Can we not? Can we just not reduce this to a Marvel quote fest?
quoting from a corporate lowest-common-denominator mediocrity seems pretty apt for Biden boosterism, tbh.
Can we not? Can we just not reduce this to a Marvel quote fest?
Because he already won the primary
He already said vp would be a Woman. Why would you think bloomberg at all? He wouldn't pick him even if he picked a guy.Ehh, can we wait on his VP pick first? He can signal Warren all he wants but this is Biden..... Fuck around and end up with President Bloomberg. Would be impeaching them boys down the list 20 deep until we found someone decent like Battlestar Galactica after the whole damn administration got wiped out.
Ehh, can we wait on his VP pick first? He can signal Warren all he wants but this is Biden..... Fuck around and end up with President Bloomberg. Would be impeaching them boys down the list 20 deep until we found someone decent like Battlestar Galactica after the whole damn administration got wiped out.
I don't understand the problem. It's a popular well known thought that is being used as a rallying call. The movies are dumb popcorn entertainment but they are familiar to people and relay an idea that's easy to understand. Why not use it?Can we not? Can we just not reduce this to a Marvel quote fest?
I don't understand the problem. It's a popular well known thought that is being used as a rallying call. The movies are dumb popcorn entertainment but they are familiar to people and relay an idea that's easy to understand. Why not use it?
Can we not? Can we just not reduce this to a Marvel quote fest?
I figured "blue no matter who" sounded better with it being less of a meme and more to the point and political. Maybe not then.It was "Vote Blue No Matter Who" before, but that was seen as insensitive; and it also makes a far more direct reference to Biden himself, who most people don't even really care for. So the focus was switched to Trump with: "Whatever it takes to remove that asshole" to dial down on what needs to be done, still signal unity in removing the orange clown, while not telling people who they need to support directly like the other quote could be misconstrued as.
I think its clear that it doesn't matter what the rallying call is here; Bidens the nominee. People aren't going to like it period. The movies aren't the issue really. It's the nominee.
contry to what the media wants, the best thing bidan can is nothing, literally nothing. the more trump speaks, the worse trumps numbers get.
there are people in the media who want him to speak, he should just ignore them./shrug is anyone saying otherwise? Bidens been damn near invisible outside of endorsements and PACs like this. Its perfect.
I figured they implied the allegations and not policy related stuff./shrug is anyone saying otherwise? Bidens been damn near invisible outside of endorsements and PACs like this. Its perfect.
Cause people don't give a fuck.
That's silly. The discussions around the various topics have already said as much in many more words. Many will vote for whoever the dem nominee is because Trump is a know quantity. Saying so in meme format doesn't change the sentiment. The idea of "Vote blue no matter who" being offensive is absurd just like saying "whatever it takes" prevents any complex critical analysis of what to do with your vote is also absurd.It was "Vote Blue No Matter Who" before, but that was seen as insensitive; and it also makes a far more direct reference to Biden himself, who most people don't even really care for. So the focus was switched to Trump with: "Whatever it takes to remove that asshole" to dial down on what needs to be done, still signal unity in removing the orange clown, while not telling people who they need to support directly like the other quote could be misconstrued as.
I think its clear that it doesn't matter what the rallying call is here; Bidens the nominee. People aren't going to like it period. The movies aren't the issue really. It's the nominee.
I don't understand the problem. It's a popular well known thought that is being used as a rallying call. The movies are dumb popcorn entertainment but they are familiar to people and relay an idea that's easy to understand. Why not use it?
some of us are eager to end the rise of fascism in this county
some of us are eager to end the rise of fascism in this county
Can we not? Can we just not reduce this to a Marvel quote fest?
Because "whatever it takes" seems to be willing to throw more and more people under the bus.
Everyone that isn't a rich straight white christian male will be thrown under the bus if Trump is re-elected.
"Compromise where you can. Where you can't, don't. Even if everyone is telling you that something wrong is something right. Even if the whole world is telling you to move, it is your duty to plant yourself like a tree, look them in the eye, and say, 'No, you move.'"
You can't stop enthusiasm for getting this president out. Saying that someone will vote for Biden no matter what is the same as whatever it takes. Showing Captain America and saying it isn't really different than what people have said for months. I'm not really sure the reasoning behind disarming every phrase people come up with to push forward their cause really is. But these aren't dirty phrases just because People have issues with Biden. Whatever it takes doesn't throw anyone under the bus it's just enthusiasm for a democratic win.Because "whatever it takes" seems to be willing to throw more and more people under the bus.
