It is because he meant the end of the Xehanort arc/Dark Seeker saga.
No more Xehanort after III. He's done as a villain.
good looking KH on the go? sounds greatCan't you see the pattern? These spin-off games will be released exclusively on Switch.
I played every KH game except for DDD and I had NO idea what was going on for the majority of the game until I looked up a summary. The BBS stuff wasn't even really relevant until the very end of the game.
The story is still pretty bad though. Confusing and interesting would be one thing, this was confusing and check your phone waiting for the cutscenes to end.
That would mean Xion would be tossed aside and never utilized though. Nomura wouldn't do that to Xion, she is too good.
That would mean Xion would be tossed aside and never utilized though. Nomura wouldn't do that to Xion, she is too good.
I mean that's kinda your fault. DDD directly leads up to KH 3 and is KH 2's direct sequel.
That's a really weird "end of the story arc" in my book considering that the overarching plot part of which Xehanort was (and not even that important part of, if we go by the book of prophecies) is nowhere near to being over and there's a shitload of plot thread left dangling both in the past and in the future after the epilogue. Except for finishing off Xehanort(s), what did KH3 do for the lore of the series?It is because he meant the end of the Xehanort arc/Dark Seeker saga.
No more Xehanort after III. He's done as a villain.
"It's your fault that across the span of 17 years you played a PS2 game, then a GBA game, then a PS2 game, then a DS game, then a PSP game, then a mobile game and you didn't think to play the single 3DS game before playing this PS4 game"
That's a really weird "end of the story arc" in my book considering that the overarching plot part of which Xehanort was (and not even that important part of, if we go by the book of prophecies) is nowhere near to being over and there's a shitload of plot thread left dangling both in the past and in the future after the epilogue. Except for finishing off Xehanort(s), what did KH3 do for the lore of the series?
BBS and DDD aren't spin offs. Neither will whatever comes between 3 and 4 beBut why? Just do Kingdom Hearts 4. There is literally no need to do more spin offs.
Kingdom Hearts doesn't do spin offs. And the next one is probably going to be a prequel to explain things in the lead up to KH4But why? Just do Kingdom Hearts 4. There is literally no need to do more spin offs.
All the games have been on PS4 for years now so yeah, it kinda is.
Does the game need to be on a different platform as well to not be "really ridiculously jarring"?Nomura jumping into KH4 based on the plot points he set up with the epilogue and secret movie would be really ridiculously jarring, he absolutely needs at least one game to set it up
Uhhhh ... Switch players will take whatever they get. Did you see the Pokemon reveal?Why do people think it would be a switch exclusive
I highly highly doubt that. It's not like the switch is a DS or something. If they made a KH game for the switch it would have to be a full scale one. Makes absolutely no sense to make it exclusive to the switch
2/10Uhhhh ... Switch players will take whatever they get. Did you see the Pokemon reveal?
KHuX Remastered that looks like Chain of Memories RE and it'll be well recieved.
the pokemon reveal? what about it?Uhhhh ... Switch players will take whatever they get. Did you see the Pokemon reveal?
You'll have to fight hordes of fanboys seeing how she's the only female KH character that's worth a freaking damn in this franchise.True. Okay, Xion is now the main heroine. Kairi can just stay Sora's lover interest since that's all Nomura thinks she's good for.
And Aqua is mai waifu.
I'm guessing they thought it was subpar and clearly anyone who actually liked it must have low standards and thus "take whatever they get."
Yeah I think one's fine (plus we already have the mobile game going) they'd be nuts to do a ton of spin-offs between 3 and 4 and repeat what happened with 2 and 3. It was understandable at the time though, ton of platforms to put stuff on and the main KH team was working on Versus, then plans fell through so the Osaka team had to be geared up to do the next mainline title.I'll be cool with it if it's one spinoff of good quality like CoM was between 1 and 2. Hopefully they've learned their lesson, if we get 4-5 more games between KH3 and 4 I will rage probably along with everyone else here lol.
I don't even think it's entirely a naming/presentation thing. I think it's convoluted right down to the design decision of how games are structured and what content a given game covers. Even if we were to take the "Star Wars Episodes" and "Star Wars Stories" example, it wouldn't solve the problem that KH wants to tell the story in really stupid ways. Let's just take the earliest example: Chain of Memories. There's no need to argue if it's a mainline or spinoff game or whatever it's classified as.While I get the sentiment, the problem is with how these games are named, and that's how this is bullshit. They need to give things that are clear, important, vital parts of the main narrative names that indicate as much. There's a reason there are 'Star Wars' movies with episode numbers and then 'Star Wars Stories' without; it makes it absolutely clear which is which. When people talk about KH being convoluted, I agree, but it isn't just because of how the narrative is told: it's because of how it's presented, where without googling which games are actually important to the core narrative and the order they come in isn't clear at all.
