Guns freak me out, I don't want them in the house but i'd be lying if I said I didn't entertain the notion of buying a shotgun. I don't trust these people to not go purge on me because of hand sanitizer
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Food and Firearms, the American Way!
- Thread starter AbsoluteZero0K
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Capitalism is gonna strike you say. And I say...yeah, I can see it happening.
Gonna be totally honest I gave real thought to going out to get one too. Fear is a hell of a drug.
Again, this false equivalency around cars gets used again and again and it doesn't stop it from being false. The entire purpose for the existence of firearms is to kill things. The entire purpose of a car is not to kill things. The other issue I have with your take is "people think it's well worth the risks to own a car". This is true. "It's the same story for people who squirrel away a few guns", this is not true. We as a society take the risks into account when it comes to vehicles, however, there are fewer and fewer households that own firearms in the United States. There is real polling that shows that people are in favor of stricter gun control. And yet, we have people like you who muddy the water with semantic arguments to try to defend these fucking morons who are buying up ammo as if it's World War Z. People don't agree on firearms, people agree on cars.
I don't feel like continuing to engage you on this as it's clear you think throwing around semantic arguments to be a shield against real criticisms of this type of behavior. Stop legitimizing, stop justifying and stop defending this shit. It's gross and it will kill people.
So you gave absolutely no thought. Wonderful.
As a gun owner, there are millions of people who really should not have any. I don't see any path to getting them away from those people though, and the more who buy them the harder it gets.
This is my home defense. All I have is a 55lb recurve and some decent target arrows. Also a big dog.
This is my home defense. All I have is a 55lb recurve and some decent target arrows. Also a big dog.
Ace, fetch!
that 2nd source @'ing cernovich has ...uh...quite the timeline.
I really think these people want to shoot anyone with the sniffles. It's disturbing. Showing off their tac gear on line. Like yeah, I own that shit too, but I'm spending the time getting high with my partner binge watching Top Chef, not prepping to put rounds in sick people.
And this is coming from someone who owns a lot of guns and has thousands of rounds in his home
And this is coming from someone who owns a lot of guns and has thousands of rounds in his home
no. There was plenty of thought. I didn't have a single shot revolver, and I needed one. And I was doing it within the next month so why not now? Seemed as good of a time as any.
I'm worried about police getting sick. Call centers not responding. We already saw Portland police say there only responding to life threatening emergencies. I got rid of my guns when I moved a while ago. I am now buying again. I wanted a gun that I can load an not worry about when it sits in my nightstand or coffee table for weeks. So I got my Ruger.
If you were born and raised in New York City, the rest of the state and Staten Island is the Dark Zone.
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I tried my best to pick the ones that did not sound so... Unhinged
I don't think anyone's "planning to shoot anyone with the sniffles", I think people are choosing to be ready in the off chance that the police can't help you if someone decides that they'll take advantage of first responders being swamped.
Think what you want, but if my neighbors aren't getting high in their car(with a line of sight to me) when I'm moving mine out of the driveway so my wife can just go in the morning, my P99 comes out the door with me. I've heard of one too many muggings within a few miles of me.
Think what you want, but if my neighbors aren't getting high in their car(with a line of sight to me) when I'm moving mine out of the driveway so my wife can just go in the morning, my P99 comes out the door with me. I've heard of one too many muggings within a few miles of me.
Is this to prepare for defense in case things turn worse, or to prepare to being able to steal other people resources if things go worse?
I own 3 guns. This is dumb. I was actually supposed to go to the gun shop yesterday to pick up my compound bow, which I'm having restrung (they have an Archery department as well). Assumed that it would be a madhouse in there, and ended up skipping that.
Cheap-ish. You can get a decent sub-compact semiautomatic handgun for as little as a couple hundred dollars.
You can get something on the AR platform for as cheap as like $500, too. Might not be the best model, but if you pull the trigger, it will go boom, and a dangerous tiny object will fly out of the business end.
Restrictions vary by state. They have pretty sensible laws here in NJ. You have to have a permit to purchase a handgun, and you need to apply at your local police station for those. Can take a few weeks sometimes. The dealer will have to run you through an "instant" background check at the point of sale, to make sure you haven't committed any felonies between the time the police issued your permit and the point of sale. You need to go through that process for each handgun you buy (though you can apply for 2 permits at the same time).
