He still has a large audience, with his latest video getting close to 300,000 reviews in less than a week.
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Folding Ideas: The Nostalgia Critic and The Wall
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He still has a large audience, with his latest video getting close to 300,000 reviews in less than a week.
Not sure why anyone would make a deep-dive video on an obscure "Fievel: American Tail" European shovelware game for PS2 either, but I thought Dan's video on that was pretty good too.
Dan explains his reasoning for this video pretty clearly: the contrast between the amount of effort put into making NC's The Wall contrasts starkly with the amount of thought put into it in a way that makes it a compelling and unusual conversation piece in a way that much of the rest of Doug's output does not. "The Neil Breen of Youtube reviewers" is a succinct way of putting it.
Bluth was actually scamming people to pay that Kickstarter so of course he was promoting. Of course unless I'm wrong and he actually made the pitch video which who knows at this point..lol
Yes because following the algorithm and doing what is necessary to make money is bad.
That's how youtube works. engagement length and deep dives sell if you don't like the content simply don't go into the topic just to whine and complain...
It's relevant because it was a big thing on YouTube not more than a year ago. And besides if you know the relationship he used to have with Channel Awesome you'd understand that there was a connection, but you know that would actually require clicking on the video...
For theose people that are curious, it's because Mashad(?) one of the co-owners actually let Folding Ideas go because of complaints about Dan doing a expose on 8chan
I remember that rather well.
Doug makes enough money to pay people to do skits, had some elaborate CG for the video, and presumably paid people to write the songs. His still successful his just not on top like he was 10 years ago.
Dan said that its because it was an obscure shovelware game made well over 20 years after the movie came out, and it is worth remembering it precisely because no one cared enough to put any real effort into it. The levels were a mismatch of minigames based on a property from the 80's and were too difficult for the target audience.
Well, almost every way... Sam Fennah's animations in it were great.
Going to echo the "Don't watch it" sentiment on the actual musical review itself. A bunch of us suffered through it for one reason or another, so you don't have to.
I still happily watch Linkara, Phelan, Todd, Brows Held High, Obscura, and Lindsay when they put out content. ...I THINK that Lost in Adaptation was part of that group near the end?
...I've met Doug, Angry Joe, and Linkara a few times. Linkara's genuinely a sweet guy with a spectacular mental catalogue of nerdy facts.
That pretty much everyone I still watch too except add Rap Critic and Diamanda Hagan.
I especially think Phelous has really become a better watch since he started focusing more on bootlegs and dingo, golden films and other bad ripoff animation studios.
Ah! Forgot Rap Critic! And yeah, the Phelous bootlegs are great. Those animals are sooooo stoooopeeeed.
Now we just need a critique of this critique of NC's critique of the movie, itself based on Pink Floyd's critical regard for critique of the self by the self and its societal sphere in mid-20th century Britain, and the circle will be half complete.
It was actually a positive comment as I enjoy well written, long form YouTube content and especially Folding Ideas. Merely a reflection on the weird state of the world of internet content.
WAIT WHAT IN THE HELL. I watched Folding Ideas and had no idea they got freaking FENNAH to do animations for the Wall review. That makes me so sad, Fennah's work deserves better.
What. Is. Happening.
Kenji is one of my favourite foodie YouTubers. This is like worlds colliding, and I love it.
....I don't know what episode of Binging with Babish this is going to inspire but now I'm deeply curious.
To be fair, dunking on the Nostalgia Critic is like shooting fish in a barrel, the guy has never had any talent or insight about anything.
I get sort of a weird alt-right feel from Doug's direction in this? Like some of this feels like a Ben Shapiro-style take down of a perceived leftist hypocrisy.
I always figured Doug was probably moderate in his politics, like the type who supports gay marriage and such issues, but doesn't challenge the status quo, but I wonder if he's going to double down and try to court the right.
Conservatives do seem to love having superficial surface level takes on media and getting upset when someone tries to put their politics into art. Professional conservative film critics are probably only slightly more competent than him.
I always figured Doug was probably moderate in his politics, like the type who supports gay marriage and such issues, but doesn't challenge the status quo, but I wonder if he's going to double down and try to court the right.
Conservatives do seem to love having superficial surface level takes on media and getting upset when someone tries to put their politics into art. Professional conservative film critics are probably only slightly more competent than him.
To each their own, but based on the clips seen in Folding Ideas' video, I think they're matched pretty well. The way the fur and ears constantly move like their underwater makes me think that someone used the default settings in maya's fur / soft body physics and called it a day.
In retrospect my favorite Doug Walker videos back in the day was when he tackled obvious shit films I'd never watch myself like Animated Titanic.
That's kind of his wheelhouse.
I know people compare the two a lot but the big difference to me with AVGN is that outside of his persona he actually seems to have a lot of knowledge and appreciation for classic gaming and old movies.
That's kind of his wheelhouse.
