Holy shit, that's bad lmfao
Holy shit, that's bad lmfao
Why should I care about this? What is the point of a nearly hourlong takedown of a internet joke character who is already way past his expiration date? Who really cares if some YouTube angry reviewer got some things about the movie wrong?
These are the questions that bounced through my head upon finding this thread. I clicked on the video anyway though, and learned some interesting stuff about a movie I've never seen. I don't think it really does much to damage or diminish the reputation of the Nostalgia Critic character since his reputation is already at a nadir, but it was cool to get some thoughtful perspective on a film I had generally dismissed as psychedelic self-indulgence. I will try and give it a viewing if I can find a reliable stream. Hopefully Doug Walker has learned not to engage with works beyond 80's and 90's pop culture ephemera.
The Wall is far from a perfect film; it's messy, indulgent, and blunt to a fault with its symbolism at times. But that said, it DOES chart out a plausible personal journey someone may take to embracing fascism and nationalism, and I think there's a lot of value in that. It's a film you get more out of if you unfocus your eyes a bit and take in what it constantly throws at you with a fairly wide berth, but it's certainly NOT the aimless, petty film NC plays it as.Why should I care about this? What is the point of a nearly hourlong takedown of a internet joke character who is already way past his expiration date? Who really cares if some YouTube angry reviewer got some things about the movie wrong?
These are the questions that bounced through my head upon finding this thread. I clicked on the video anyway though, and learned some interesting stuff about a movie I've never seen. I don't think it really does much to damage or diminish the reputation of the Nostalgia Critic character since his reputation is already at a nadir, but it was cool to get some thoughtful perspective on a film I had generally dismissed as psychedelic self-indulgence. I will try and give it a viewing if I can find a reliable stream. Hopefully Doug Walker has learned not to engage with works beyond 80's and 90's pop culture ephemera.
Just going by the clips in the Folding Ideas video, it really does look like I'm 14 And This Is Deep: The Movie. I'm not sure if I'd be able to take it that seriously in the year 2021, even knowing that it was doing some ground-breaking stuff when it was originally released.The Wall is far from a perfect film; it's messy, indulgent, and blunt to a fault with its symbolism at times.
Doug seemed so earnest when he was plugging that album too, like he truly believed it. The montage of lyrics about thinking the work was dumb and pandering played right before the clip of Doug saying it was a love letter so please buy his parody album. People say NC only has 3 faces and overacts but damn, how could that segment not be an act.I can't imagine literally taking a shit on something like The Wall and then having the gall to earnestly call it a "love letter".
Man, the difference between Dan and Doug is amazing, and perfectly highlighted by the video.
Plus, Doug has the most incredibly-punchable face. I really don't understand how anyone could watch his content.
What does "having an incredibly-punchable face" even mean? Dude sucks but still what?
punchable face
When someone has got the kind of face that irritates you to the point of wanting to punch them
That bitch ass Talyn has gotta have the school achievement for most punchable face
Urban Dictionary: punchable face
When someone has got the kind of face that irritates you to the point of wanting to punch themwww.urbandictionary.com
I first watched it in college (which was admittedly... a while ago) without knowing that much about Pink Floyd but I really enjoyed it regardless. I think if you go in being thinking about how the movie is trying to be deep you won't really enjoy it but if you go in willing to appreciate the interesting approach to how they tell the story, it's very enjoyable. And some sequences, like the Goodbye Blue Skies are pretty affecting.Just going by the clips in the Folding Ideas video, it really does look like I'm 14 And This Is Deep: The Movie. I'm not sure if I'd be able to take it that seriously in the year 2021, even knowing that it was doing some ground-breaking stuff when it was originally released.
The animation segments really do look incredible -- if the movie is only available at 480P/DVD-quality, then that is a shame.
Thisi s gonna be off topic, but something I've noticed is that when you get a person who is disliked enough, even among progressive communities, regressive instincts come out. For example, I remember back during a Jimquisition, Jim Stephanie Sterling featured a story about a developer who stole music I think from an artist and refused to pay them for it or something like that. Except this developer was a woman, so suddenly the Jimquisitions otherwise progressive community got real misogynistic real fast, instantly launching a harassment campaign. They (meaning Jim/Stephanie) deleted the video and then posted a reaction video to explain why they had to remove the video and how disappointed they were in their community that they went on to harass the woman.What does "having an incredibly-punchable face" even mean? Dude sucks but still what?
