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Florida GOP put up fake candidates with similar names to the D candidate in local races to split the vote
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So it's basically like how smaller companies ape movie blockbusters around the same time in an attempt to ride the hype?
Of course this happened in Florida. That should be illegal and force a new election.
Can't Florida just stop trying to be so "Florida" for once?
Can't Florida just stop trying to be so "Florida" for once?
Doesn't the ballet say what party affiliation the candidate is? Why would someone wanting to vote Democrat see 2 Rodriguez's and not vote for the one with "(D)" next to their name?
This is a shitty thing to do regardless. Just emphasizes (if my previous paragraph is correct) that you really have to do your research before getting out to vote.
This is a shitty thing to do regardless. Just emphasizes (if my previous paragraph is correct) that you really have to do your research before getting out to vote.
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To be honest I obviosuly don't know what happened between the two. But it is pretty obvious that a further candidate with similar name popped up to then do exactly zero active campaigning or anything else to be elected.
Assuming that those candidates are real people using their real names, I doubt this is illegal.
There should be a law called "If you don't want to play FAIR, you ain't playin' AT ALL!" in which any candidate/campaign team/members of the party that resorts to cheating/fraud INSTANTLY forfeit their place in the race, or if they've been elected, are immediately stripped of their position and suspended from attaining political office for X amount of years (IMO, maybe forever). Basically, you wanna play, you wanna be elected to a powerful, high position within our nation, be it having powe over state affairs or an impact of nationwide affairs, you're gonna have to do it STRAIGHT. You result to bullshit, your ASS IS GRASS!
That's just me, though. Republicans ain't gonna get penalized or shit for pulling this stunt.
That's just me, though. Republicans ain't gonna get penalized or shit for pulling this stunt.
So many people want to progress forward but these old rich redneck Republicans are manipulating and cheating this country so badly that we will never be able to fully move forward. :(
Spoiler alert: here's how that race turned out.
Brodeur defeats Sigman in tight Senate race as GOP maintains hold on Legislature
TALLAHASSEE – Florida Republicans still hold the reins in the Legislature after Democrats failed to flip seats in key races in Central and South Florida, according to unofficial vote totals r…
www.orlandosentinel.com
Let me tell you about a Dem analogue from this past cycle.
We have constables here in Texas, with their own mini fiefdoms that run parallel to the sheriffs.
One of our Houston constables apparently realized that his wife's cousins shared the name of his opponent and put him up to run in the dem primary as an attempt to split the vote. It didn't work, the voters selected the "right" guy with the name and the incumbent lost in the primary.
The name of the opponent (and cousin)? Jerry Garcia.
www.houstonchronicle.com
We have constables here in Texas, with their own mini fiefdoms that run parallel to the sheriffs.
One of our Houston constables apparently realized that his wife's cousins shared the name of his opponent and put him up to run in the dem primary as an attempt to split the vote. It didn't work, the voters selected the "right" guy with the name and the incumbent lost in the primary.
The name of the opponent (and cousin)? Jerry Garcia.
Jerry-rigged? Second Garcia withdraws from Harris County constable’s race but remains on ballot
Another man named Jerry Garcia running for the post says the turn of events is further...
www.houstonchronicle.com
To be more clear, precise have their own individual constitutions that define how the state government is organised. The vast majority of states have just copied the federal bicameral structure -- with a Senate plus an additional "lower" house --, but Nebraska did not. (They have a unicameral legislature instead. Members are called senators but the body itself is just called "the Nebraska Legislature".)
So yeah, almost every state has its own Senate. But I think it's important for non-Americans to understand that states have their own constitutions separate from the overall US Constitution. Sort of an "American Politics are Weirder Than You Thought" teachable moment.
It makes you wonder how many impactful tricks are done during the elections that fly completely under the radar
This guy fux
On a serious note, I see a lot of patting on the back for the democrats winning the presidential election. I understand why, but I think it is shortsighted since reform was on the ballot this year and was largely rejected by the electorate. There were some gains in terms of diversity of representation in some local and congressional contests, but I haven't seen much movement on reform issues like ranked choice voting, MFA, or the green new deal. I'm skeptical that the energy needed to vote out Trump can be harnessed for these much needed reforms.
I have a somewhat unique last name, or at least I thought I did. Teachers, especially subs, trying to pronounce it was comical (really annoying to a young kid).
I moved about an hour north, and I was shocked when I saw my last name... park. Then saw a congress sign. They are rebublican. I've often wondered if I could run against them, or any office, based on my name alone.
I moved about an hour north, and I was shocked when I saw my last name... park. Then saw a congress sign. They are rebublican. I've often wondered if I could run against them, or any office, based on my name alone.
It's actually kind of pathetic that this party will go to such extreme lengths to win. Like, some of the shit I've seen over the past week is just so sad and pathetic.
something similar to this happened in my small shockingly liberal florida town a few years ago. republicans paid a black republican to run as an "independent" and he never advertised anything about his political affiliation on his signage or during his campaign really. but he was able to peel a couple thousand votes off the dem candidate, so the slimeball main republican candidate managed to squeak by into the state house. republicans in this state are pure evil. though i guess that's true just about everywhere.
If you support liberalizing ballot access and making the viability of third parties/candidates possible, stuff like this is part of the deal. Of course it's scummy, but it's your job as a candidate/party to inform your voters who to vote for. Every cycle the two major parties make a flurry of legal challenges to legit parties (Greens, Libertarians) to keep them off the ballot so they don't "steal" votes, too. The onus is ultimately on your campaign to make sure people know how to identify you on the ballot.
In fact both things are true in Germany as well (each state has its own parliament and constitution), though luckily, we do not have this asinine winner takes it all voting system. I was just unsure whether "State Senate" referenced a state-specific parliament or whether it was a term for the national senate in the US.
definitely! a big part of the problem is that the florida democratic party is pretty dogshit top to bottom when it comes to messaging
And then Republicans would fabricate stuff to disqualify Dems. And refuse to drop out when caught. Who decides who's lying?