I know people compare the two a lot but the big difference to me with AVGN is that outside of his persona he actually seems to have a lot of knowledge and appreciation for classic gaming and old movies.
I swear people who worked with him describe him as a fence sitter but I could be wrong
I just checked this man's twitter and facebook accounts, and couldn't find this comment. It might be fake.What. Is. Happening.
Kenji is one of my favourite foodie YouTubers. This is like worlds colliding, and I love it.
Apparently he's been mocking BLM recently or so I saw on Twitter?
I never got a political vibe from anything he's ever done until now where this feels like weeeeird attacks on "SJW virtue signalers", except it's a band from fifty years ago.
I screencapped it myself. He posted the comment on Youtube, wish I guess is a thing they can do... But such comments only show up in some YouTube apps, not all of them.
Infamously I remember him video taping himself quitting in a super dramatic, childish fashion.
I mean I don't want to defend businesses over people but I think there's a way to quit without making it into an event.
I had no idea this was a thing lol.
Good video about a great album, great film, and infamous parody. Love Dan Olsen most of the time.
Interesting ideas in here about artistic expression in the post-war period contrasted with the internet-era, the nature of parody and criticism and how what you decide to parody / critique reflects just as much on you as it does the work. Also some nice breakdowns of the original films iconography and symbolism. NC seems to fall for the 'Seinfeld isn't funny' trope a lot.
Also calling Nostalgia Critic the Neil Breen of youtube is a top take.
Need to go back and rewatch The Wall, I remember enjoying it a lot last time I saw it.
Interesting ideas in here about artistic expression in the post-war period contrasted with the internet-era, the nature of parody and criticism and how what you decide to parody / critique reflects just as much on you as it does the work. Also some nice breakdowns of the original films iconography and symbolism. NC seems to fall for the 'Seinfeld isn't funny' trope a lot.
Also calling Nostalgia Critic the Neil Breen of youtube is a top take.
Need to go back and rewatch The Wall, I remember enjoying it a lot last time I saw it.
I got a good fucking laugh out of it even before the finger bangs came out.
So I finished the video and holy shit at the multiple brutal takedowns of Walker. I'm impressed that he could use such a garbage review to so effectively encapsulate so much that's great about The Wall, while also still finding the time to just totally dismantle a man.
We need Roger Waters to do it. And then we can get Gilmour to do a critique of that.
We need Roger Waters to do it. And then we can get Gilmour to do a critique of that.
well, the context is that the angry video game nerd predated doug walker's nostalgia critic by a couple years. walker really got started doing 5 second movies - which were little summations of films in around five seconds. nostalgia critic happened after that and followed the template established by the angry video game nerd / james rolfe. then he sorta road his coattails to success, with a couple crossover videos in the mid-late 00s that helped push walker's brand.
this was in the days of youtube, but before youtube was the thing. so walker was able to have his own website to gather content creators from all walks of the internet. over time, their craft evolved and grew. lindsay ellis is perhaps the most successful person to come from channel awesome (doug walker included), and largely due to her ability to adapt and change over time. hell, i still watch phelous and todd in the shadows.
dan olson/folding ideas was part of channel awesome too. and in the time he was there, he ran an expose on 8chan and how it was a den for pedophiles. the den of pedophiles complained to channel awesome that dan was the real pedophile, and channel awesome fired him. so there's history between dan and doug. but dan is also someone who's also grown and changed over the last decade.
Yeah, it's not fair. Dude got a TON of hate for the nostalgia critic video after it came out. Went and did a whole apology on twitter about feeling like a total hack because of what the actual review video turned out to be.
Eh. Of all the shitty, juvenile things that Doug Walker did that one I'm fine with. He was suddenly making enough money independently that he didn't need his shitty ass job anymore.
He was in his 20s and I wish I'd have that sort of moment when quiting.
We all imagine it but he did it.
Having said that, Doug Walker is an asshole and basically isn't good enough of a creator to change his format and still draw in fans. He likes to pretend because he doesn't deal with the business side of his work that makes his hands clean.
I agree, but given Dougs personality, it's atleast worth speculating whether the job/business was actually shitty or whether he was merely being petulant and dickish. Knowing the kind of person he is now, I wouldn't put it past him to have done that to a totally normal job out of either totally imagined grievances or else simply because he knew it would make for a popular internet video itself.
I cut Dan some slack for doing a full-on feature-length doc last year, lol
He had to have come up with the idea of doing a parody album first and then just randomly decided to use The Wall. I've never seen a review so completely disconnected from the source material in my life.
This is amazingWhat. Is. Happening.
Kenji is one of my favourite foodie YouTubers. This is like worlds colliding, and I love it.
I had no idea about any of this but HOLY shit Doug Walker is clown shoes. I've heard of the nostalgia critic but I've never watched a video.
thank god
like WOW.
thank god
like WOW.
I remember watching his older videos thinking "this would be better without the skits"
and then the videos started becoming 90% skits
and then the videos started becoming 90% skits