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Kaitos

Tens across the board!
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Oct 25, 2017
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Wow, New Game + seemingly makes it really easy to recruit someone -- you can spend renown on supports you've already done, and you only need B supports to recruit people, right?
 

Anteo

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Oct 25, 2017
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With B supports there is also a chance each week that they will ask you to join your cmass
 

Quinton

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Oct 25, 2017
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Midgar, With Love
Just tossing this into the current conversation in case it hasn't already been covered: on the BE-C route you don't need to re-recruit anyone.
 

fuzzyset

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay, so no one can confirm that you can recruit her if you have NOT recruited her post-time skip then. :D

Edit: Don't look at me, I sure as hell won't recruit the chibi nuke any time I play this game.

Lysithea? I got her during the War phase of BE-E, and I barely talked to her pre-War. Don't remember who had the killing blow.
 

Dee Dee

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Nov 2, 2017
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Alright, now we're getting somewhere with some info. :D

If someone can confirm that Lorenz joins you post-time skip on Blue Lions, even if you didn't recruit him?
 

WolfeTone

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Oct 25, 2017
611
From what I understand, if you build supports but don't recruit pre-time skip, they are recruitable post-time skip.
For people who recruited but subsequently leave (outside or BE-E route), you should always be able to re-recruit.
 

Anteo

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Oct 25, 2017
4,099
What route did you do? I had him at B support with Byleth and couldn't recruit him post time skip in Golden Deer.

I was in golden deer. thats weird, unless he joined in the last week and i mashed and missed it somehow. I remember I was bummed out that I missed him because I specifically wanted to get him and other students and barely got the others
 

DiceyRobot

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm trying to recruit Caspar on the Blue Lions route, since many here had strongly recommended it for story purposes. However, it seems I'm stuck with him at C-support because "some time must pass before the bond can deepen". I'm guessing that message is referring to the time skip? But how am I supposed to recruit him before then? Will I have a chance afterwards?

EDIT: I'm on month 1 now, so I don't think I'll have much time left to boost up Caspar's brawl requirements on my Byleth.
 

Tfritz

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Oct 25, 2017
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perhaps a better gameplay decision would have been using the Talk command to recruit characters in part 2 rather than "kill them with byleth and maybe they'll join? idk?"

(esp given that the Talk command is used like three times in the entire game)
 

BizzyBum

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Oct 26, 2017
9,137
New York
Man, way to make Dedue's return a complete non-event. This game is so good yet so bad at the same time. lol
 

Fendoreo1

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Jan 1, 2019
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I'm trying to recruit Caspar on the Blue Lions route, since many here had strongly recommended it for story purposes. However, it seems I'm stuck with him at C-support because "some time must pass before the bond can deepen". I'm guessing that message is referring to the time skip? But how am I supposed to recruit him before then? Will I have a chance afterwards?

EDIT: I'm on month 1 now, so I don't think I'll have much time left to boost up Caspar's brawl requirements on my Byleth.
you have to get your brawling up to around C I think, there are like 3 brawling tutors, so if you do them every explore and use gauntlets in battle, you should get there
 

DiceyRobot

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Oct 26, 2017
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you have to get your brawling up to around C I think, there are like 3 brawling tutors, so if you do them every explore and use gauntlets in battle, you should get there
Ah okay, so it's possible to recruit him pre-skip then? I was concerned because it shows I have B-support conversation lined up with him, but it says time must pass before we can actually level up to B.

Usually when I get another house member to B-support status, they'll join if I ask or invite themselves randomly during the week.
 

babyzelda

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Oct 31, 2017
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Lysithea? I got her during the War phase of BE-E, and I barely talked to her pre-War. Don't remember who had the killing blow.

Oh yeah my first playthrough, I hadn't recruited her before the timeskip, but she joined in the war. We did have a perfect teatime, though. She likes talking about herself, iirc.
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ah okay, so it's possible to recruit him pre-skip then? I was concerned because it shows I have B-support conversation lined up with him, but it says time must pass before we can actually level up to B.

Usually when I get another house member to B-support status, they'll join if I ask or invite themselves randomly during the week.
You still have to meet the student's stat/skill requirements, but at B rank they're substantially lowered.
 

Fendoreo1

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Jan 1, 2019
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Ah okay, so it's possible to recruit him pre-skip then? I was concerned because it shows I have B-support conversation lined up with him, but it says time must pass before we can actually level up to B.

