It sucks. We shouldn't be forced to choose between a bunch of out-of-touch dinosaurs who won't even be here ten years from now.
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Four out of five of the likely presidents in 2021 are 70+ years old. Is that okay?
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oh ok cool. Yeah same here, I prefer Bernie to win...but will immediately vote for Warren if she is nominated, and will finally be excited again.
did you change your AV pic?
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Nope, you might be confusing me someone else actually haha
I love bernie too, but warren seems like a morepragmatic version of him
It's a problem. They don't understand this generation and Democrats generally only win when we run someone young:
Kennedy (41)
LBJ (56, and a fluke)
Carter (52)
Clinton (46)
Obama (44)
Our current president is senile, Biden is getting there if he isn't already, and Bernie just had a heart attack and is essentially unable to pivot from his stump speech.
Kennedy (41)
LBJ (56, and a fluke)
Carter (52)
Clinton (46)
Obama (44)
Our current president is senile, Biden is getting there if he isn't already, and Bernie just had a heart attack and is essentially unable to pivot from his stump speech.
Being sharp is not all that is a concern when it's about health. We're not discussing who's going to be on the local school board, this is about who's going to be given the most stressful job on the planet. It's not meant to be about playing golf and watching Fox News for hours, like Trump does.
I suppose that's why we should be thankful that we can latch onto a single driving force! I'll happily support younger progressive candidates, as well, but Castro was never really relevant in the first place and he was basically it. Maybe next election will be kinder?
Yeah it's pretty bad. I don't want someone making decisions for the country who won't live to see the longer-term ramifications of those decisions.
Can't say I care too much about that particular angle when Bernie is the only candidate bringing something new and fresh to the table at 79, while Pete basically just rehashes the same old shit at 37.
I feel like bernie is somewhat the exception. He has been trying to make those decisions most of his adult life. His policies havent really changed much. Just he never got the chance to implement them as president.
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Without him we wouldn't have "The Squad" and I wish he would've become more nationally involved years ago. Maybe he'd have an over 35 year old protege by now that could've run in his stead. Guess we still gotta wait 8 years for AOC to run.
Which is why I said I'd prefer someone younger. Their age doesn't change the fact that I like their progressive ideas.
the only good lefty candidates being old isn't some wacky coincidence, bernie is from the last generation where socialism was mainstream before the red scare and reaganomics ruined decades of american politics. now we're seeing a resurgence of those ideas with people like AOC but as for lefty people with enough experience to stage a presidential run it shouldn't be surprising that we are finding candidates from the older generation
That was his choice, he wanted to stay an obscure figure in congress until recently.
That's not an excuse. Bernie had plenty of time to build a generation of socialist politicians under his wing, but he's not the kind of guy who does that. It's why he has no political proteges. The JD's were inspired by him, but not lead by him and why he didn't join them or Our Revolution when they were founded.
In Bernie's case I really don't want someone in office who could very realistically die during their term. I like his politics but I'm far more comfortable with people around Obama's age.
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Millennials are very much in line with the Bernie wing of politics, as long as trump loses 2020 and does t completely destroy the country, then I have hope we can fix this nation. If trump gets re-elected, which in all honesty I'm thinking won't happen, we are fucked and I would start looking to relocate.
I dont like the idea of it either. As much as i like him, hes old as fuck.
If he picks a good VP that shares his ideals, i dont see why i wouldnt vote for him. Im not a fan of the other picks. Every week another one says/does some shit to fuck up the hype for them. Bernie atleast has been consistent.
I'd like to be optimistic too but the playing field now is almost hopelessly rigged compared to, say, the FDR era. the senate is hopelessly imbalanced, the electoral college keeps stealing elections in favor of the GOP, gerrymandering, voter suppression, etc. it's why electoral reform needs to be a central issue for any democratic candidate going forward
It's not the best, I personally hate it because for better or worse they won't be around to see the ramifications of their policies.
On the subject of age, it's funny how 16 & 17 year olds can't vote because they're too young, but the country sees nothing wrong with taxing them if they work.
On the subject of age, it's funny how 16 & 17 year olds can't vote because they're too young, but the country sees nothing wrong with taxing them if they work.
Buttigeig is not going to win the Democratic nomination without black and latino support. So, the next president is going to be over seventy. It sucks but as long as it isn't Trump I will be happy.
I'd prefer a young person but as long as it isn't Trump and the VP isn't some shithead like Tulsi i'll sleep well.
Put a maximum age on it. No one over 70 should be in office.
And drop the minimum age to at least 30.
I'd vote for AOC in a heartbeat if I could.
And drop the minimum age to at least 30.
I'd vote for AOC in a heartbeat if I could.
Depends completely on the person. Trump and Biden are both different levels of delusional that clearly have issues relating to their age.
Bernie is really old and some of his physical health scares are worrying but mentally he still seems sharp as ever and he can still campaign like crazy so I'm not that worried.
Warren does not scare me at all, she's faster on the draw than most people and still incredibly eloquent, intelligent etc. and has had no physical issues as far as I'm aware
Bernie is really old and some of his physical health scares are worrying but mentally he still seems sharp as ever and he can still campaign like crazy so I'm not that worried.
Warren does not scare me at all, she's faster on the draw than most people and still incredibly eloquent, intelligent etc. and has had no physical issues as far as I'm aware
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I like Yang. But he should've run for senate or congress.
Running for President with ZERO (0) elected office experience is unacceptable and a total ego move.
Yep, also why he'll never be the nominee. I'm sure part of him knows that though and it's an attention grab.
Got some real mixed feelings on this one. Presidents can be elected based on experience. In which case, older heads will usually be given greater leverage. I don't want to discount a candidates abilities simply because of their age.
But that same experience and age can make a corrupt and abusive system almost too familiar and acceptable for those with political power within that system.
But that same experience and age can make a corrupt and abusive system almost too familiar and acceptable for those with political power within that system.
It's not ageism. It's an incredibly physically demanding job and some candidates are already right at average life expectancy. It's not crazy to believe they might die or have some sort of severely debilitating condition pop up. That being said it's only one of many factors to consider when choosing who to vote for.
It's a travesty.
It's time to let the generations that are still active in the workforce to take over. The average age of Boomers is retired and has been retired for years.
It's time to let the generations that are still active in the workforce to take over. The average age of Boomers is retired and has been retired for years.
The rule that America has that presidents have to be 35 or older is ridiculous and extremely undemocratic. The fact that someone like AOC has to wait while America might end up choosing between two sun-downing, senile cunts like Biden and Trump is just a joke.
I am done voting for older people. If your horizon in life is only 10-15 years, fuck that. I want someone that's going to be in this, drowning in flood waters alongside us in 30-40 years. They need some fucking skin in this game beyond their ego!
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But maybe the you g ones ain't shit cause the older ones are in the way. Beto, Castro, Booker and Harris are all perfectly eligible folk and in a perfect world the race would've been between them 4 and Buttigieg.
I'm saying they ain't shit cause they don't align with my politics and for other reasons. But young ain't shit cause of older politicians for sure, politics in this country is fucked for many reasons.