Thisi s gonna be off topic, but something I've noticed is that when you get a person who is disliked enough, even among progressive communities, regressive instincts come out. For example, I remember back during a Jimquisition, Jim Stephanie Sterling featured a story about a developer who stole music I think from an artist and refused to pay them for it or something like that. Except this developer was a woman, so suddenly the Jimquisitions otherwise progressive community got real misogynistic real fast, instantly launching a harassment campaign. They (meaning Jim/Stephanie) deleted the video and then posted a reaction video to explain why they had to remove the video and how disappointed they were in their community that they went on to harass the woman.
So, whereas "Punchable face" is usually an alt-right thing nowadays because the term is rooted in that the idea that men can look a certain way as a way of deserving to be punched, and that mentality tends to crop up in really distasteful areas. In fact, I just saw Jim's twitter getting a few threats of violence because according to them Jim is so ugly that they warrant it, so it's something most progressive crowds eschew from....except it creeps back up when we have someone we can treat as a common enemy, like Doug.
It kind of highlights how abusive language tends to not be the solely due to personal beliefs but simply because they often come from societal inequalities, and people will use bigoted language not only if they believe bigoted things, but whether bigoted language can be advantageous to them in a particular moment. Jim thought they could write a story attacking a developer for the similar bad actions that they've attacked dozens of other developers for doing without igniting a harassment campaign against a woman because their audience was not like that, and they weren't...until they were.
So, being mindful of that, punchable face is not the best insult to use against anyone. Doug sucks so much at so many things, but his face has nothing to do with it.
The best way I could describe it is his facial expressions look like something out of a hastily put together Source Film Maker animation?Doug seemed so earnest when he was plugging that album too, like he truly believed it. The montage of lyrics about thinking the work was dumb and pandering played right before the clip of Doug saying it was a love letter so please buy his parody album. People say NC only has 3 faces and overacts but damn, how could that segment not be an act.
Phil Fish just said hello.This is gonna be off topic, but something I've noticed is that when you get a person who is disliked enough, even among progressive communities, regressive instincts come out.
To give Doug some credit, he did attempt to end the Nostalgia Critic when it was becoming stale. Unfortunately, his new project, Demo Reel, was such disaster that he was forced back into being the Nostalgia Critic.Doug Walker's "thing" got started with cheap, easy to digest internet videos. 5 Second Movies was funny at the time because it was quick jokes. Nostalgia Critic had its appeal as a vehicle through which to visit bad movies/shows from your childhood that you barely remember. His jokes "worked" in those "reviews" because the thing he was reviewing was already bad and full of low-hanging fruit. When the material ran out and he made a video over all the bad movies/shows from the mid-80s to mid-90s so did his appeal. It was the material he was reviewing that made for an entertaining video, he really didn't do much to add to it.
I distinctly remember one Q&A video for some anniversary or some shit when he was asked when he'd stop doing NC and he mentioned when he'd run out of material to review. He obviously tumbled well past that point but what's telling is he clearly knew his schtick was mostly dependant on the material. He knew at some point in the past that there would definitely come a time when the whole NC thing would be past its prime. And yet today he pretends like everything is fine.
Nostalgia Critic and TVTRopes kind of grew alongside one another right?I watched the Lady Emily video and it really put into perspective how much of a failure Demo Reel is to both a series and a career.
The purgatory of doing a job that you find stale while forgoing your passion just to make enough money. He escaped one shitty job and forced to do another shitty job of his own making. Forever.
Also the Tvtropes pages on him are hilariously cringy.
He was on Channel Awesome though even back then he was vocally critical of Doug, albeit in a more joke-y fashion; at one convention panel, he introduced himself as Doug Walker who "always answers e-mails in a timely manner".
I'm gonna need context hereRemember that time him and AVGN were in an anime? That was weird
It was in an anime Psychic Squad.
Here's the scene. It's just a very brief cameo. Nothing to do with the plot.
(Same off-topic tangent, sorry.)Thisi s gonna be off topic, but something I've noticed is that when you get a person who is disliked enough, even among progressive communities, regressive instincts come out. For example, I remember back during a Jimquisition, Jim Stephanie Sterling featured a story about a developer who stole music I think from an artist and refused to pay them for it or something like that. Except this developer was a woman, so suddenly the Jimquisitions otherwise progressive community got real misogynistic real fast, instantly launching a harassment campaign. They (meaning Jim/Stephanie) deleted the video and then posted a reaction video to explain why they had to remove the video and how disappointed they were in their community that they went on to harass the woman.
So, whereas "Punchable face" is usually an alt-right thing nowadays because the term is rooted in that the idea that men can look a certain way as a way of deserving to be punched, and that mentality tends to crop up in really distasteful areas. In fact, I just saw Jim's twitter getting a few threats of violence because according to them Jim is so ugly that they warrant it, so it's something most progressive crowds eschew from....except it creeps back up when we have someone we can treat as a common enemy, like Doug.
