student, oder die Freundin von dem Student schwanger wäre, dann hätte man es bekommen können.
Not really, Germany has a social-market-economy. University is free, but there are some restrictions, like
- If you are studying full time, you are not allowed to work more then 20hrs per week
- You get a student contract when you work, and you are not allowed too earn much
- If you earn too much, they cut your Bafög (Bafög is like state loan, where you have to pay only half of it back)
etc.
This, life is not always easy, but you have to fight through it.
Oh give me a break. I grew up in hartz IV with a single mom and we never once complained about capitalism. My mom always made sure me and my sister were working for a good education while she worked her 1€ job and we lived with our grand parents. Capitalism isn't the problem it's politicans going away from our social democratic system to the neoliberal reforms we had since schröder.
We need some good old regulation of capitalism but it's still vastly preferable to anything else.
I sympathize with you. Unfortunately the system isn't very flexible and a lot of civil servants hide behind their laws. Hope things will pick up for you :)
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I'm not entirely convinced capitalism needs to or even can be dismantled, I'm just noting how defending it on the grounds of being an engine of progress which only requires studious oversight to clean up its excesses is the same language people used to justify atrocities like chattel slavery, which at the time seemed inevitable but in the end were not.
User banned (1 week): thread derail, trolling over a series of posts
I just wanted to see what he'd say in response.
Oh, so you're just trolling - looking for attention from others because it makes you feel good. So you really are miserable.
This! My Mom was under HartzIV for years, and it's not so bad, as people point it out. Yes, there are restrictions, but she still got payed for all hospital treatments, rent etc., and she had a bit left, not much, but she could live on it. I can't imagine how it would've been somewhere else.
I think people have a hard time accepting that Capitalism will (inherently) have winners and losers. The strength of the system is that there are a lot of opportunities for people to roll again and change directions. "Loser" is also a relative term and doesn't mean your life has to suck just because other people are doing better or have it easier.
Most of the "lost cause" stories I read online are Americans with massive medical debt and/or pre-existing conditions (handicapped), people who screwed up and ended up with unplanned children they can't afford (can't cut back to save money without hurting the children), or people trapped having to support their family. Going $40K in debt with an unmarketable degree sucks, but those types of problems are ultimately self-inflicted.
If you're ablebodied and independent there is a lot of opportunity to improve your life over time. Less so if you're not, but that's where the social safety net is supposed to come in.
And when the good ol fashioned regulation gets in the way of profits, we can just get away with them! What a good system!
I think people have a hard time accepting that capitalism mandates that the "winners" have to fuck over the "losers" and profit off the theft of their labor.
Relative to what? Feudalism?
Yeah. Would it be better growing up rich?Probably but we always had a warm roof over our head, a caring mom and enough to eat.
Thanks to her pushing me into education i now work in a very decent job earning around 70-80k (depending on bonus payments) this year and i try to make sure my mother gets a nice rest of life.
Really glad to hear, that you look up after your mother, you are a good son :).
To be honest, i'm kinda getting tired of people always complaining, just fight, for god's sake, at least you have all the possibilities, no matter how you grow up, and that's what i love about Germany. I went from not really wanting to study in highschool, to apprenticeship, made my abitur later, and now studying, and already earning good money. A little bit of debt is nothing, if i can achieve my goals.
Yes, capitalism sucks and breeds inequality
Now, is this a thread for dunking on the only existing economic system or does OP want to elaborate on their gripe and maybe get some help? Otherwise this is sort of like, this game sucks because my controller is bad
Now, is this a thread for dunking on the only existing economic system or does OP want to elaborate on their gripe and maybe get some help? Otherwise this is sort of like, this game sucks because my controller is bad
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Don't know the circumstances of the OP, but inversely my wife came from Russia with so little opportunity to succeed, grow and making a high waged living as an IT professional.
She has now been in the US for 4 years and she went from barely being able to afford to eat, skipping meals and having 5 roommates - to now making 80k a year. She recognizes that in very few other countries she would have had that opportunity.
Sometimes people don't realize what they have.
She has now been in the US for 4 years and she went from barely being able to afford to eat, skipping meals and having 5 roommates - to now making 80k a year. She recognizes that in very few other countries she would have had that opportunity.
Sometimes people don't realize what they have.
Good, pull another person out of the game. More for the rest of us. :)
It was very hard to significantly improve your life in a 2nd world country without having connections to either the government or the black market. Under capitalism it's possible to start as a nobody and do better over time (assuming there's nothing holding you back).
In terms of competing systems in the world I'm not seeing anything that offers more personal agency.
"Hey I'm really going through some shit"
"Oh damn, tell more about the shit you're going through"
"ZOMG you're part of the problem!!"
And that it's always been about "more for me".Love that you admit that it's all a game. Keep at it, breh.
Yes, if a person reads Marx, they won't ever have a job under capitalism again. That's exactly what happens.
*eyeroll*
Every time somebody takes up anti-capitalist views, every capitalist gets $1 added to their bank account via magic.
Vast majority of the time those people aren't even doing all that well and are still being screwed over by the obscenely rich while they gloat about the prospect of wealth.
They are not poor, they are temporarily embarrassed millionaires waiting for that big break that is SURELY destined to happen everyone!
More specifically: don't buy Apple products. I cannot take anyone seriously who complains about capitalism on the one hand, but happily buys overpriced Apple devices on the other hand.
Love that you admit that it's all a game. Keep at it, breh.
Thanks, gotta keep gridin' and pulling myself up, no one else is going to do it for me. c:
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It's not like representative democracy as the US has implemented it is any better...