Of course not. You get idiots like this all over the world. Here in the Netherlands cops had to go to the hospital as well when they were trying to break up a party of about 100 people.
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French police attacked while trying to stop New Year’s Eve rave attended by at least 2500 people
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Of course not. You get idiots like this all over the world. Here in the Netherlands cops had to go to the hospital as well when they were trying to break up a party of about 100 people.
More like decades, even if it gain more visibility this last couple of years. But like Shugga said, it's not really the good topic to bring the subject.
About the subject at hand: this is the prefect responsible for the zone were this rave party took place, speaking about how irresponsible those people were 🤦♂️
I think most of the ones trying to make it sound like that are from the US and just want to sound cool. And there is this idealized view of the situation elsewhere.
The rest of the world knows how fucked up the situation really is because we have to deal with those idiots.
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If I remember correctly you are not French or even an European.
Post is rightfully being dogpiled. Think before you post.
so stupid.
Raving is so much part of their lifestyle that they have to put people's lives in danger...
Raving is so much part of their lifestyle that they have to put people's lives in danger...
More like decades, even if it gain more visibility this last couple of years. But like Shugga said, it's not really the good topic to bring the subject.
About the subject at hand: this is the prefect responsible for the zone were this rave party took place, speaking about how irresponsible those people were 🤦♂️
2021 and people still don't know how to wear a fucking mask.
I would assume only (misinformed) US citizens would believe covidiocy is exclusive to the US; people in literally every other country only have to look out the window to realize otherwise.
An example from my own city:
Thousands Protest In Madrid Against Use Of Face Masks - Sanitas Health Plan Spain
Thousands of Spanish citizens took to the streets of Madrid over the weekend in protest at the obligatory use of face masks and other restrictions imposed by the Spanish government to contain the coronavirus pandemic.
More like decades, even if it gain more visibility this last couple of years. But like Shugga said, it's not really the good topic to bring the subject.
About the subject at hand: this is the prefect responsible for the zone were this rave party took place, speaking about how irresponsible those people were 🤦♂️
I don't know who this or what that's saying but why is he wearing a mask if he isn't going to cover his nose?
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Yeah no, please don't compare your racist bigot US cops to other countries police forces. Believe it or not, we do actually need them, to stop stupid shit like a dumb rave party in a fuckin pandemic.
You might be confused. ACAB doesn't stand for American Cops Are Bad, it's All Cops, and all means all. Hell, the origin of ACAB is from the UK.
If you think the problem is with Americans and not the fundamental concept of policing you should really do some more research.
No matter where it's from, it's idiotic. Police are necessary for shit like this and many other things and they often put their lives on the line to help people like us. Some officers, especially in the US are not worthy of their position of authority but the concept of policing is not the issue. Or do you think if we take them away we everyone will just learn to behave?
ACAB is a ridiculous generalisation. As are most black and white generalisations.
I am genuinely curious what your solution to this is? I am all for defunding the police, wiping the slate clean, a do over (US)
But are you saying they should get rid of Belgian, French, German, UK police? And every single one of those officers are 'bad'?
You need to do some research if those are even remotely comparable to the police force in the US, here in Belgium an officer shot someone in the leg and it was front page news.
-https://www.brusselstimes.com/opinion/106285/state-brutality-against-moroccan-youth-in-brussels-and-the-urgency-for-police-accountability/
Yes, reform is needed and fire the bad cops.
It appears cars are the weapon of choice.
Defunding works for america because they have bloated budgets. In your parts, it would be training officers to stop running over Moroccans and getting rid of the ones that keep hitting them in the training simulator thinking its extra XP.
So you want a spotless record with zero incidents? And you know what, sure, reform could take place, i am not even arguing that, even though I wonder if you have the slightest idea of our situations in Antwerpen, Brussel and Anderlecht.
I am talking about the nonsense of getting rid of police forces entirely.
