Who the fuck is saying this is only an islam issue?
That its an issue for other religions doesnt mean it isnt an issue for islam.
Fuck, what else does the burqa say other than i am the property of men. Only my owners are allowed to see my body.
Elucidate me.
Who the fuck is saying this is only an islam issue?
That its an issue for other religions doesnt mean it isnt an issue for islam.
Fuck, what else does the burqa say other than i am the property of men. Only my owners are allowed to see my body.
Elucidate me.
Agreed. It's really the "women's freedom to choose what to wear in accordance to their religion."My point is that saying "it's their free choice" and thinking that choice is made entirely of their own conviction independently from their environment is incredibly naive. It's a cop out argument and I stand by that.
This was a dumb fucking response, you don't know shit about Islam you dim witted chauvinist.
While this may be true, France hasn't been doing these restrictions for gender equality. They're being clothing nazis.Anglosphere liberals can get weird when they defend conservative religions just because they feel the need to defend all minorities, including religious minorities who happen to be ultra-conservative religions.
there is where I a disagree with my own party (Liberal Party of Canada).
those religions hold anti-liberal views and are misogynistic.
Gender Equality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservative religions.
Go crawl back under the rock you slithered out from you misogynistic enabler.
Herein lies the problem. Of course they would be okay to wear it since that is what they been taught since they were young. Hell, it took me some time to deprogram myself from my mother's religious teachings.I agree that they're bad if women are forced to wear them. But if they voluntarily wear them, there's nothing I can say.
What a dumb cartoon. The burqa is a product of a society that treats women like property, ignores their basic human rights, stones them to death when they dare step out of line, or refuse to be controlled.
That branwashing comes along with the rest is every religion's modus operandi.
Anglosphere liberals can get weird when they defend conservative religions just because they feel the need to defend all minorities, including religious minorities who happen to be ultra-conservative religions.
there is where I a disagree with my own party (Liberal Party of Canada).
those religions hold anti-liberal views and are misogynistic.
Gender Equality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservative religions.
This was a perfect response to that response lol
I think it's a deeply personal choice. I don't agree with it. I don't agree with Christian denominations that don't allow women to wear pants or jeans. Some churches don't even allow women to wear make up. I think God or Allah knows your heart/your spirit, not your outward appearance... but maybe I'm wrong in that regard.Herein lies the problem. Of course they would be okay to wear it since that is what they been taught since they were young. Hell, it took me some time to deprogram myself from my mother's religious teachings.
Women come out in defiance of an anti-religion law and people still claim they're being oppressed by their religion instead of the state.
Calling themselves the "Muslim Rosa Parks" of France, a group of defiant women plan to wear burkinis at a Grenoble pool – but hundreds of counter-protesters vow to show up in their birthday suits, according to reports.
The city requires women to wear one-piece swimming costumes in pools, while men must wear Speedo-style trunks, not shorts, for hygiene and security reasons.
But in France, which bans burkas because of its laws on secularism, many municipalities also ban burkinis. The full-body suits are designed to allow Muslim women to swim in public while adhering to strict Islamic rules about modesty.
More freedom by more restrictions. Ass backwards.The whole guidelines are dumb from top to bottom. Must wear a one piece as a woman, speedos mandatory. Just defies logic. If someone wants to wear a burkini or basketball shorts and a T-shirt, who cares.
legally required speedos confirm every prejudice i've had when it comes to the french.
People are getting into the pool with shitey, unwashed arseholes and cheesy bellends.
Shorts aren't a problem.
People are getting into the pool with shitey, unwashed arseholes and cheesy bellends.
Shorts aren't a problem.
This was a dumb fucking response, you don't know shit about Islam you dim witted chauvinist.
Go crawl back under the rock you slithered out from you misogynistic enabler.
People are getting into the pool with shitey, unwashed arseholes and cheesy bellends.
Shorts aren't a problem.
While I have no doubt that the opposition towards burqas and burkinis very often is motivated by xenophobia, I do find it quite strange when self-proclaimed progressives defend these garments. They are symbols of misogyny and oppression. Why does misogyny get a pass when it's motivated by religion?
With that said, I don't see the french way working and I do not defend it. Feels like it's fueled by racism rather than genuine concern for muslim women's rights.
They weren't talking about burkinis; the hygiene of Speedo's and trunks were being discussed.You realize Burkinis are swimsuits right? Made from the same material as other bathing suits.
Telling women what they are not allowed to wear is no less misogynist than telling them what they are only allowed to wear.
Why does it feel like France is just r/atheism in country form? Chill the fuck out and stop harassing brown women.
This is why I don't swim in pools. I don't swim at the beach because of sharks.People are getting into the pool with shitey, unwashed arseholes and cheesy bellends.
Shorts aren't a problem.
This is why I don't swim in pools. I don't swim at the beach because of sharks.
While I have no doubt that the opposition towards burqas and burkinis very often is motivated by xenophobia, I do find it quite strange when self-proclaimed progressives defend these garments. They are symbols of misogyny and oppression. Why does misogyny get a pass when it's motivated by religion?
ImI don't even think I could wear a speedo to the beach. Like, I still get random erections enough times a day. I don't know how those guys do it.