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FootyEra 19/20 Season |OT| CrowdNoise.mp3
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Good on the England fans for chanting back support. I imagine it's not very nice being a black player on that pitch at the moment so nice to hear that I imagine.
Stop the game
Good on the England fans for chanting back support. I imagine it's not very nice being a black player on that pitch at the moment so nice to hear that I imagine.
Stop the game
Yeah for a bit whenever Mings got the ball you could hear them.
How? Stop the game give England the win.
If it happens next match do exactly the same. Keep banning people.
Since UEFA are a bunch of dicks, short of a fan killing someone, if England stop the match they'd be awarded the defeat along with some sort of punishment. England would have to appeal to hell and back.
If the ref decides of his own volition to stop the match..that's a different story.
I don't believe in punishing fair people for others actions. The only way you beat this kind of abuse is to answer on the pitch. Alot of England fans have traveled over here and want to see there team for the entirity and theres alot of sound bulgarians too. You can ban the racists but that wont stop them being racist.
international breaks are great just cause you see national teams play in general. It's a different kind of energy.
+ Every break you hear a story of a player or two with some unbelievable story of how they got to this point, or of something recently happening in the world or political wise that makes X game more meaningful.
Leading to really emotional national anthems and stuff.
the complaining doesn't make sense imo. It's once every few months. shrug.
If Bulgaria keep losing matches 0-3 before they've really begun because they forfeit automatically when their fans abuse a black player that's much stronger than this 3 step protocol farce.
They've been trying this solution for the last fifty years, I don't think it's working.
John Barnes experienced more racism on a football field than you ever have and he believes in education about racism, not just walking off a football field. That solves nothing, if anything it's a green light to racists.
Racist chants should be an instant forfeit, if it happens a 2nd time during the same qualifiers throw them out of the qualifiers entirely.
They're doing monkey chants and Nazi salutes. These people are beyond that point.
Neither has walking off a football field, I take it your familiar with the racism in Italy? They've walked off and its still rife as it ever was. Theres racist abuse in Italy every week at every game, so your basically asking for no games to be played on Italy. Well isn't that punishing the supporters who just want to go and support there team and not partake in racist behaviour.
John Barnes is not the only ex-black footballer and his opinion is not the be all and end all. But of course you would wheel him out to support your soft approach to this kind of abuse.
Hit UEFA in their pockets and then drastic action will be taken. I don't expect football to realistically stop these morons in every game, but they sure as hell can send out a message that this won't be tolerated. Not a paltry fine.
Yeah, but unfortunately that's not how UEFA (nor FIFA) work as of now.
Expand it to the Leagues as well, fuck racist "ultras" as well. Though I doubt UEFA will ever have the balls (or will) to make something like this happen.
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Barnes speaks more sense than most to be fair. I used him as an example as he was high profile, had banana's thrown at him and yet still speaks with more common sense. I'm not wheeling him out and the way you referenced me doing so is quite disturbing.
It's funny. When hooligans of clubs cause trouble abroad, their respective teams face expulsion from UEFA competitions. None of this "let's educate them, talk to them, try to understand them."
But when it comes to racist fans "hey they just need some education. Don't punish everyone else for the behaviour of a few. If you walk off, they win."
It really speaks volumes on how people perceive things.
But when it comes to racist fans "hey they just need some education. Don't punish everyone else for the behaviour of a few. If you walk off, they win."
It really speaks volumes on how people perceive things.
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But threatening to walk off the pitch and then not following through with it isn't going to do anything.
When was the last time a club got banned from a competition for hooliganism?
A year ago a liverpool fan got beaten almost to death in a planned attack by Roma ultra's. Roma didn't face expulsion and nobody asked them to be expelled from the competition and somebody nearly died.
Like expelling teams from competitions stops the racist abuse and hooligans.
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if countries like England, France, Germany, etc. start actually walking off pitches and quitting tournaments; and hurting UEFA/FIFA's bottom line, you'll see rapid change.
I'm not going to go back and forth. I know John Barnes is the go to token for people who have no real life experience dealing with racism. Whilst I won't deny John Barnes experienced horrific racism, he is seriously out of touch and is used as a buffer for those who can sit safely on their couch, and pontificate on how those who bare the brunt of this abuse should react.
