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"Fortnite: 120FPS now on iPad Pro, something consoles can't do yet "
- Thread starter ApeEscaper
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I tried it and it's really stunning. A12X is a beast. I mean, it runs full-spec Civ 6 with all the expansions. Not at a great FPS, but it's still very playable.
lol at all the "well ackshually" responses
Just give Apple's mobile chip team the credit and move on. Nobody's forcing you to buy an iPad
Just give Apple's mobile chip team the credit and move on. Nobody's forcing you to buy an iPad
Lots of people don't understand that and say stuff about how devs can finally hit 60fps next gen, ignoring that they can always improve the effects and visuals instead and end up back at 30fps. Anything can be any frame rate if you make it technically compromised.
Apple chips are fucking beasts in the mobile/tablet space, nothing comes close. I can't wait for them to up their chip game and start using them in their macbooks. Fuck intel.
Who cares? So do laptops. You just connect a controller and you play while it sits in front of you.
Who cares? So do laptops. You just connect a controller and you play while it sits in front of you.
But what do we gamers want..? Shouldn't that matter. I honestly don't care for effects and visuals - Just give me 60 frames on consoles. I have been waiting for 10 years. Over 10 years.
Frankly, there's a lot they can still improve about game assets, scope, and graphics. I'd expect many games, particularly open world or single player campaigns, to push to the point of needing 30fps for a long time. If every 60fps game looked as good as the 30fps blockbusters, then sure, we have hit diminishing returns in consoles and the additional detail is not worth losing 60fps anymore. But we aren't there at all.
Most people aren't buying the iPad Pro for gaming mate. Even the 2017 version is still a beast and has a 120hz screen. The iPad Pro is the best product Apple make these days.
Because it was a complete solution from a single vendor on x86 at an excellent price, which is what they wanted.
Then again, they probably didn't realise that it was going to be quite that bad when they first inked the contracts. These things are planned many years in advance.
I'll personally take 60fps over improved graphics any day of the week. I won't notice the graphical decrease after a handful of minutes, but i'll notice the framerate the entire time i'm playing. But framerate vs graphics is a debate as old as consoles.
Yep I can't go back, and I'm still playing on a 980ti. I'll be shocked if an action game like Pirate Warriors 4 still has a locked 60fps console standard for it's PC port in 2020.
High end mobile chips in 2018 vs low end underpowered Apus from 2013 if you want to get technical.
Jaguar was really weak back then, it was a pretty poor low power solution for PS4/XBO
The PS3 and 360 launched with fairly high power consumption and had trouble cooling two components. The APU was a nice single unit that used a low amount in total. Seemed as though both Sony and MS wanted to avoid the mess of the mid 2000s and this is just where AMD were at in performance sadly.
Even Intel's 2009/10 CPUs walked all over AMD's 2011-13 offerings in games. All AMD could offer is more low IPC cores, they struggled for a long time. These were useless for high framerate and not better than the Athlon and Phenom from around 2008/9. Some bulldozer actually had lower perf than older Athlon/phenom in games.
In recent years low power 15w Intel CPUs have eclipsed i7 930 and i5 2500k that are still decent. The Jaguar comes well under i7 930 i5 2500 and these are being smashed by Intel's 15w laptop CPUs in last couple of years. Apple's CPU are up there as well so for the CPU side of things these consoles running Jaguar are well behind. Good news is today AMD are right up there.
The PS3 and 360 launched with fairly high power consumption and had trouble cooling two components. The APU was a nice single unit that used a low amount in total. Seemed as though both Sony and MS wanted to avoid the mess of the mid 2000s and this is just where AMD were at in performance sadly.
Even Intel's 2009/10 CPUs walked all over AMD's 2011-13 offerings in games. All AMD could offer is more low IPC cores, they struggled for a long time. These were useless for high framerate and not better than the Athlon and Phenom from around 2008/9. Some bulldozer actually had lower perf than older Athlon/phenom in games.