Usually when I get another house member to B-support status, they'll join if I ask or invite themselves randomly during the week.
yeah you just have to come up and talk to him to recruit him during one of your explore sessions, you can only try it once per session though, so be aware of that.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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PIT
About 30 hours in and I think I'm getting to *that point*. Really enjoying everything so far. First time I decided to go Blue Lions but if I replay I'll do Golden Deer.

Ashe is best boy and I want to marry him. That is all.
 

hypersheep325

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ah okay, so it's possible to recruit him pre-skip then? I was concerned because it shows I have B-support conversation lined up with him, but it says time must pass before we can actually level up to B.

Usually when I get another house member to B-support status, they'll join if I ask or invite themselves randomly during the week.
For Caspar and Ferdinand, you have to level up your skills to recruit them, as their B supports are locked until after the time-skip.
 

Zukkoyaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finished my first playthrough last night (Golden Deer). Great game! Easily my favorite FE since like... Radiant Dawn. But like others I do have nitpicks.

Personally thought the monastery stuff really started to drag and kill the pacing around the final third of the game. I got to a point in the story where all I wanted to do was just advance. Once supports among the house's main students were maxed out and I got everyone to the class I wanted, pretty much all desire to engage in that entire half of the game was gone. Map design and objective variety also weren't as interesting as older games which is a bummer for me.

Still thoroughly enjoyed it! I can see myself doing another run down the road.
 
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Bit_Reactor

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Apr 9, 2019
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I'm trying to recruit Caspar on the Blue Lions route, since many here had strongly recommended it for story purposes. However, it seems I'm stuck with him at C-support because "some time must pass before the bond can deepen". I'm guessing that message is referring to the time skip? But how am I supposed to recruit him before then? Will I have a chance afterwards?

EDIT: I'm on month 1 now, so I don't think I'll have much time left to boost up Caspar's brawl requirements on my Byleth.
Hm that's weird because I played Blue Lions and he was literally the second or third person I recruited. Hm. Brawling is pretty easy to level if you auto battle on the non point maps but other than that I'm not sure how I did that.
 

Bovine

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Oct 29, 2017
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I just finished chapter 12 and 13, the highlight for 12 was Dedue killing the Death Knight with one critical on the counter. Now I just want my boy back....
 

Ferrio

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Oct 25, 2017
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Finally about to hit the time skip I think. Turn of events was pretty predictable, was like unmasking a Scooby Doo villain. Oh youuuuuu, *finger wag*
 

Ravelle

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Oct 31, 2017
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I need some advise for Ch.18 To the end of a Dream (Black Eagles route/hard) because I feel like screaming in to a pillow.

My safest tactic is to take the left lane past Annette if I want nobody to die before I actually get to the The immaculate One, I do fine up until I get to the steps to the left of her, she smokes my characters the moment I am 4 squares away from her and I can only get one gambit in on with either Byleth or Edelgard because one of them is getting insta smoked, if it isn't for her it's from the army of pegasus knights swarming me.

Second is her Dragon-scale wall barrier, the moment I finally destroy her armor, it's just for one turn because she regains her armor, and everyone's pretty much already dead at that point.

What's the best way to get to her and to actually get break her armor because the gambits don't seem to work mostly and she shoots lasers at me before I can physically harm her.

I've been at this battle for like 3 days now.
 
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DiceyRobot

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Oct 26, 2017
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For Caspar and Ferdinand, you have to level up your skills to recruit them, as their B supports are locked until after the time-skip.

Gotcha. I might've screwed this up then, lol. Gonna try everything I can to up Byleth's brawling skills in whatever remaining time I have left, since apparently B-support won't be attainable until after skip.

It was hinted in this thread that Caspar has some Blue Lion story implications, so it was recommended that I recruit him. I just assumed all recruitment must be done before the skip though. Without being too spoilery, can anyone tell me whether it'd be possible to recruit Caspar post-skip, and if so, will that be in time to see his Blue Lion's story beats?
 

Morlas

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https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cswi2n/dimitri_has_no_chill/
found this on reddit lol
 

hypersheep325

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotcha. I might've screwed this up then, lol. Gonna try everything I can to up Byleth's brawling skills in whatever remaining time I have left, since apparently B-support won't be attainable until after skip.