I'd be really interested in a KH spin-off that's directly disconnected from everything else, perhaps even letting you play a Disney character or something. I totally get what people are saying around main story, though, when they say 'no more stopgaps', because the whole thing is just frustrating.
Kingdom Hearts doesn't do spin offs. And the next one is probably going to be a prequel to explain things in the lead up to KH4
Visually its not a full scale improvement over the handheld versions. I think if KHuX was 3D and looked similar to the World Ends With You Remix people would be happy with it on Switch despite the major hardware improvements. & If it was a new title I don't think it has to look as good as KH3 to be well recieved just based on what I've seen from bigger franchises coming on Switch.
Oh my bad, How could I miss that the reasonably named "Kingdom Hearts II.8" contained new content which wasn't in "Kingdom Hearts I.5+II.5"All the games have been on PS4 for years now so yeah, it kinda is.
Visually its not a full scale improvement over the handheld versions. I think if KHuX was 3D and looked similar to the World Ends With You Remix people would be happy with it on Switch despite the major hardware improvements. & If it was a new title I don't think it has to look as good as KH3 to be well recieved just based on what I've seen from bigger franchises coming on Switch.
Pokemon reveal was greatUhhhh ... Switch players will take whatever they get. Did you see the Pokemon reveal?
KHuX Remastered that looks like Chain of Memories RE and it'll be well recieved.
to clear trolling? not really
Oh my bad, How could I miss that the reasonably named "Kingdom Hearts II.8" contained new content which wasn't in "Kingdom Hearts I.5+II.5"
Honestly it's not even worth playing 8 games of content to play KH3 anyway, because the story doesn't really deserve it! That's the silly part! People are acting like oh well you didn't play 300 hours of game, some of which is pretty bad, to understand the 6 hours of story in this game that are not just clip episodes of popular disney movies with goofy saying "Gawrsh" in the background.
It's not a well written game
As others have said, people who have played the games are informed enough to critique the story. Those that haven't but do anyway are just trolling.Oh my bad, How could I miss that the reasonably named "Kingdom Hearts II.8" contained new content which wasn't in "Kingdom Hearts I.5+II.5"
Honestly it's not even worth playing 8 games of content to play KH3 anyway, because the story doesn't really deserve it! That's the silly part! People are acting like oh well you didn't play 300 hours of game, some of which is pretty bad, to understand the 6 hours of story in this game that are not just clip episodes of popular disney movies with goofy saying "Gawrsh" in the background.
It's not a well written game
I mean a quick wikipedia search or asking the KH thread will tell you everything that you needed to know about what games you needed to play.
They're good games in of themselves but don't complain that you don't understand the story if you're explicitly skipping games. Go play those games/watch the cutscenes and then more people can take your criticism seriously.
I mean third party support on Switch is in dire straits, I stand by what I said. New consoles are coming in soon, at a time when Switch doesn't even get modest ports on time. How is any Switch owner going to seriously hold SquareEnix to the fire?to clear trolling? not really
you didn't expect an actual discussion when you said "switch players will take whatever they get ", did you?
I mean a quick wikipedia search or asking the KH thread will tell you everything that you needed to know about what games you needed to play.
They're good games in of themselves but don't complain that you don't understand the story if you're explicitly skipping games. Go play those games/watch the cutscenes and then more people can take your criticism seriously.
As others have said, people who have played the games are informed enough to critique the story. Those that haven't but do anyway are just trolling.
Speaking as someone who loves the series...I can't in good conscience say they are all good games. Many of them are a chore to play through, and especially the early spin-offs suffer from making people replay KH1's worlds again and again and again to the point of mind numbing boredom. Chain of Memories(a game I adore) suffers a lot from having most of its gametime be more or less filler. You go through the same disney worlds as KH1, with the same plot(or less) and they're basically just...window dressing between scenes with the actual plot.
Then we get to Re:Coded and like...man, again we're going through KH1. It's kind of a chore to get through it.
358/2 barely has any worlds and generally not a lot of story in them, just busy work(with not particularly great gameplay) until we get legit good plot in between them. Like the 358/2 movie is honestly a pretty good way of experiencing that story and I super recommend it to people over the actual game.
It gets a lot better once we get to BbS and DDD because even if you dislike the games, they don't rehash content from earlier games so at the very least they don't induce the same "been there" feeling that earlier side games did. We have original plots, original disney worlds, and they are decently paced. But I can't with a straight face tell someone "Yeah you won't be bored out of your mind going through the same Disney Worlds like three or four times, with little to no difference in them, as busywork while you get to the actual plot." The early spin-offs were very tiresome in that regard, in my opinion.
They aren't good movies either though.I wasn't including Re: Coded or 358 Days as games because they're movies in the collections which is what I was talking about (the games in the collection).