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Uhhh, I don't. Fuck that. I want xCloud on my iPhone X, and if this leads to it then I hope Epic keeps at it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't Microsoft and Sony also taking a 30% cut on V-Bucks purchases? What's the difference here?
they have a case agenst apple, not so much google. google both already allows sideloading, and hardware makers to put their own store on andriod.
Billionaire Tim Sweeney will give you a V-Buck for your fealty.
That's the thing: they're at the point now where they don't have to be good anymore.
Whether you or I like it or not doesn't matter. The key point is Apples Store has rules. You want to circumvent them, you break those rules. If Epic is allowed special rules then everyone does.
No, all Xbox and Playstation Fortnite transactions has to go through the Xbox Store and the PlayStation Store (and pay the respective stores 30%).
Epic has had a sweetheart deal with Sony for a long time, they get special exceptions on all kinds of stuff. I would imagine they probably get special terms on V-Bucks commissions as well
Because the agreement is shitty and hurts customers, so Apple deserves to be pressured to change it. Honestly they brought this on themselves, it's been a long time coming.
not being on the app store means no updates so whenever the next fortnite update hits all platforms, the game won't be playable on iOS
this PR stunt probs won't even last more than 2 days so as long as you have the game installed, it's not an issue
No difference whatsoever.
EDIT: Apparently they have already made a deal with Sony.
Apple's policies are very outdated, but let's not pretend this wouldn't result in even more money for Epic. You're probably going to get more people buying those packs of V-bucks if the price is reduced, even if each individual purchase is still the same revenue for Epic. It's framed for the consumer when it's also very much for Epic.
If Apple reduces the 30% cut on IAP, don't expect the savings to be passed onto the consumers like they did in this publicity stunt.
Also, don't forget that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo take similar cuts on their platforms. If anything actually changes with Apple's policies, it might create an interesting wave across the other platforms.
If Apple reduces the 30% cut on IAP, don't expect the savings to be passed onto the consumers like they did in this publicity stunt.
Also, don't forget that Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo take similar cuts on their platforms. If anything actually changes with Apple's policies, it might create an interesting wave across the other platforms.
Two shitty companies going at it. This was obviously an Epic bait at Apple and they fell right into it. Gotta admire Apple's stubbornness, though.
facts may be facts, but the eu has come down on compines for less abusive practices.
Because Apple's policies are fucking dumb and anything that's done to change it is a good thing even if it's coming from another disingenuous shitty company.
This funny no matter how you look at it but Apple not going to move on this .
Lets see what happens i guess.
Lets see what happens i guess.
Rumor is they agreed to give epic a better cut. Also Epic has way more leverage on consoles than on mobile considering how small the console business is.
It's not about a "conversation", it's about having clear proof they can point to when they go to various governments around the world and tell them to get after Apple. Or when they sue.
Between this and the xCloud/Stadia/GeForce Now debacle and the anti-trust investigation, that's kind of the point. Apple needs to change their App Store policies moving forward.
It's possible Epic has already cut deals with Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo considering the 20 percent discount looks to apply on those platforms.
How do they have control? Its their device and their rules so if they don't like it, go to another company.
So the only question is if Sony or MS would have removed the game over this issue.. i doubt it because it's huge for both consoles to have this game running.
So Epic chose the company to do this on where they knew they would get removed without much care since Apple really doesn't care about gaming as much. So now everybody will talk about it
Wait, this is actually great. A really nice one from Epic, other companies should also keep this kind of pressure on.
but its clear epic is seting up a anti trust fight were apple is going to have to defend why it should mantain control over a divuice it doesnt own.
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On one hand, the 30% cut has been there from day dot. But on the other hand, the world's changed enormously since 2008, cloud services are basically becoming the new external hard drive...
iOS has been my platform of choice since the original iPhone launch, but the policies around stuff like this and the XCloud stuff are absolute bullshit. This might well be a publicity stunt for Epic, but the instant kids can't buy V-Bucks or play cross platform with their mates there will be a shitload of trouble. Not to mention when an update knocks out iOS from the available client pool
iOS has been my platform of choice since the original iPhone launch, but the policies around stuff like this and the XCloud stuff are absolute bullshit. This might well be a publicity stunt for Epic, but the instant kids can't buy V-Bucks or play cross platform with their mates there will be a shitload of trouble. Not to mention when an update knocks out iOS from the available client pool
Without checking, I'll guarantee you it's not.
Yes. If they weren't, publishers would sell you DLC directly through secondary stores. Every major publisher is big enough to operate a payment platform and does enough business on console platforms to make that choice worthwhile for them. They would choose to do so if they had that as an option.
Yes.
The difference is probably some combination of:
- Epic sees starting fights with platform holders as a risk
- Apple have come under pressure recently to change their policies (Epic may overrate how much Apple care about that pressure)
- Apple offer other apps the ability to run direct payment systems, for selling physical goods and real-world services. So there is an approved exception to the rules there, and Epic maybe think they can somehow make it apply to them
Just don't understand people cheerleading Apple and Google's stranglehold on mobile marketplace. Is basically a utility in the modern age and should be regulated as such.
