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Francis Ford Coppola backs Scorsese in row over Marvel films
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In at least one alternate dimension, Johnny Depp plays Tony Stark.
Damn lmao, you're right tho
Also that quote in the article just gets to me.
"When Martin Scorsese says that the Marvel pictures are not cinema, he's right because we expect to learn something from cinema, we expect to gain something, some enlightenment, some knowledge, some inspiration. "
Like come on, not everyone is going to the goddamn movie theater to be "enlightened". Sometimes I just wanna see a dude in tights kick an alien's ass or whatever.
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Is it possible to assert that older people tend not to understand things which are popular with younger generations without being ageist? Because it's not like that's not a real thing.
The Marvel movies may be more disposable than the original blockbuster greats (Jaws, Star Wars, etc.) but they do bring something new: continuity and the sense of an enormous shared creative space. And that's laudable.
The Marvel movies may be more disposable than the original blockbuster greats (Jaws, Star Wars, etc.) but they do bring something new: continuity and the sense of an enormous shared creative space. And that's laudable.
Just in case it needs to be said. Im not batting for Marvel movies or some shit. Don't know where I was defending Marvel/Disney execs either. Im calling out these dumb asses for some dumb ass comments.
For me, the MCU is the McDonalds of cinema, its not the most fulfilling meal, may give you the shits, and it certainly should not be your entire diet but for what they are they mostly get the job done and they have excellent use of branding.
He produced Jeepers Creepers, which I loved, but the only thing you could argue there is to be gained from it out of the three things he listed—enlightenment, knowledge or inspiration—is inspiration, and why is Jeepers Creepers more inspiring than, say, Spider-Man 2?
The Conversation is better then any Marvel movie ever made or that will ever be made, so he can say whatever he wants.
Fiege will continue to thirst for that kind of quality.
Fiege will continue to thirst for that kind of quality.
These "old people" made the best movies ever. I think you mean young people have extremely poor taste because they watch anything and call it good, knowing absolutely nothing about filmmaking but worshipping it as long as it makes them laugh.
Dude does not need to. He has perfected a formula for consistent 6/10s that make money.
Why would he and Marvel Studios try harder? What they have works.
I would say the MCU is more like Wendy's, it's much tastier than McDonald's.
Oh god he produced Jeepers Creepers? I did not know that. Wonder how much he knew about the director being a pedophile because I hope its 0%.
They just aren't good anymore. He made The Conversation, One From the Heart... and Twixt. Twixt.
Yes, god forbid two of the greatest cinematic artists stand up to the disgusting embodiment of capitalistic commodification of the arts that is the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
"I don't know that anyone gets anything out of seeing the same movie over and over again," the 80-year-old filmmaker said.
Feels like an ERA post lol
Feels like an ERA post lol
They should be ignored because they're fucking detached from reality. Trying to play semantics games with stuff like "not cinema" is never going to work, because people won't read the specialised meaning of the word, instead, they'll read it with the common meaning. (But elitist bullshit like cinema vs film is still dumb).
Hey, you watch your mouth. Coppola enlightened us all with the knowledge that Keanu Reeves is really bad at English accents.
I see a completely valid point in Scorsese saying Marvel films are basically theme park attractions and that cinema should not go into that direction. And I say that as someone who has always liked the MCU films and cried multiple times during Endgame due to how invested I was in it. The overall market gravitates toward the Marvel "theme park attraction" style which has not much to do with what most would define as classic cinema.
Now we just need George to come out and say "I'll do you one better: They're the shits! Marvel movies are the absolute shits!"
How not liking something is being "detached from reality"? It's his taste.
Martin Scorsese spends a shit-ton of his free time seeking out and financing distribution for lesser-known films from around the world. He knows contemporary cinema just fine. And Coppola is a shell of his former self, but you don't have to be a currently great artist to recognize that chaining together ludicrously wasteful, forgettable detritus with a gimmick of diegetic continuity to string consumers along is not a triumph of artistry, but of marketing.
The only flaw is that these dudes don't see that their boys Lucas and Spielberg were the granddaddies of this, but hey, I'll take what I can get.
I am pretty sure he'd have a similar response to this if asked about the MCU and people here would lose their shit
It'd be great.
I dunno who these dudes are trying to convince here. I'm with the directors of some Marvel films on this that they're entitled to their opinions, but it's not like Kevin Feige is gonna start crying himself to sleep while he's smoking a fat cigar made of $100 bills.
If I said that I saw no difference between Godfather, Goodfellas, and Casino, people would look at me like an asshole, and they'd be right.
Just saying.
Just saying.
That has nothing to do with my post, which was about him misunderstanding why people go to see movies at the cinema and why playing academic word games never works.
