15 million players in a game that released a little over two months ago is worthy of hype and a reflection of a brand's strength when that many people want to get in the door to play it. Also why does actual copies sold matter?
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Forza Horizon 5 hits 15 million Players
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Well we don't know, but what we do know is that close to 2m people were playing it before release with the premium version which costs anywhere from £40-80 depending setup.
It's doing numbers on Steam and it was still selling well boxed on the UK numbers too.
Revenue (which is king) is not an issue with this title.
Edit: also 8m would be fantastic. Again, individual 'copies' aren't important as the revenue will be through the roof.
How many copies it sold doesn't mean as much as you think it does.
So does player count.You can sell 1M copies but have 10M players,its not important as actual sales are..
If sales were that important, it wouldn't be launching on Gamepass.
Sales numbers are largely irrelevant as a measure of success when the game releases onto Game Pass, aside from whatever internal projections Microsoft have. They ideally don't want people to buy the game - they want them to sign up for Game Pass to access it. There's no way to really quantify that in the numbers aside from measuring "players".
I'm not sure why any of us would get "hyped" about players or sales. These metrics are meaningless from our end. Unless you're a shareholder, you have no reason to be hyped for the material success of billion and trillion dollar corporations.
You don't know the sales or the revenue though or the amount of daily or concurrent players. The only thing we know is 15 million profiles played the game since launch.
This doesnt make any sense,why bring gamepass in topic?
You literally have games in there that didnt even sold 500K.
People keep saying that, but the thing that everyone always references is driving around Tokyo - which is an entirely different ganeplay experience.
Are you genuinely asking why Gamepass is relevant for one of Xbox's biggest exclusive titles that (like all other Xbox Studio Games) launches directly onto Gamepass on Day 1?
Because that's where all of the non purchased players are coming from?
sales numbers are never irrelevant as a measure of success.
if MS only wanted people to sign up for Gamepass to access it, the game would be exclusive to Gamepass.
do you really think someone buying the game for $60 on the MS Store instead of subscribing to GP is disappointing to MS ? Nope, they are delighted to have a means of reaching players with differing values when it comes to access.
the reality is MS want people to sign up for Gamepass to access it AND they want people to buy it.
I don't think someone buying their games is disappointing to them, no. I DO think they would ideally like to convert all of their traditional buying customers into Game Pass subscribers, which is why they've aggressively given away trials and deals to get people onboard. They know some percentage of people wont, and in those cases they obviously still would much rather have your $60 a pop than nothing. Likewise I think they'd much rather people bought games digitally than physically, despite still offering physical games.
And in a world where the publisher of a game is aggressively trying to turn buyers into subscribers, sales alone are an irrelevant metric for a game's success. They're a small part of the larger picture of consumer engagement with the game.
Yeah itll make the offroad classes useless. Which is why it would be better as an expansion imho. Or if they do go to japan it wouldnt be in tokyo(i want tokyo because of the highway racing ing)
Plenty of options. Africa has a lot of interesting countries for a possible race game.
The fact that MS have still not released any new GP numbers after the release of Forza and Halo is interesting.
The quarter just ended and the last time they shared numbers was in January of last year
You would rather be excited about the amount of copies it sold rather than how many people got to try it out?
Imagine that.
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Yeah, I'm excited about one guy creating multiple accounts at the same time.
You've got to take a hard look at your life priorities if you think random people are spending their free time creating new accounts to inflate numbers for a video game.
I know 2022 has only just started, but I reckon this is the most baffling weird opinions I've read this year.
I mean, if you get right down to it there's no real reason for us to care about these numbers at all. Microsoft considers it a success, the game is doing well, that's all that's really relevant for consumers. People wanting to hear things like Game Pass subscriber growth as if they have the information and context to judge if it's doing well or not has always been bizarre. Some things are worth seeking out, and some things are worth just sitting back and being glad exist.
Yeah, Squid Game was watched by 111M+ people but how many bought the blu ray?
Especially with one guy creating multiple accounts at the same time.
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Especially with one guy creating multiple accounts at the same time.
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the larger picture of consumer engagement includes sales and subscriptions.
the optimal profit potential most likely doesn't lie with all consumers being subscribers- because the number of consumers who WANT to subscribe to a service will be much smaller than the overall market and this won't change any time soon.
also the high margins offered by customer who like to buy digitally is too attractive to want to move away from. In fact, the Gamepass model of having a rcurated selection of games on the service temporarily shows that MS' ideal customer subscribes AND buys. MS Including all of their own titles on the service permanently just doesn't mean they don't care about how they sell- it means they are just willing to use their in-house titles to bait users into a subscribe+buy relationship.
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Being hyped about player count (something that can affect your enjoyment of the game specially in mp modes) makes far more sense than being hyped about sales (something that concerns the company and shareholders)
Well I don't know for certain, that's right, I'm not an MS employee. That doesn't invalidate the other stuff I mentioned?
Even if we was to go the typical XGP argument of 'everyone signs up for a dollar' there's 15m dollars there.
If Forza went back to the Season stuff, Japan would be a truly diverse place. From North to South, it would cover all of the most amazing driving options.
How many copies has Fortnite sold?
You can read their pain. It's hurts them that MSFT is having success with their strategy.
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I suggest jumping into a plane in Flight Sim and flying over Japan.
I've explored Japan fairly extensively in Flight Sim. It's pretty.
So incredible. I spent more than 80 hours flying over JP. Awesome stuff!
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I'll do you one better, there was I think 2.4 million players that paid at least 40 dollars for the early access pass that's a minimum of 96 million dollars.
huh?
Lmao....the account is just over a week old.
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Hell yeah, absolutely deserved. Just an incredible game. Already put 120hrs into it. I also got the premium upgrade this week.
The first week or so of FH5 for me involved quite a few stops in at the Hall of Fame to see the burgeoning player count. And of course I'd run a few drag races while I was there.
I'm sure expectations were high at Xbox headquarters for this game…but no doubt they absolutely obliterated them.
I'm sure expectations were high at Xbox headquarters for this game…but no doubt they absolutely obliterated them.
Might be quite a good opportunity to freshen things up though. Not to go 'all city', by any means, but to provide a more comprehensive street racing experience with a much bigger city area. So far the urban areas have always been tiny compared to the environment as a whole, it would be cool to see a balanc emore like GTAV's on that front.
I mean who doesn't create 1,000s of accounts to inflate the numbers for Forza, SoT, and Halo. I think I'm upwards of 170,000 different accounts for each right now; just doing my part, ya know? I spend more time creating new accounts than actually playing the games….
By my count, I see that Forza Horizon 5 has now spent 11 weeks in the top 10 global Steam sales charts. So, yeah, it continues to sell exceptionally well globally.