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Fire Emblem Three Houses DLC is 8-10 hours long
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It does have an ending no?
I remember having a clear ending with her when i romanced her and chosed the church over edelgard.
Yeah I know about that character, I bought the season pass day one, I meant more like bringing back some of the classes from older games, because right now I usually end up with a handful of gremories, a couple bow knight, and a wyvern Lord. Like even when you specifically avoid having multiples of the same class it's hard to build a team with no repeats.
I consider Golden Deer the Golden Route. Of course some characters die, but it is the closest to a nice ending for most in my opinion.
I think they should have had more master classes, I agree. Although the Advanced Classes are meant to be viable late-endgame too. I know I usually kept at least one Fortress Knight around.
Yeah, season pass definitely hasn't been the greatest value for how much it cost
.....da fuck is this?
The shade is real, lmao.
Teeeeeeeechnically.....
.....da fuck is this?
The shade is real, lmao.
Teeeeeeeechnically.....
Having an S-rank with Rhea means she lives, at least in Verdant Winds route after sacrificing herself to stop the ICBMs- but you're right in that it doesn't change the story up significantly, IIRC
I mean, can you marry Rhea? I didn't think that was possible, given what happens to her, but I don't remember. It would be nice if having tea times and all that made it possible to marry her.
I usually enjoy these kind of hot takes but this seems way off-base.
Oh shit, I hadn't realized that. I guess I know which ending I'm aiming for next.
One of the first things we see with the Church is that Jeralt accepts going back to it because he sees no point in trying to hide from what he calls a ridiculously massive organization. This isn't even a spoiler, it happens in the first few chapters.
They also have enough influence over the Kingdom that they can execute one of their lords and many of their captured soldiers without a trial. Even if the Church's own army isn't that large, the Kingdom is more than happy to fight by their side.
Every nation is shown to turn to the Church to some degree, even the Empire despite the Church's influence in starting the war to split it and the Kingdom, something that is very strange unless the Church is still a fairly strong organization overall. It makes a lot more sense to me that the Church's influence across the continent could keep both the Kingdom, and a significant portion of the alliance in a stalemate vs the Empire with how it is presented in part 1, than them suddenly being forced on the defensive.
They also have enough influence over the Kingdom that they can execute one of their lords and many of their captured soldiers without a trial. Even if the Church's own army isn't that large, the Kingdom is more than happy to fight by their side.
Every nation is shown to turn to the Church to some degree, even the Empire despite the Church's influence in starting the war to split it and the Kingdom, something that is very strange unless the Church is still a fairly strong organization overall. It makes a lot more sense to me that the Church's influence across the continent could keep both the Kingdom, and a significant portion of the alliance in a stalemate vs the Empire with how it is presented in part 1, than them suddenly being forced on the defensive.
Yes, yes you can.
You need to choose her route in the second part of the game, if not, you cant S rank her.
I did Silver Snow and I liked it. Though I would probably have chosen Golden Deer if I knew what was gonna happen with Edelgard.
So I basically made all the students from other classes join me and then told edelgard to fuck off with her phycho plans as she was adamant of not redeeming herself.
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I don't write fanfiction.
I don't write anything.
And I stan Ravenclaw dammit.
What if there's an option to end it by throwing the pot of tea in her face?
Jeralt is a single man. Not an army. Even if you count his mercenaries, he's a small mercenary group, not an army. That is literally the exact kind of mission the Knights of Seiros handle. And he says nothing about a "massive organization."
Because that lord literally raised a small army to attack the Church. Moreover your argument was that the Church being weak is inconsistent, what does their ability to call on aid from the Kingdom have to do with that? That's soft power that no one is arguing they don't have. They're completely routed in every route except Crimson Flower because ecery route is consistent with one another except Crimson Flower.
You have clearly forgotten where this whole discussion started (you saying that characterization is inconsistent across every route and me pointing out that no, it's only inconsistent in one route) because now you're arguing something completely different. Something that is also entirely unsupported by any route except Crimson Flower (and even then only supported in the sense that Edelgard says it). So I get the sneaking suspicion you've actually only played the one route.
Because that lord literally raised a small army to attack the Church. Moreover your argument was that the Church being weak is inconsistent, what does their ability to call on aid from the Kingdom have to do with that? That's soft power that no one is arguing they don't have. They're completely routed in every route except Crimson Flower because ecery route is consistent with one another except Crimson Flower.