Just a google illustrated theres likely some sensitivity/reform needed in your police force. Ideally yes a police force should have a spotless record that doesn't include running over a certain demographic with their cars. The goal should be perfection considering they have the power to kill you. Yes, reform should take place worldwide. America has a tough relationship with police because they were installed to catch runaway slaves. Not exactly to be law enforcement. We've got a prison population larger than some countries. There is a lot wrong with American police.
Im sure people who experienced police brutality in france wouldn't mind reform either and some defunding. Which doesn't mean totally abolish imo, but a reduction that keeps the peace realistically and strives for protection of the public. Which is what these officers in OP were doing. Pandemic considered and all.
Not sure the popular argument is to remove police and let us live in a Mad Max society.
The institution of policing hasn't been corrupted by "bad apples", the problems of policing exist at the fundamental nature of police. Police as an institution are just a wing of state violence intended to uphold the primacy of the capital class. Anyone who furthers those aims is bad, yes.
It doesn't make the people who further the police as an institution irredeemably bad, but step 1 to redemption from being part of the police is to stop doing the job of police. If you can swing this by fucking off and continuing to get paid by the police, great, keep the job, take their resources and don't do shit, but for most areas this is going to involve finding a different job. (And I should say, I definitely mean step 1 as there are further steps necessary if you've actually been doing the job.)
You talk about police defunding, which I am for, but I am for police defunding as a step towards abolition, that we take the tremendous resources being wasted on police (read: all resources spent on police) and use those resources on improving housing, mental health, and the various societal improvements that lead us towards dismantling the societal inequality that capitalism requires to function. Cops are the enforcers for capitalism, so I'm definitely in favor of defunding them, to reduce their size and shape as to make it easier to rid ourselves of them entirely. You know that Grover Norquist line about wanting "government so small it can be drowned in a bathtub"? That for cops.
I am and I can tell you that if it was brown people in banlieues doing the partying there would have been less tolerance.
Many police have been used in that capacity, to be sure, but capitalist economies are not the only ones who have police services. They're fundamental to enforcing laws and rules.
As in this particular example, when a bunch of dumbasses decided to violate public health laws and violently resisted attempts to enforce those laws.
Fuck these people for being so idiotic, and also fuck them for attacking the police.
And fuck them again for being so idiotic.
And fuck them again for being so idiotic.
Same thing happened here in Spain: rave en Barcelona: Detenidos los tres organizadores de la macrofiesta ilegal de Llinars: se exponen a una multa de hasta 600.000 euros | Público (publico.es)
So what's your take here, then? Not send in the police, let the ravers rave, get infected, spread the virus?
So what's your take here, then? Not send in the police, let the ravers rave, get infected, spread the virus?
I think mostly people from the US posts such. Those posters self-pity is enormous and it seems folks think overseas is walhalla.
On topic. Fuck those people and fuck people who support them in this topic. Im strongly in favour of NOT locking up people so easely because its better to teach people then to punish. But fuck these people. Lock them up for a month and test them mandatory.
As it's been pointed out multiple times, what stupid post.
Gee, I wonder what's worse, the assholes partying during a pandemic involving a highly transmittable virus, or the ones trying to stop it?
The edgy shit doesn't apply to this situation.
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France's giant curfew-busting party is over after two nights
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France's giant curfew-busting party is over after two nights
PARIS (AP) — A French prosecutor said police detained seven people Saturday, including two alleged organizers, after a New Year's Eve rave party drew at least 2,500 people in western France despite a coronavirus curfew and other restrictions.
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French authorities charge man suspected of organising new year rave
www.theguardian.com
French authorities charge man suspected of organising new year rave
Prosecutor say 22-year-old not alone in organising event that shocked a country in lockdown
www.theguardian.com
The guy that got hit, was driving way too fast; appeared from behind a car - whose driver was there to actually tell the truth - and drove into the police car that had no clue where the guy was. Someone speeding drove himself to death on a machine that was illegally upped to go faster, that is not police violence. It is not even suicide by cop.