It was hinted in this thread that Caspar has some Blue Lion story implications, so it was recommended that I recruit him. I just assumed all recruitment must be done before the skip though. Without being too spoilery, can anyone tell me whether it'd be possible to recruit Caspar post-skip, and if so, will that be in time to see his Blue Lion's story beats?
It is not possible to recruit Caspar post-skip.
 

skLaFarebear

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Oct 25, 2017
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I need some advise for Ch.18 To the end of a Dream (Black Eagles route/hard) because I feel like screaming in to a pillow.

My safest tactic is to take the left lane past Annette if I want nobody to die before I actually get to the The immaculate One, I do fine up until I get to the steps to the left of her, she smokes my characters the moment I am 4 squares away from her and I can only get one gambit in on with either Byleth or Edelgard because one of them is getting insta smoked, if it isn't for her it's from the army of pegasus knights swarming me.

Second is her Dragon-scale wall barrier, the moment I finally destroy her armor, it's just for one turn and everyone's pretty much already dead at that point.

What's the best way to get to her and to actually get break her armor because the gambits don't seem to work mostly and she shoots lasers at me before I can physically harm her.

I've been at this battle for like 3 days now.

You really wanna deal with the pegasus knight reinforcements before you approach the boss. I split my units to middle right/right and just largely ignored the left side. This way I was able to kill the reinforcements coming from the right in one turn as well as letting all the ones in the bottom come near me before I blew them up. A tip regarding approaching the boss:


Pegasus/Wyvern/Cavs should have no problem approaching Rhea from outside her attack zone in one turn. If Byleth and Edelgard are the only ones who can stand in her attack zone for a turn without dying, have both of them as well as any cav units/fliers approach after so they all reach her at the same time. Gambits absolutely work, especially if you use them with other allies around her as it increases accuracy/damage. Edelgard and anyone with a large damage radius for gambits like mages and archers should be able to make quick work of her entire zone before she gets another turn. Reminder that standing in the "green" squares that increase experience when you're connected online give exp as well as restoring gambit uses if you feel yourself running low on gambits.

If you can't land a gambit with her shield up, break one of them with normal attacks (windsweep so she can't counter is a good one for example) then use gambits on that square to start breaking the outer ones.
 

Tavernade

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Sep 18, 2018
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Woah, hold up, on the GD/BL routes you need to re-recruit everyone post timeskip? I was under the impression they'd just rejoin automatically after a chapter or two.
 

Ravelle

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Oct 31, 2017
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You really wanna deal with the pegasus knight reinforcements before you approach the boss. I split my units to middle right/right and just largely ignored the left side. This way I was able to kill the reinforcements coming from the right in one turn as well as letting all the ones in the bottom come near me before I blew them up. A tip regarding approaching the boss:


Pegasus/Wyvern/Cavs should have no problem approaching Rhea from outside her attack zone in one turn. If Byleth and Edelgard are the only ones who can stand in her attack zone for a turn without dying, have both of them as well as any cav units/fliers approach after so they all reach her at the same time. Gambits absolutely work, especially if you use them with other allies around her as it increases accuracy/damage. Edelgard and anyone with a large damage radius for gambits like mages and archers should be able to make quick work of her entire zone before she gets another turn. Reminder that standing in the "green" squares that increase experience when you're connected online give exp as well as restoring gambit uses if you feel yourself running low.

I have Edel and Byleth both on Blaze Gambits but it takes two of those and one other gambit to finally break its armor it seemed like, and my only cav is Ferdinantd but hasn't got anything that deals any significant damage to her sadly. For some reason when I gambit it only gets its attention and then the next turn she toasts the entire field where I stand.

It's weird too because the first or second time I fought her I got her down to her last health bar but now I can only get one red gem of her.
 

WolfeTone

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Oct 25, 2017
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I need some advise for Ch.18 To the end of a Dream (Black Eagles route/hard) because I feel like screaming in to a pillow.

I've been at this battle for like 3 days now.
BE-E chapter 18 map spoilers

I broke down barriers with units who could take a hit and then used bows, magic, high crit weapons to attack her once she's exposed. The boss can only attack one unit per turn outside of AOE which are a bit weaker (unless I'm forgetting something) and you should have at least a few units who can either tank the hit or dodge it with a high probability. Attack with flyers or mounted units and then canto back to a safe distance otherwise use your physics to heal people who are still in range. Use Divine Pulse as needed.