For ANY gun, you have to have a Firearms purchaser ID card. You also get this through the police, and they do a background check. This card allows you to purchase ammunition, and any "long" gun (rifles or shotguns). You don't need a permit for each individual long gun, but you DO still have to do the check at the point of sale.
Cheap-ish. You can get a decent sub-compact semiautomatic handgun for as little as a couple hundred dollars.
You can get something on the AR platform for as cheap as like $500, too. Might not be the best model, but if you pull the trigger, it will go boom, and a dangerous tiny object will fly out of the business end.
Restrictions vary by state. They have pretty sensible laws here in NJ. You have to have a permit to purchase a handgun, and you need to apply at your local police station for those. Can take a few weeks sometimes. The dealer will have to run you through an "instant" background check at the point of sale, to make sure you haven't committed any felonies between the time the police issued your permit and the point of sale. You need to go through that process for each handgun you buy (though you can apply for 2 permits at the same time).
For ANY gun, you have to have a Firearms purchaser ID card. You also get this through the police, and they do a background check. This card allows you to purchase ammunition, and any "long" gun (rifles or shotguns). You don't need a permit for each individual long gun, but you DO still have to do the check at the point of sale.
come on guys it's obvious that they need the guns so they can get the toilet paper by any means necessary.
I'm 100% for a complete ban on firearms, or at least some heavily regulated restrictions, but I hate this argument.
Like no shit your chances of being shot are higher with a gun, just look at the suicide rates. It's as stupid an argument as the "owning a car makes you more likely to get in a car accident".
You can get used 9mm/45 hi-points for $100-120 or any POS saturday night special tho they arnt the most ideal option. $200-300 will get you more higher quality budget ones, surplus stuff or the lower end of police trade ins. REAL "Assault Rifles" will run you $10,000+ and involve a lot of red tape. Semi-auto rifles like the AR15 can be gotten for as low as $375-500 for entry ones.
GUNS AND FOOD?
hand guns go around 200 bucks and assault rifle around 500.
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Every handgun I've bought has been ~$450-600. But there are cheap crap guns that can be had for less.
I think some people are misinterpreting the rush to get ammo. In most cases, it isn't to be ready for people trying to steal their toilet paper and hand sanitizer. As mentioned earlier, if there is any whiff of there being a run on ammo, people go nuts and stock up on it.
I sold ammo for years at the store I worked for. These crazy ammo runs can be caused by anything. In this case, people likely see everything selling out, and it caused the ever-common run on ammo.
I sold ammo for years at the store I worked for. These crazy ammo runs can be caused by anything. In this case, people likely see everything selling out, and it caused the ever-common run on ammo.
You can get some bottom barrel hi point for $200 and build an AR-15 for about $500.
Everything I have is between $500-$3500
I will wait for someone who used to sell water to explain why people are buying water in the face of a crisis before coming to any conclusions.
Others have also explained ammo runs, but go ahead and keep thinking it's to kill neighbors. 🙄
Ammo hoarding is extremely common, and happens all the time.
Ammo prices tend to be extremely volatile. As mentioned if theres a hint of shortages people will buy stuff up and stockpile similarly to anything else in a crisis situation. They dont want to have to worry about not finding 9mm in a few months or even a year in some cases or be forced to spend $30 on a normal $9 box of ammo. People still want to be able to train, hunt, goto the range and just have something put away. Its really not about them thinking their going to blow someone away.
I laughed way too hard at this. How is there a Simpsons gif so perfectly suited for every situation?
They knew how people would react to stuff their are not used to or did the wacky take of events. And then the wacky became reality.
But why are they hoarding ammo?
It's either to be able to kill many things, to kill things for a long time, or to resell at increased prices to someone who wants to do one of the former.
This doesnt apply to any of the people I know who hoard guns/ammo. Where it is explicitly doomsday prepping.
I would give the person my wallet instead of shooting them. Just a suggestion.
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Ppl don't horde ammo to use at a shooting range, and not in the numbers we've seen.
The boviously won't be able to hunt or go to the shooting range in case of a lockdown, so I guess they'll expect international terrorist to enter their home, if the intention is not to kill their own neighbors.