But, again, if England did that they'd be the ones awarded the defeat acording to the current rules. Regardless of it being justified. It's the ref that has to stop the game in order for that to not happen.
UEFA/FIFA in their infinite wisdom obviously never foresaw (or cared about) situations like these... it's why the Leagues (in particular) are filled to the brim with racists cunts all over the Europe (and I'd assume the world as well).
The amount of money those FA's would lose by refusing to show up means the higher-ups are unlikely to make that move.
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as long as we're recognising that individual football associations have a big role to play, not just FIFA and UEFA.
Another good point that Sky Sports' report at HT brought up was that he noticed 6 separate incidents of racial abuse within a 10 minute period, which prompted the warning. That just doesn't make sense on any level. When it's repeated once it's beyond 'warnings' and 'understanding' and 'education'.
6 times.
6 times.
They have, absolutely, but we're talking about millions here. I can only see England's FA maybe being able to sustain itself without UEFA money, everyone else is fairly dependant on those participation prizes.
It would be the biggest slap in the face, for sure, but I'm not sure anyone will ever really risk it.
England should stay on the pitch. All the fans making racist chants should have an all expenses paid trip to the museum of tolerance and get a nice cuddle at the end. Because you know, actually doing something means the racists win to some people in their utopia.
What would you do aside from walking off the pitch? Because that doesnt stop racist people being racist or going the game and being racist. So what's your masterplan on how to stop it?
Uefa/ Fifa need to do tournament or qualification outright bans
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! Another massive save, Pepe fails to tap it in and 30 seconds later Danilo sends a screamer straight into the bar.
We just can't score today, Jesus Christ.
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And it's over. Ukraine played to their strenghts, they didn't really deserve the win IMO but their keeper made sure to keep them in the match. Any other day and we'd have won by 3 or 4 considering the amount of opportunities we had.
Overall they probably deserve to go through as the 1st placed team since they were super consistent up until this point in term of results.
So many attempts, so many shots on goal and the only way we scored was with a damn penalty. What a performance by their keeper.
We just can't score today, Jesus Christ.
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And it's over. Ukraine played to their strenghts, they didn't really deserve the win IMO but their keeper made sure to keep them in the match. Any other day and we'd have won by 3 or 4 considering the amount of opportunities we had.
Overall they probably deserve to go through as the 1st placed team since they were super consistent up until this point in term of results.
So many attempts, so many shots on goal and the only way we scored was with a damn penalty. What a performance by their keeper.
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We've already played them twice though, so it's not looking good for them. We have another match against Luxembourg (away) and Lithuania (home). In theory, both matches won't produce anything but wins for us.
yeh don't know how we pulled a point out of that dumpster fire. Demiral and Soyuncu having to literally make up for garbage players like Tufan and Yilmaz, whilst France was playing brilliantly.
Yes! We did it! This is the best Ukraine team ever, Sheva did amazing job. Securing first place in the group with Portugal with one match still to go, is more than anyone in Ukraine could hope for.
Guess i should start saving money and vacation days for the next summer. :]
Guess i should start saving money and vacation days for the next summer. :]
Turkish players once again celebrating the Syria invasion to murder the Kurds, just kick them out of the qualifiers already ffs. Racism from fans is one thing, this is players repeatedly celebrating war crimes against an ethnic minority which is infinitely worse.
Fair play mate, you were a lot more consistent than us during the whole qualifier and managed to tie in Lisbon as well. 1st place is deserved even if I don't think your win today was particularly deserved :P
Well, you lost first half quite clearly and won the second half. You cant win by playing only half a game every time, and, for me, it was almost the motto of Portugal in this campaign. See you at the Euro, I have a feeling we will be drawn together again. :)
We have a proper back line these days. Mert seems to be a much less anxiety inducing option than our previous mate, Demirel.
I highly doubt the intention of the players is to celebrate war crimes.
If some of these lads weren't playing football, they'd be on that trip to Syria to, regardless of if they agreed with what they're doing or not. I bet some of their friends, brothers, cousins are heading down or already there.
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