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SilentPanda

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The French government has launched a "massive and unprecedented" wave of measures to combat what it calls religious "extremism", Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin has said, adding that 76 mosques are suspected of "separatism".

Darmanin on Thursday tweeted his interview with RTL radio, writing: "In the coming days, checks will be carried out on these places of worship. If ever these doubts are confirmed, I will ask for their closure."

He also said 66 undocumented migrants suspected of "radicalisation" had been deported.

President Emmanuel Macron's government has responded to several deadly attacks in recent weeks with a promise to crack down on what Darmanin has said is "the enemy within".

France is home to the largest Muslim minority population in Europe, and some fear being collectively punished after a series of attacks in recent months.

France has also closed two organisations – the Muslim charity BarakaCity and a civil rights group which monitors hate crimes – the Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF); both have refuted the government's accusations that they harboured "radical" links.

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France: 76 mosques face closure, 66 migrants deported

As part of gov’t crackdown on ‘separatism’, mosques to be inspected as dozens suspected of ‘radicalisation’ deported.
 

mael

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Are they going to close St Eloi too as well or it's just brown people bad?
 

Viewt

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I know that cruelty is the point, but this is such a massive blunder. You don't mitigate radicalization by increasing the kinds of oppression that radicalizes people. This is a lose-lose situation.
 

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Well I'm sure this won't cause radicalization. Imagine how this would look if churches was replaced in the title.
 
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France is waging an all-out war on their Muslim migrants. This is the result of the decades-long escalating tensions. It was bound to bubble over at some point.
 

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Liberté, égalité, fraternité!*


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Skade

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Closing the mosques is stupid. People will just go back to make the "clandestines" mosques in basements as they were doing before and any possible radicalisation will be even more difficult to notice and to track.

And as general rule of thumb, because humans are humans, the more you push them back in a corner, the more angry they get. There's no chance in hell that it will do ANYTHING of what they want to do. Apart from looking more evil that is. That, they'll succeed.
 

Aran

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Fuck France, racist fucks. I thought macrons party was supposed to be moderate but this coupled with the other stuff that's come out in the party cements them as far right in my mind.
 

Tfritz

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perhaps the rest of the french people can have one of their now-famous mass workers protests in support of their muslim brothers and sisters
 
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Remember all the threads about France where people tried gaslighting people into thinking it isn't a horribly Islamophobic nation by spouting that egalite and laicite horseshit?
 

effingvic

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People will finally see the French government for who they really are. We've been saying this shit for years.
 

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Fuck France, racist fucks. I thought macrons party was supposed to be moderate but this coupled with the other stuff that's come out in the party cements them as far right in my mind.
This is what being a "moderate" leads to. We'll do the oppression the right wants, just a bit less of it.
 

Singher

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How has humanity learned that this is never the answer. We just keep repeating the same shit over and over.
 

Kcannon

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This is a moderate party implementing moderate policies.

This is not wrong.

People forget what "moderate" means. This is not too different from what "moderate" America did a few years ago regarding terrorism, with its invasive crackdowns on muslim populations.

Or maybe the term just decayed because the extreme spectrum went fucking bonkers lately, so everybody thinks "moderate" is something more far from the center. A leftist probably thinks "moderate" means "center-left policies", and not something more to the right of center-left.
 
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This is not wrong.

People forget what "moderate" means. This is not too different from what moderate America did a few years ago regarding terrorism.

Scratch a liberal and all that

A leftist probably thinks "moderate" means "center-left policies", and not something more to the right.

Nah I don't think the left wing is under any illusions about who moderates are gonna side with when push comes to shove
 

elyetis

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I didn't take the time to check BarakaCity, but from what I've seen the CCIF didn't seem to deserve that in any way shape of form.
 

Narpas Sword0

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This is not wrong.

People forget what "moderate" means. This is not too different from what "moderate" America did a few years ago regarding terrorism, with its invasive crackdowns on muslim populations.

Or maybe the term just decayed because the extreme spectrum went fucking bonkers lately, so everybody thinks "moderate" is something more far from the center. A leftist probably thinks "moderate" means "center-left policies", and not something more to the right of center-left.

its not the left forgetting what moderates are my dude. The left knows exactly what the fuck moderates are
 

Keuja

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People acting like France is closing mosque randomly. I guess propaganda is working.

France is waging an all-out war on their Muslim migrants. This is the result of the decades-long escalating tensions. It was bound to bubble over at some point.
Lol i think you have no clue on what you're talking about. As i said propaganda is working.
 
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You'd think there would be constitutional protections against this kind of treatment there, but I guess not

Macron what are you doing
 

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The french are extremely effective at repressing minorities, look up what happened to occitan

Vergonha - Wikipedia

Thanks for the bit of history.

France is waging an all-out war on their Muslim migrants. This is the result of the decades-long escalating tensions. It was bound to bubble over at some point.
I agree with what you say, as I understand where it's coming from, but I feel like it may be a bit much by calling it all-out war at this point.

I'm not sure how informed you are about the situation that France is in and the immigration and terrorism situation, but it's multiple layers and none of it is pretty and none of it is simple.

That said, it's time for someone other than Macron to step in. I had high hopes for Macron when he first stepped into the office, but it seems that with the recent terrorist attacks he's being swayed by the right when making decisions such as this. If they were to step up security and monitor mosques and their activity, okay, not too bad, but outright closure of them at the slightest hint of separatism seems extreme, even a bit authoritative.

Also, Macron's words have done nothing but stir up shit as of recent.
 
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GameAddict411

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So they want to prevent radicalization by oppression. Like I don't get their reasoning at all. Can someone explain this to me? How can someone think this is a good idea.
 

pechorin

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This is how it starts, first it's removing those accused of extremism and anti-French sentiments, you know the bad hombres and then targeting the broader muslim public. Sad to see.
 
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France has also closed two organisations – the Muslim charity BarakaCity and a civil rights group which monitors hate crimes – the Collective Against Islamophobia in France (CCIF); both have refuted the government's accusations that they harboured "radical" links.
What? I don't know about BarakaCity but they closed a legit hate-crime monitoring group with CCIF.