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Fornite skin based off an artist's design (UPDATE: It was actually a fake stunt by the artist)
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You didn't post in a vacuum though.
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Era: Wow, fuck Epic and fuck the artist for stealing
Razor Mom: *Passionately defending their friend*
Era: Wow, can you settle down? You're being a bit harsh
Razor Mom: *Passionately defending their friend*
Era: Wow, can you settle down? You're being a bit harsh
From now on we can just listen to me on this stuff, not because I'm smart but because I have common sense and apparently that's a rare commodity in certain kinds of threads.
Also I can't take Sterling seriously until he posts a video apology on his main channel. He had no qualms posting the video that fueled suspicion of an innocent person on his main channel, so that's where the retraction should go as well
In the mean time let's all
Also I can't take Sterling seriously until he posts a video apology on his main channel. He had no qualms posting the video that fueled suspicion of an innocent person on his main channel, so that's where the retraction should go as well
In the mean time let's all
There's a lot of what is effectively 'sorry I got caught' in this thread. Self reflection required indeed. I don't think it's going to change anyone's behaviour though.
Thank you for the bountiful feast, Era.
Good on the people who apologised to Razor Mom. While this place is too quick to judge others, it is nice to see some people have good manners which is more than you can say for almost any other public forum.
Good on the people who apologised to Razor Mom. While this place is too quick to judge others, it is nice to see some people have good manners which is more than you can say for almost any other public forum.
who wants to bet the next time a similar accusation happens people will completely forget what happened here and just go back to dragging someone thru the mud.
sometimes its ok not to be you Era.
sometimes its ok not to be you Era.
You could point your finger at ERA, but it's no different from any part of the internet. Twitter, other forums, discord, etc, all do the same.
What everyone needs to ask themselves in any situation like this is if they need to throw their stone as well. It's ok to sometimes just watch a story unfold, without having to pass judgement at either side publicly.
What everyone needs to ask themselves in any situation like this is if they need to throw their stone as well. It's ok to sometimes just watch a story unfold, without having to pass judgement at either side publicly.
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Era, Fortnite is the most inoffensive game ever. You, the person reading this. Offended by the existence of Epic. If you're offput by the success of Fortnite then you've put too much of your identity into video games and need to self reflect.
I will only say that when I saw this yesterday, I thought it was a little odd. Odd, because when something like that happens (artist steals a design), it's usually more a heavy-inspiration of the original design, and less a 100% carbon copy, like in this case.
Hell, usually when real concept art from a game company is finally translated to a game (3d model), there are usually some differences here and there, the similarity is more at 90%, and that's an official, 'legal' adaptation from 2d to 3d. Here instead it was uncanny how accurate was one version over the other one.
It was strange than the artist 'stealing' the design would carbon-copy in a better way than they usually do when they are supposed to do it (from the concept arts of his work mates).
Hell, usually when real concept art from a game company is finally translated to a game (3d model), there are usually some differences here and there, the similarity is more at 90%, and that's an official, 'legal' adaptation from 2d to 3d. Here instead it was uncanny how accurate was one version over the other one.
It was strange than the artist 'stealing' the design would carbon-copy in a better way than they usually do when they are supposed to do it (from the concept arts of his work mates).
It´s embarrassing how quickly some people on Era bring out their pitchforks and gleefully condemn people and big bad corporations without any actual facts. It really brings down the quality of the whole site when people are just waiting for any reason to jump on the hate train.
I don't know if you came up with it on your own, but that's been a meme for a while.
I lol'd.
I think alot of us could learn a great lesson on the 'wait and see' approach over 'judgement damned' approach. There's always 3 sides to a story.
How do we know that the artist is 12 years old?
Who has 4 DeviantArt accounts, including a commision account at 12 y.o.?
Edit: From his Twitter bio. The Twitter account which he used to lie even more.
That is awesome.
Who has 4 DeviantArt accounts, including a commision account at 12 y.o.?
Edit: From his Twitter bio. The Twitter account which he used to lie even more.
Anythings possible but I'm assuming the original artist based their OC on some pre-existing cultural clothing/design and epic used the same reference? We'll learn soon enough. Just seems like a stretch that the artist would have to go deeeeeeeeeep into deviantart for inspiration.