You have clearly forgotten where this whole discussion started (you saying that characterization is inconsistent across every route and me pointing out that no, it's only inconsistent in one route) because now you're arguing something completely different. Something that is also entirely unsupported by any route except Crimson Flower (and even then only supported in the sense that Edelgard says it). So I get the sneaking suspicion you've actually only played the one route.
Jeralt does call the church a massive organization, again it's one of the first things he says about it.
I can accept that taking out Lord Lanato was just part of the mission they were brought in for(though i think it says a lot that the Church would be trusted to handle a rogue lord instead of the Kingdom), but no nation is letting an independent organization take their own citizens as prisoners of war out of their territory and executing them without that organization having significant power over them.
The Church influencing the war that created the Kingdom is not only supported by Edelgard, books in their own library point out that the foundation of the Kingdom was something the Church had a hand in.
But even if that wasn't true, the leaders of the Empire believe it, they sure as hell wouldn't keep playing along with the Church for a few hundred years if there wasn't influential enough to make going against it a bad idea.
I can accept that taking out Lord Lanato was just part of the mission they were brought in for(though i think it says a lot that the Church would be trusted to handle a rogue lord instead of the Kingdom), but no nation is letting an independent organization take their own citizens as prisoners of war out of their territory and executing them without that organization having significant power over them.
The Church influencing the war that created the Kingdom is not only supported by Edelgard, books in their own library point out that the foundation of the Kingdom was something the Church had a hand in.
But even if that wasn't true, the leaders of the Empire believe it, they sure as hell wouldn't keep playing along with the Church for a few hundred years if there wasn't influential enough to make going against it a bad idea.
I dont know why anyone would trust edelgard words any more than the church really. Both clearly bend the truth whenever they need it, we even see Edelgard doing that in CF.
iirc, the church were responsible for creating the kingdom, but that was because they were there on the peace talks, not that they started the rebelion that tore the empire in two, Edelgard claiming "they divided the empire to create a kingdom, and divided a kingdom to create an alliance" is either straigh up lying to her troops or just the royal family still being salty about losing the territory and blaming the church for the end result.
iirc, the church were responsible for creating the kingdom, but that was because they were there on the peace talks, not that they started the rebelion that tore the empire in two, Edelgard claiming "they divided the empire to create a kingdom, and divided a kingdom to create an alliance" is either straigh up lying to her troops or just the royal family still being salty about losing the territory and blaming the church for the end result.
To be fair, I agree that it's hard to say how much impact the Church had in the creation of the Kingdom. But feel it's not just a lie.
Claims of the Church being a major factor in that are never disproved, and the Kingdom gets the full name of "Holy Kingdom of Faerghus" which certainly suggests that it's the Church's favorite. What we do know is that the Church's power was waning before that war and that the Empire wanted it gone, not in a good position to have a hand in peace talks, and afterwards it becomes the neutral between the two and seemingly regains influence.
The Church having a hand in that conflict is far from unreasonable, and the only comment on the subject says as much. But yes it is a bit of a grey area since we never see it. At the very least I doubt Edelgard thinks it's a lie because she keeps Byleth in the loop in situations like that post timeskip.
Claims of the Church being a major factor in that are never disproved, and the Kingdom gets the full name of "Holy Kingdom of Faerghus" which certainly suggests that it's the Church's favorite. What we do know is that the Church's power was waning before that war and that the Empire wanted it gone, not in a good position to have a hand in peace talks, and afterwards it becomes the neutral between the two and seemingly regains influence.
The Church having a hand in that conflict is far from unreasonable, and the only comment on the subject says as much. But yes it is a bit of a grey area since we never see it. At the very least I doubt Edelgard thinks it's a lie because she keeps Byleth in the loop in situations like that post timeskip.
These are not things we know. The Church's bad blood with the Empire didn't start until after brokering a peace that founded the Kingdom. And starting a war on the continent runs counter to everything that motivates Rhea. Peace by any means, even deifying her enemies or letting systems she disagrees with stay in place, because war is too costly.
I think you could sum up the game plot as
The game likes that alot, it allows it to have enough information for the players to pick a side but not enough to clearly say which is more correct or not. That is also one of the reasons why i think a prequel would not work, too many answers, it would make it clear who is right or wrong and that would invalidate at least one route.
