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Fortnite star Ninja signs apparel deal with Adidas
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Its just like athletes promoting coca cola or something. The World Cup is sponsored by McDonalds after all.
Please never write the sentence "Diego Umehara, the greatest cyber athlete of all time..."
At the start of some piece you write.
I'm begging you man.
I apologize for my initial post. I try not to be this trigger friendly, though it's difficult these days.
I always lol when I see the mental gymnastics around people trying to make esports seem like this great physical strain.
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I mean, I don't blame you. I've said the occasional dumbshit haha. But this is one of those hills that I will die on.
I actually don't even know when I'd use in a piece. I'd have to think on that.
He's extremely lucky, he was streaming something no one wanted to see to relatively few viewers.
He's lucky that fortnite even exists, battle royale is a pivot it wasn't even ment to exist.
Luck doesn't mean he didn't work hard, but he switched to the right game at the right time and needed luck to uo his exposure along with hard work.
If you can't see that I would question your underlying insecurities and view of the world.
If everyone who worked hard did well businesses wouldn't go broke, and cleaners and manual labourers would be rich. Luck is always a factor in everything we do.
For when you finally get off your ass after playing Fortnight and decide to go outside, be sure to wear your Ninja sneakers! On sale now!
You can chalk it up to me being from an older generation, but I don't agree with this at all.
The way you phrase it, someone that sits at a desk at a bank for 9 hours a day for five days a week (talking to customers, setting up loans, reviewing accounts), then takes care of their kids for another 3/4, THEN works out on top of that could also be considered an athlete. Yes? If no- why?
I'm of the understanding that an athlete is defined as someone that trains and competes in a physical activity/sport. Has this really changed since the boom of video game popularity in the last twenty years (hell, 40 years ago kids were standing on their feet for hours at arcades)?
Generally curious to your insistence that someone like Ninja should be considered an 'athlete'.
Y'all bigging this up like once you reach a certain level people don't trip over themselves to give you deals.
Also to be clear, I don't discredit eSports. I look at chess (which is classified as a 'sport' by the IOC) as a respectable parallel of sorts. I was sitting here wondering "is chess considered a 'sport'?" and lo-and-behold, in many circles it is:
"Chess requires physical exertion as mental exertion manifests itself physically. ... Chess is competitive as the participating players feel the drive to win."
So I guess I just made your argument for you, Hobbes. 😂
I still think it can be said that the term 'athlete' is an arguable one when it comes to people playing video games, though.
"Chess requires physical exertion as mental exertion manifests itself physically. ... Chess is competitive as the participating players feel the drive to win."
So I guess I just made your argument for you, Hobbes. 😂
I still think it can be said that the term 'athlete' is an arguable one when it comes to people playing video games, though.
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Traditionally speaking, an athlete is defined as someone who competes in a physical sport. Your analogy doesn't hold because that person isn't competing for anything.
However, we do not live in an age where competing is mainly a physical act. Competitions have broadened to a point where we have people competing in cars, over chess or video games, etc. Sure, they don't require nearly as much physical exertion as football does, but these people are still dedicating their lives to competing, they have sports psychologists, coaches, teammates, leagues they play in. Why do we limit the definition of it athlete to JUST physical, tangible exertion of energy? Why does it not include the mental exertion and training that is required?
Because most people do not understand the sheer energy and dedication it takes to be the best at whatever it is that you want to compete at. Because limiting the definition of athlete to only physical exertion would be to change the status quo, because they don't respect esports.
I appreciate the response. I made a follow-up not long after my first post to you, since my brain was still asking questions, hah.
I don't know how I feel about Ninja specifically, need to know more about his situation, but people like players on professional esports teams are very much atheletes. They practice for tens of hours days in and days out. They put in an insane amount of dedication and they play at a level where the pressure would make literally anyone choke.
When there's 14 million dollars on the line and you're still able to play to the best of your abilities, even when you have a country of more than a billion rooting against you, then that's professional athlete level mentality, imo.
And this isn't even counting all the mental stress of actually playing the game at the highest level for hours on end.
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"Chess requires physical exertion as mental exertion manifests itself physically. ... Chess is competitive as the participating players feel the drive to win."
I think this pretty much sums up my point. There is so much more mental exertion involved with esports that it would feel like gatekeeping to deny them the descriptor of athlete.
Is this about D. Rose's sexual assault allegation or his injury history?
They just released Game of Thrones and Dragonball Z and Nike did some Spongebob shoes. You aren't going to see those shoes in their respective shows. I don't think it's that complicated.
Yep, good luck to him.
I would be taking everything whilst I could too
The way he keeps going up and up is amazing. Good on the guy, as a young guy, I find it pretty inspiring.
As a varsity athlete, I'm fine with esports people being athletes. It feels like we do entirely different things, but I can respect the effort and don't really care enough to say that there's a difference.
Also Adidas is great for sponsorships even for small scale sport sponsorships, they make rad shoes and require the least amount of paperwork for you to fill in afterwards so 10/10 always loved them, even when they misspelled your name on letters lol so good on Ninja, especially since this is a huge deal not a small one haha. Like I mean this one actually lets him get paid for one so I'm jealous :P
Also Adidas is great for sponsorships even for small scale sport sponsorships, they make rad shoes and require the least amount of paperwork for you to fill in afterwards so 10/10 always loved them, even when they misspelled your name on letters lol so good on Ninja, especially since this is a huge deal not a small one haha. Like I mean this one actually lets him get paid for one so I'm jealous :P
Really? I think he is a nice guy and good player, not a big role model but a lot of kids love him,, whats wrong with him?
Likewise, I never understood the term "eSports" , but people are into it so let them have fun
It's jealousy, mostly. He gets paid millions to sit around and play video games, an activity that normal people only do on their own time/resources after work. The other thing is his weird "I don't stream with women" thing which is problematic.
Some of you are killing me with this... maybe not by the "traditional" definition of an athlete? I think you mean the ACTUAL definition. People who work ridiculous hours at their craft doesn't make them an athlete. That's not what an athlete is. And no one is trying to discredit him by saying that he is not one. He is at a professional level in his competition, and that's what it takes to be there. But it doesn't make him an athlete. Some of you have been talking about the hours mental and physical practice and work. There are people who do that level of work in many fields but that doesn't make them athletes. The term athletics is what defines an athlete and it is PHYSICAL sports and games. Video games are not physical. Don't come at me with, oh it's hell on your hands and wrists or talk about mental strain. So is coding or writing and I assure you that those who do it on a professional level as high as ninja put it just as many hours if not more, but they aren't athletes nor do they claim to have a physical profession. No one is trying to discredit him or any other gamers by saying they aren't athletes. Their work (and frankly their bank accounts) speak for themselves.
Having said all that, I really don't know how this guy does it. It's incredible and good for him. As someone who has zero interest in what he does, it blows me away that he can be this successful.
Having said all that, I really don't know how this guy does it. It's incredible and good for him. As someone who has zero interest in what he does, it blows me away that he can be this successful.
Ain't no mental gymnastics involved. This is based on real world cases. You play a game like StarCraft, Dota, Counter Strike at the high levels and it will take a toll on your hands and wrist.
Not that "how much damage it does to your body" is in anyway some sort of measure for what makes something a sport. Fishing is a sport after all.
That dude must have the most extreme case of the "born too soon" meme syndrome going on. lol
Well no, because he'd apparently write "Diego Umehara, the greatest athlete of all time...", because these guys are totally athletes without the need for any qualifier. 🙄
That's a ridiculously reductive take in regards to the hard work and preparation that successful streamers, youtubers, etc do. Their jobs sound miserable quite frankly.