Agreed, so the best thing is to push for the facts of the rape investigation right now (such as releasing the records from the University of Deleware) before we are forced to choose between two rapists and not double down and hope it's nothing. Whatever it takes should not have to mean "vote for the rapist". Whatever it takes should be to fight for what's right till the bitter fucking end. Or, since we're going to be throwing nerd quotes around:
Agree to disagree. Fact is, memes aren't banned on ERA, not in political topics. If that's something you seek its probably best reported and not discussed out in the open in a topic like this between two people with zero decision making ability; serving only to drag things offtopic. I was personally approached by a poster about the whole "Blue no matter Who" verbiage and how they didn't like it, and how it made them feel.
I like, "Whatever it takes" and will continue to voice my support for removing him in that manner unless told otherwise by moderation. You can PM me if you want; but this is offtopic and adds nothing to this discussion atm.
That's a great quote - in that movie Cap chooses not to compromise for the greater good, the Avengers coalition breaks up and half of humanity is killed as Thanos rolls in unopposed by a united front. Very apt.
If Obama did not stop the rise of fascism in the US, what makes you think Biden will?some of us are eager to end the rise of fascism in this county
Good point.I said it was a shitty quote. I'm just not convinced you mean whatever it takes because you seem to be very eager to give in right now months before the election or even before we even have proof either way.
Biden winning means Trump and his administration not winning, and not having the supreme court be hard red for 50 years, setting back lgbt rights, minority rights, women's rights, social security, medicare/medicaid, anti gun laws, climate change....and handling COVID. Not to mention not handwaving nazis, or not inciting civil war in a pandemic.If Obama did not stop the rise of fascism in the US, what makes you think Biden will?
Get Biden elected then impeach him once we stack congress and get his likely good VP pick as POTUS.
Whatever it takes to make Trump lose ffs.
some of us are eager to end the rise of fascism in this county
That's a great quote - in that movie Cap chooses not to compromise for the greater good, the Avengers coalition breaks up and half of humanity is killed as Thanos rolls in unopposed by a united front. Very apt.
Plus, if Bernie's camp doesn't do this and Biden loses too, Bernie's side gets blamed again.
Plus, if Bernie's camp doesn't do this and Biden loses too, Bernie's side gets blamed again.
I said it was a shitty quote. I'm just not convinced you mean whatever it takes because you seem to be very eager to give in right now months before the election or even before we even have proof either way.
What are you even talking about? Give in to what? It's Biden vs. Trump in November. You can choose to stop Trump (and spend the next few months doing what you can to do so) or you can choose to support Trump. Those are your two options. Bernie, Pelosi, AOC, Obama have all made their choice. As have I.
Uh huh....and when the next Republican is inevitably elected, and is inevitably a cryptofascist because the GOP have realised they can get away with anything, but the difference being that this cryptofascist is smart and knows how to wield power? What about Proud Boys and Atomwaffen? The seeds of these groups groups were planted in during the Obama administration. Will they somehow vanish when Biden is elected?Biden winning means Trump and his administration not winning, and not having the supreme court be hard red for 50 years, setting back lgbt rights, minority rights, women's rights, social security, medicare/medicaid, anti gun laws, climate change....and handling COVID.
Basically you are saying letting Trump win won't really matter because there are still other bad guys too.... so just give up?Uh huh....and when the next Republican is inevitably elected, and is inevitably a cryptofascist because the GOP have realised they can get away with anything, but the difference being that this cryptofascist is smart and knows how to wield power? What about Proud Boys and Atomwaffen? The seeds of these groups groups were planted in during the Obama administration. Will they somehow vanish when Biden is elected?
Get Biden elected then impeach him once we stack congress and get his likely good VP pick as POTUS.
Whatever it takes to make Trump lose ffs.
Basically you are saying letting Trump win won't really matter because there are still other bad guys too.... so just give up?
The chances of this happening are slimmer than him not even being the nominee which is already 0.0%
People should stop entertaining this fantasy that Biden will be impeached. If he's elected, he's President, that's it.
Where or how did I imply that wasn't the case at all?Incredibly there are things you can do in between waiting 2/4 years to vote. Your voice doesn't go away after the electoral season is over.
I did not say you shouldn't vote for him. Whether anybody does or does not is completely up to them.Basically you are saying letting Trump win won't really matter because there are still other bad guys too.... so just give up?