As your neighbor, I really hope that Bernie wins. He's the one with the soundest ideas and the guts to deliver them.
please god yes
Man, I'd take anyone over Biden but I feel like he's gonna get it in the end.
That said I think he'll definitely beat Trump.
My "feeling" is very simply that Biden is Clinton 2.0. Also I do not believe that "Biden has no chance against Trump". I believe that Biden has less of a chance against Trump than you know, an actually good candidate that people will vote for like Sanders.It's based on a reinforced echo chamber.
But yeah, the "Biden has no chance against Trump" crowd is a headscratching one divorced from reality.
My "feeling" is very simply that Biden is Clinton 2.0. Also I do not believe that "Biden has no chance against Trump". I believe that Biden has less of a chance against Trump than you know, an actually good candidate that people will vote for like Sanders.
He wasn't as known at that point. People didn't care as much at that point because we hadn't actually had Trump as our president.Why didn't people vote for him against Clinton, then? Why don't more people support him than support Biden now? You can disagree with those people's choices but you can't just make them disappear.
He wasn't as known at that point. People didn't care as much at that point because we hadn't actually had Trump as our president.
And I believe that in actual reality, many many more people do support Sanders than Biden. I hope that reflects when it's time to vote.
He wasn't as known at that point. People didn't care as much at that point because we hadn't actually had Trump as our president.
And I believe that in actual reality, many many more people do support Sanders than Biden. I hope that reflects when it's time to vote.
Time will overcome "double digit" leads though. It will make a difference because Sanders/Warren will (hopefully) gain support and Biden will lose support. This is what's currently happening. The good thing is we're still some months away from the first votes. Things can change drastically by that point. Again though, many of the first Primary states show Sanders in 1st or 2nd place right now."The silent majority" is a myth that fans of the underdog always seem to turn to. It won't overcome double digit leads.
2016 was a primary between Clinton and Sanders. The argument he wasn't well known then makes no sense at all. He was on the news every day for months.
I know you want it to be true that Sanders is secretly the most popular but the media and the democratic committee and whoever else conspires to deny and overcome this but it isn't actually true in reality. More people voted for Clinton, and right now more people want Joe Biden.
Time will overcome "double digit" leads though. It will make a difference because Sanders/Warren will (hopefully) gain support and Biden will lose support. This is what's currently happening. The good thing is we're still some months away from the first votes. Things can change drastically by that point. Again though, many of the first Primary states show Sanders in 1st or 2nd place right now.
And yes if you weren't paying close attention it's easy to think everybody knew Sanders by that point, but I don't agree at all. Going by donations again, it took him 9 months to reach a million donors in 2016, while it took him only 7 months (a record for any candidate) to reach that number this time. Things have changed.
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it isn't that hard guys, just peak at the polling average once every few weeks. stop overfitting to noise.
Yeah I agree there. I bring Warren into it since she is currently rising (or is she "plummeting"?!) and Biden is currently dropping and I'd be happy settling on Warren if that time comes. Either of them are just infinitely better than Biden. Hell I hate Clinton, but at least she was coherent.Donations to all democrats are up with Trump in office.
The second choice for many Sanders and Warren voters isn't Sanders or Warren. You can't treat their bases as completely interchangeable.
🔥 ban single poll threads 🔥
🔥 bring back the all-encompassing primary thread and actually fucking moderate it this time 🔥