In recent years low power 15w Intel CPUs have eclipsed i7 930 and i5 2500k that are still decent. The Jaguar comes well under i7 930 i5 2500 and these are being smashed by Intel's 15w laptop CPUs in last couple of years. Apple's CPU are up there as well so for the CPU side of things these consoles running Jaguar are well behind. Good news is today AMD are right up there.
I mean how would the consoles even output 120Hz besides VR? They don't have any VRR support or anything, right?
But there isn't any doubt the A12X is a more powerful CPU than what the consoles have by far (at least peak / burst performance).
I mean on one hand, it's a macbook, so whatever. But on the other hand that will be terrible. When Apple just decides to drop hardware support for your older software every few years so they can sell you a new higher performance CPU, and when hardware loses OS support within a few years? I pray that day never comes. I'd take Intel every day over Apple in that space.
In Polybius, no.
But there isn't any doubt the A12X is a more powerful CPU than what the consoles have by far (at least peak / burst performance).
I mean on one hand, it's a macbook, so whatever. But on the other hand that will be terrible. When Apple just decides to drop hardware support for your older software every few years so they can sell you a new higher performance CPU, and when hardware loses OS support within a few years? I pray that day never comes. I'd take Intel every day over Apple in that space.
In Polybius, no.
I love my ipad pro, but I've never played a game on it. I didn't even realize it was capable of this, pretty cool actually!
The iPad Pro is a low key beastly gaming tablet. It has a way better screen the Switch, 120hz support, way better quad speakers and support for the PS4/Xbox controller. The games (that is has) are a lot cheaper than the eShop versions as well.
Apple claimed the 2018 iPad Pro has the graphics performance of an Xbox One S, and Digital Foundry didn't even bother discuss it, let alone test it.
I'd be surprised if they tried this, tbh.
Can you sync up a keyboard and mouse? 120fps + KB+M vs everyone else on touch controls. The pub stomping would be unstoppable.
That's super impressive.
Does the iOS version of Fortnite's graphic settings match the PC settings? Meaning, does "medium" on iOS mean the same thing as "medium" on PC?
But the A12X in the 2018 iPad Pro is much faster than the A10X in Apple TV. It has twice the multicore performance.
I would definitely care if my £1000 piece of kit running incredibly hot for extended periods.
That's how you break stuff.
Impressive, but the mobile version of Fortnite is not the same as the console version. It has heavily stripped down assets & visual features compared to its console counterpart; unlike the Switch version, which uses exactly the same assets seen on the other console versions (including Xbox One X).
That's something that usually gets forgotten when looking at mobile platforms that run Fortnite.
That's something that usually gets forgotten when looking at mobile platforms that run Fortnite.
Also, the previous gen iPad Pro start at $350 on eBay for 10.5 models with the same SoC. Still a lot of power in its own right, although lacking 120Hz mode in this update.
This has always been the case with PC gaming. The graphics cards alone are several times more expensive than a One X.
That didn't stop PC gamers from bragging about resolution and frame rate, right?
There are other 120fps games that I find more fun. Hyper Light Drifter and Grid Autosport are pretty damn good.
Monster Hunter Stories apparently does too, but I've not tried it.
Grid Autosport
Hyper Light Drifter
Grim Valor
Odyssey
Sky Children of Light
Journey
All have 120fps support and great visuals. There's a bunch of good games on Apple Arcade too.
You're put into matches with lots of bots when you're new now. Getting wins early is not uncommon.
It's the same issue with a lot of mobile games where you think you're amazing for 10 levels, then you start to see real people. They should make it much clearer.
Ah, makes much more sense.
I know I suck, thought it must have been the responsiveness.
People demanding 60fps at all cost are enough. i have absolutely no appetite for higher fps at all cost beyond 60. Buy a pc or some other modular device if your looking for that imo.
Then if we get that we get the cryjng about graphics or scale of the game. I say let console devs optimize games how they want based on their design goals as they always have.
Vr should be the only thing looking at fps above 60
Then if we get that we get the cryjng about graphics or scale of the game. I say let console devs optimize games how they want based on their design goals as they always have.
Vr should be the only thing looking at fps above 60