It kind of highlights how abusive language tends to not be the solely due to personal beliefs but simply because they often come from societal inequalities, and people will use bigoted language not only if they believe bigoted things, but whether bigoted language can be advantageous to them in a particular moment. Jim thought they could write a story attacking a developer for the similar bad actions that they've attacked dozens of other developers for doing without igniting a harassment campaign against a woman because their audience was not like that, and they weren't...until they were.
So, being mindful of that, punchable face is not the best insult to use against anyone. Doug sucks so much at so many things, but his face has nothing to do with it.
holy crap, that was *brutal*. Elegantly brutal, at times. Dan's a very talented guy and I love his videos, this time's no exception.
The Wall scarred me since watching it when I was a teenager. I don't know if that's a "good" age to watch it, considering it's very dark and violent at times, with no qualms of showing different types of violence (sexual, military, fascistic) and you don't have your criteria "formed" at that point, you're still impressionable and you may have trouble discerning context of stuff you barely know about. So it left a very big, deep impression in my young mind, something like a gaping wound - the twisted scenes of violence and self-loathing, the symbolic horrors of war in display, the blunt trauma that shapes you as a kid.
I may have liked the imagery because the meaning behind the visuals kinda passed me by. In time I learned what it all meant. It seems Doug Walker didn't.
Goodbye Blue Sky was, indeed, one of the things that shook me the most. It's almost like a mural but in motion, an anti-war mural made animated, in all its terrifying glory. It stays with you. At least it has stayed with me all these years.
I remember a bunch of their videos had been (fan-)subtitled in Japanese and uploaded on Nico Nico DĹŤga, years back.
the wall was probably only about 10-15 years old when i first saw it. i was on a ride at a theme park. it was one of those graviton rides. in the middle were televisions playing music videos. most of these were suited more for younger teenagers, like weird al's 'smells like nirvana'. but they also had 'we don't need no education' play from 'the wall' and it scared me shitless. i wasn't even ten years old and it was impossible to process why the students had those creepy faces and were turning into meat - all while being stuck against an actual wall and actually unable to look away.
dan's video positions it in a way as something i should probably visit and might even enjoy.
This wasn't a takedown, this was a scalpel sharp postmortem dissection of one ignorant man. I'm struck by how Doug chose to criticize a work of such earnestness that only acted to reveal just how shallow the dude is.
Damn, that sure is a random and totally not scary way of first watching (part of) the movie. I can totally see why you as a kid would be scarred by that - quite the contrast from Weird Al to... *that*.
You haven't watched it since?
I'm pretty sure it's because his musical episodes get the most views by his own admission. The Wall allows his parody songs to be of some objectively good music that he can then sell/stream as well.That's really the thing. Why "The Wall," in 2019? Unless you're listening to a lot of classic rock radio (self callout here) that's not on your radar at all.
It's a neat piece of art for sure and important in the history of rock but that's not at all in Doug's wheelhouse or necessarily something that would generate a lot of clicks compared to him tackling something more contemporary.
That's really the thing. Why "The Wall," in 2019? Unless you're listening to a lot of classic rock radio (self callout here) that's not on your radar at all.
It's a neat piece of art for sure and important in the history of rock but that's not at all in Doug's wheelhouse or necessarily something that would generate a lot of clicks compared to him tackling something more contemporary.
I'm pretty sure it's because his musical episodes get the most views by his own admission. The Wall allows his parody songs to be of some objectively good music that he can then sell/stream as well.
So was Les Mis, didn't stop him.That makes sense. Still proved far too much for him to chew on.
Been enjoying Dan and his channel for a hot minute now. I think my intro to him was the Suicide Squad video where he's talking about their editing and slams a bottle of 'tussin before he starts at the beginning :-D immediate fan after that one.
And yea he fuckin vivisects NC in this, hard. Not that it was going to be tricky for someone with what I assume is some actual education and passion towards film and art to deconstruct and make fun of whatever the fuck that "review" was supposed to be.
Also that animation in his video from Fennah (?) is ... great? Like I understand style is subjective but like the rigging and lighting, syncing for lips and eyes and literally just about everything except the fur looks well, kind of shit?
And that fur is probably a module or add-in for Maya or something that he's just applying to so-so models that all kind of look the same?
Cringe is defo the right word.
Funny Enough his Les Mis review(based on the movie,) was a musical that had Linkara make a good point in song, let Kyle Kallgren sing a good point, and let Paw Dugan sing song that was a in joke about his wife.