It's a time consuming map, I didn't feel safe approaching her until I had cleared out most of the enemy units, but I'm sure it's possible to rush her. Try to ensure you have a decent number of gambits left by the time you reach her.
 

skLaFarebear

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have Edel and Byleth both on Blaze Gambits but it takes two of those and one other gambit to finally break its armor it seemed like, and my only cav is Ferdinantd but hasn't got anything that deals any significant damage to her sadly. For some reason when I gambit it only gets its attention and then the next turn she toasts the entire field where I stand.

It's weird too because the first or second time I fought her I got her down to her last health bar but now I can only get one red gem of her.

You have to completely break her shield (all 9 squares) for her to not react with an aoe field. Her response attack is to damage the entire field around her iirc. I wouldn't recommend attacking her unless you know you can break her shield completely on that turn. Finding a way to get all your units in a position to do that in the same turn is 90% of the fight. Then just kill her on the next turn when her def is down.

you actually do have to re-recruit one person on BL

Lorenz

Ah, I never recruited that person so I didn't know, but considering what happens in BL that makes sense.
 

ABitAshamed

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Feb 10, 2019
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Guys, what do i miss if i dont do any of the activities of the monastery? I just want to play battle missions, do some support conversations and may ne know more about the lore/story...
The biggest miss is the character recruitment or there is more? I should focus on upgrading byleth to recruit the students i like ? I find annex activities boring as f****
 

WolfeTone

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Oct 25, 2017
611
Guys, what do i miss if i dont do any of the activities of the monastery? I just want to play battle missions, do some support conversations and may ne know more about the lore/story...
The biggest miss is the character recruitment or there is more? I should focus on upgrading byleth to recruit the students i like ? I find annex activities boring as f****

You'll miss opportunities to grind supports and increase your students' motivation for classes. You can still level up their skills, it'll just take longer. You'll also miss some item and weapon drops as well as an ability to spend renown on various stat boosts and other perks like exp+ and more divine pulses. Biggest mechanical loss might be lack of a chance to raise Byleth's skills which can make it hard to reclass.
 

Tochtli79

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Jun 27, 2019
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I need some advise for Ch.18 To the end of a Dream (Black Eagles route/hard) because I feel like screaming in to a pillow.

My safest tactic is to take the left lane past Annette if I want nobody to die before I actually get to the The immaculate One, I do fine up until I get to the steps to the left of her, she smokes my characters the moment I am 4 squares away from her and I can only get one gambit in on with either Byleth or Edelgard because one of them is getting insta smoked, if it isn't for her it's from the army of pegasus knights swarming me.

Second is her Dragon-scale wall barrier, the moment I finally destroy her armor, it's just for one turn because she regains her armor, and everyone's pretty much already dead at that point.

What's the best way to get to her and to actually get break her armor because the gambits don't seem to work mostly and she shoots lasers at me before I can physically harm her.

I've been at this battle for like 3 days now.

What I did is

Went up the middle with everyone and held out until the reinforcements stopped, also lured Catherine and Annette over to the stairs instead of going after them. After it was safe I continued up to the top level and then baited Cyril. With Rhea I just used Gambits win my strongest units, keeping healers and weaker characters out of her range. I focused only on her three frontal shields and never really had to worry about taking too much damage. My main force against Rhea was Edelgard, Byleth, Caspar, and Sylvain. Got her in two turns I think? Alternating between Gambits and pure damage. Maybe you're not using good Gambits or focusing too much on her shields?
 

DiceyRobot

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Oct 26, 2017
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Guys, what do i miss if i dont do any of the activities of the monastery? I just want to play battle missions, do some support conversations and may ne know more about the lore/story...
The biggest miss is the character recruitment or there is more? I should focus on upgrading byleth to recruit the students i like ? I find annex activities boring as f****

I'm trying to recruit as many people as I can because it's fun to me, but honestly, it hasn't been very essential to progressing through the game thus far (even on hard/classic). All the members in my Blue Lions house are viable units, with most of them being juggernauts. If you use all your house's characters, you'll still have an empty slot on your team since most battles allow up to 10 units. Some teachers eventually join up with you without even much trying on your part, one of which is fairly strong in her own right. I wouldn't worry about recruiting from other houses if that's not really appealing to you.

As for the other stuff, you can develop your weapon proficiencies easily enough via battles. You can just let the computer auto-instruct for you if you don't wanna deal with that stuff.