It was a really good horror movie. Lost to time because an animated movie with the same name came out
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Frozen is a bit overrated, no?
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It was a really good horror movie. Lost to time because an animated movie with the same name came out
Frozen just feels fraught with development issues. The song padding in the beginning is atrocious, and the plotting and characterization is a bit tepid, like they didn't know a direction to go in regarding Elsa (boo on them for being cowards and not making her a villain). It is, ultimately, a serviceable film that is carried more by pop culture permeation than its own real merits.
I happened to see it a week before it released with a Q&A featuring the directors, so I was able to watch it before all the hype happened. I thought it was fantastic. I really think people would have felt differently about it if it wasn't plastered everywhere. Still really love it.
Personally I think the result was better having Elsa not be the villain.
Basically all of the Disney films mentioned have development issues: Tangled and Moana had many rewrites (even complete changes in direction) as well and are uneven at points. I do think as a film Frozen (1) is fine, while I feel like Frozen 2 had major major plot holes/head scratching moments.
I also think if you take an adult's perspective on a lot of films we consider Disney classics, you'll see the same things.
The appeal is indeed mainly the well-developed female leads (not a given for Disney, especially at the time), and Idina Menzel singing one of the most memorable Disney songs. But it obviously aims at a more traditional Disney demographic than, say, Moana, or even Tangled.
I'm pretty sure the target audience for Frozen doesn't particularly overlap with the general ResetEra user.
Could be wrong tho
Could be wrong tho
Like Hakuna Matata for modern times?
I don't think it's necessarily saying to deal with your problems in an unhealthy way, though.
She's running away and isolating herself to avoid conflict instead of trying to communicate. The song is ironic because she's really just doing what her parents made her do.
It was a fine movie, but I tend to also be on the "Tangled is better" bandwagon.
Doubt we will see a movie that had as crazy a desire for merchandise than Frozen did that first holiday it was out.
Doubt we will see a movie that had as crazy a desire for merchandise than Frozen did that first holiday it was out.
What is she going to communicate? Doesn't she run away because she lost her temper and almost killed the Duke or whoever? She goes off on her own and is basically happy because she's free to use her powers for the first time without hurting anyone, and she gains more control over them as a result. Of course she had no way of knowing that her outburst had cast an eternal winter or anything, and she had to go back and address it (and also Anna's injury).
It doesn't strike me as wanting people to be irresponsible and shirking their duties, but of not having the continual burden of being who other people want you to be all the time.
Then Frozen 2 shows us that she didn't even need to remain in Arrendale at all anyway.
Frozen has the best Disney/Pixar short film of all time. For that it boosts the film into good territory for me no matter what.
I remember seeing it and theatres excited cause I loved Tangled so much, and i remember leaving pissed and annoyed. I get why people love it, i just hated it. And i hated the music.
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Well yes obviously but I'm more speaking to it being not only highly critically appraised but also such a huge pop culture phenomenon. I watched it out of boredom and with that bias in my head. From what everyone has mentioned, seems like the musical aspect had a huge role to play along with some subversion of the fairy tale tropes leading to an empowerment story. I can see that. I'm only surprised because I thought many other Disney and non-Disney movies were just better over the last 5-10 years.