This reminds me of a less wholesome version of the dad who translates his kids doodles into illustrations.
Artist Thomas Romain
That is awesome.
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This thread was a fantastic read, thank you all. The biggest corporations will usually attempt to cover their asses on matters like this because the owners know they could get royally taken to the cleaners if they did something this stupid. They actually have enough spare cash to pay lawyers, meaning they're collectively less suspicious than anyone smaller. Think of it this way-- a company with as much cash as Epic could hire a entire platoon of lawyers to cover every aspect of their product 24/7/365 for the cost of even one possible small copyright lawsuit against them. So they're going hire lawyers to watch for this stuff.
I don't care for Epic for a variety of reasons, but at least I don't need to add this to the list.
I don't care for Epic for a variety of reasons, but at least I don't need to add this to the list.
They pull this JUST often enough to make sure you can never trust the first guy!
Goes to show you how quickly people will jump on the bandwagon to hate on some companies despite very little proof.
I'd be embarrassed to be on the first few pages.
I'd be embarrassed to be on the first few pages.
I knew from the minute I saw this thread that almost every hot take would be fueled mostly by
MUH STEAM
Never mind it's an innocent artist freelancing for epic having their name dragged and *their* design essentially stolen since the mob believed that it was created by a 12 year old... Muh steam, fuck epic, etc.
I hope some of these posters one day find out what it's like to spend years of your life honing a skill and developing a style only to have their reputation attacked and their art essentially stolen from them by a hate mob (and negativity/outrage mongers like Sterling) because of business deals on game launchers that are completely out of their control
It's not just ERA though, it's the internet at large. People should take a deep breath and pause, wait for more concrete info and not jump to immediate conclusions. I think this thread should be stickied as a reminder to folks.
I've been using Era less and less these past few weeks just because of the overwhelming negativity that can be found here. It's depressing man. It's easy to say "Well just ignore those threads" but when most of the threads are full of some sort of controversy then you have to ask yourself "is it even worth browsing through anymore".
I love this place but it's becoming hard to stick around for as long as I used to. It feels like the place becomes less and less about actual "games" as the weeks go on.
/rantover
I don't think it's the last few weeks. It's been like this since day 0. It's entertaining when you're in with the negativity. But I've grown long past that and the rampant "smart" cynicism that seems to dominate most threads here. It seems some people are more interested in generating controversy than anything else.
I just finished getting caught up on the events here. I think we should all try to learn something from this with future topics.
When I was browsing ERA yesterday I saw this thread and my mind immediately jumped to the conclusion that Epic stole the costume design, then I just moved on without challenging that thought. We are so used to bad stories about the world like this happening, that it's just a typical day to do a negative reaction post to the news and move on.
Having Razor Mom tell us the real world impact about a freelance artist who was terrified for their career due to an internet lie + reactionary mob made me feel regret about my own initial reaction. This is a situation none of us want to be in or worry about in our own lives. It shows us exactly that there are potential victims to these kinds of stories all the time, and our own actions play a part in that. I think trying to be more introspective about our thought patterns and challenging them would do each of us a lot of good, if not collectively as a community, then at least on an individual level.
When I was browsing ERA yesterday I saw this thread and my mind immediately jumped to the conclusion that Epic stole the costume design, then I just moved on without challenging that thought. We are so used to bad stories about the world like this happening, that it's just a typical day to do a negative reaction post to the news and move on.
Having Razor Mom tell us the real world impact about a freelance artist who was terrified for their career due to an internet lie + reactionary mob made me feel regret about my own initial reaction. This is a situation none of us want to be in or worry about in our own lives. It shows us exactly that there are potential victims to these kinds of stories all the time, and our own actions play a part in that. I think trying to be more introspective about our thought patterns and challenging them would do each of us a lot of good, if not collectively as a community, then at least on an individual level.
In general, thats fine, but i think the lesson here is to get more facts on the table before making a conclusion, regardless if that or those persons work for a big or small company. Everyone, both big and small, can make things up, even if its ment as a joke or a deliberate lie.
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I don't think we have enough information just yet so I'm gonna wait before I jump to conclusions.
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