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Florida Supreme Court: Felons Must Pay Fines to Vote
- Thread starter Akainu
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I actually agree with this. Imo doing time in jail is only part of paying what is owed when I comes to certain crimes. I believe paying fines and restitutions are also part of the punishment for violent crimes. However, I know that most fines for petty and non violent crimes are nothing more than a money grab.
I wonder if over time the fees, fines, and restitution associated with Florida court cases would increase at a rate above the US average if such fees and fines are being used to deny the voting rights of people who may not vote for Republican political candidates.....
My state is a beautiful mess. We used to be on the cutting edge of environmental, planning and building policy. Now we've got weeks of sunny-day coastal flooding and a year-round poison alge problem, and idiots still denying climate change is a thing.
I beg you fellow Americans; stop sending your crankish family down here, we breed enough of these vicious rubes all on our own. Find another hole to drop your cultural detritus into.
I beg you fellow Americans; stop sending your crankish family down here, we breed enough of these vicious rubes all on our own. Find another hole to drop your cultural detritus into.
Just today I had my students researching Jim Crow laws. I asked them to find a date when they ended. made them sweat nearly the whole class trying to find dates before I stopped them and asked them why they thought they couldn't find a date.
then they all realized they never ended
then they all realized they never ended
If you aren't presently incarcerated, you should be able to vote.
And frankly I'm not even married to that caveat.
And frankly I'm not even married to that caveat.
You shouldn't lose your right to vote in the first fucking place. It's horseshit.
This bill didn't restore voting rights back to anyone with a murder or "sexual offenses" felony. Unfortunately the "sexual offenses" was not actually defined in the act, so the legislation (at least on first pass) took the broadest possible stroke of interpretation, "Nobody defined what "sexual offenses" meant, Grant said, so he included every felony sexual offense on the books, including prostitution and placing an adult entertainment store within 2,500 feet of a school."
Also it's a poll tax, so it doesn't really matter if you agree with it or not. It's unconstitutional.
GOP: It depends, do all these things predominately effect minorities? If yes? Then YES!
Jesus christ
They already served their sentence. They weren't making any money in prison and now the poor need to pay to vote too
Minorities, who are disproportionately targeted by state authorities for harassment and incarceration, will have less voting power.
Oh wait, you said positive.
So if I'm reading this right, this advisory ruling doesn't actually enact that part of the law? The article says a federal court already ruled in October that this is unconstitutional, so it's currently on hold and the state is just trying to use today's ruling as an argument in favor of it during the federal appeal.
An Update on this. Struck down by a federal appeals court as Unconstitutional. Could make it's way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
www.tampabay.com
Limits on Florida’s Amendment 4 are unconstitutional, federal panel rules
The ruling, which was expected, sets up a legal fight that could lead to the U.S. Supreme Court.
good.An Update on this. Struck down by a federal appeals court as Unconstitutional. Could make it's way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Limits on Florida’s Amendment 4 are unconstitutional, federal panel rules
The ruling, which was expected, sets up a legal fight that could lead to the U.S. Supreme Court.
An Update on this. Struck down by a federal appeals court as Unconstitutional. Could make it's way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Limits on Florida’s Amendment 4 are unconstitutional, federal panel rules
The ruling, which was expected, sets up a legal fight that could lead to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Good.
How if Florida still so conservative? There is a large amount of immigration to the state from the caribeans, the real conservative areas are up north. I know that Cuban immigrants tend to be much more conservative, so maybe its that plus all the old people?
Old people from all over the country move here to retire.
Oh trust me I know, I used o live in Sarasota, aka old people capital
A large number of snowbirds from up North move to Florida by the hundreds to thousands each month. On top of Cubans and many from the Caribbean being quite conservative. Combine that with the unreliability of young voting, and you can quickly see how that works out. Republicans have ran Florida for several decades.
Because large swathes of Florida are still fairly rural and conservative.
This is the 2018 Senate election. The blue cities are major cities. It's easy for the House and Senate to remain conservative with this map.
Because large swathes of Florida are still fairly rural and conservative.
This is the 2018 Senate election. The blue cities are major cities. It's easy for the House and Senate to remain conservative with this map.
Just imagine how different the world would be if the panhandle was part of Alabama like Alabama wanted for years.
How can they pay if they can't get a fricking job because of that record? Get the hell out of here.
The federal court didn't strike it down on that basis, it struck it down as an equal protection concern
This operates a lot like a poll tax, but it's a legal grey area because of what the Constitution does and doesn't say about voting rights (and specifically about states' abilities to decide who can vote).