I love that it's not clear that one route is "right" or "wrong". I've seen people call certain characters fascists, and others say said same characters were in the right and did nothing wrong. (you probably know which character I am talking about, but I won't say their name outside of spoilers)
In Fates there was basically no real reason to side with Nohr other than that game being the better game.
You might have to restart if you want to use the new characters in your main game if you are too far into that route, but the dlc story itself is separate.
Yes but then
if you marry one of the royals of the hoshido side they reveal you are actually not connected by blood which means you betrayed the family that raised you for... nothing?
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You can pretty definitively say
Edelgard isn't a fascist. Her campaign doesn't have a basis in nationalism. She's got a bit of an authoritarian streak, but I don't think there's any basis upon which to make the argument she's fascist.
Well I mean (and this is stuff that literally all happens within the first couple of hours in the game) your "father" is basically king Ganondorf and tries to have you executed multiple times, so I hardly see an issue with betraying him.
I've seen Edelgard called a fascist, and yeah I agree she isn't a fascist. I've also seen Rhea called a fascist, which I think there's a case for.
I think that is equally ridiculous, if not moreso. She not only lacks the nationalism, but she isn't even authoritarian (which is a defining characteristic of facism). Fodlan doesn't operate under a strong centralized government. Hell she doesn't even suppress political opposition outside of three literal attempts to assassinate her. By what metric would you say there is an argumen?
I wouldn't say Rhea's goal is peac, she just wants things stable enough to keep doing he human experiments.
Yeah, the game doesn't outright say a lot of things, and that does lead to the players having to make their own conclusions.
I don't think that's a bad thing, but it does also lead to players having biases towards events in certain routes.
Everyone is flawed. Edelgard starts a bloody conquest in hopes of fixing the mess the continent is in, Claude is planning to start a bloody conquest in hopes of fixing the mess the continent is in, Demitri will want to invade the Empire once he learns TWSITD are there and won't care who gets caught in it, and Rhea wants to continue trying to make the perfect human sacrifice to revive her mother and may or may not have had a hand in instigating wars to keep the church with enough power to let her get away with it.
It's fascinating, but makes conversations a mess when people have their favorites, haha.
It's fascinating, but makes conversations a mess when people have their favorites, haha.
Calling any character i
Honestly, calling anyone a fascist in a world that is largely derived from different types of European feudalism seems inappropriate, and missing the point.
Honestly, calling anyone a fascist in a world that is largely derived from different types of European feudalism seems inappropriate, and missing the point.
I was guessing before, but now I'm asking. Seriously, have you played any route other than Crimson Flower?
How in the world did you come to the conclusion that the church is against the system of nobility that it founded and upheld for over a thousand years? We even see Rhea insist on keeping what happened to Miklan a secret explicitly to protect the reputation of the nobility.
Remember all that "heretics must be executed!" stuff from the first half of the game?
Because the school she runs actively discourages separation by class.
Because the religion she invented chastises those with crests for creating this system of nobility.
Literally every time the nobility is addressed by the church it is negatively. The only person who thinks the church created the nobility intentionally is Edelgard who blames the church for literally everything.
Because the religion she invented chastises those with crests for creating this system of nobility.
Literally every time the nobility is addressed by the church it is negatively. The only person who thinks the church created the nobility intentionally is Edelgard who blames the church for literally everything.
Right? I tried doing Blue Lions but man, I miss Claude and all of my dear GD students. :(
I'll probably pick it back up after the DLC release. Only did a couple chapters.
Yes, the heretics in question being the people who have tried and failed to assassinate her twice by that point and three times before you even get to the time skip. As for regular non-believers, maybe spend some time talking to Cyril to find out what her views are there.
Iiirc the churchs teachings are also a bit xenohobic and keep Fodlan away from relations outside the continent. And Rheas entire goal is keeping the status quo as it is and keeping power. The relationship between the church and the nobility/crest system is a feedback loop that excludes the people. The church gives nobles power and legitimacy through lies they tell people, and the nobles support the church and keep it in power. Anyone who deviates is executed. Though in practice she is not that fascist ideologically, you only really see her bend all the way that way in CF.
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Sorry for the question, but how do I make the DLC work? I've beaten the game but since the DLC is prior to the time jump, do I need to restart the game?
Lonato literally ambushed the students and tried to kill them!
What was Rhea supposed to do? A fair trial for people who also tried to assassinate her?
What was Rhea supposed to do? A fair trial for people who also tried to assassinate her?